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Kachon probably thinks Queen > Zoro, too.
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One Piece General Discussion: Egghead
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Why do we have Hawkins' Goma no So as equal to Killer when Killer eviscerated it while wounded.
DaMonkeMan
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It was stated to be equal to him, but the fact he beat it pretty easily does counter that.
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Piercing damage or whatever
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Yeah. If a statement is directly contradicted, why are we using it?
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You're underestimating Mihawk if you think it takes just that for Zoro to win.
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Well of course Zoro needs to get stronger overall, but AP and speed isn't really the issue if he wants to fight the god tiers (Yonko level dudes) since he already has the AP to harm them (although he definitely needs better dura), it's the Haki stamina that's the main problem, and once he overcomes that then that's whenever I think things will fall into place for him and he'll begin truly being top tier. Unless Mihawk is significantly above Kaido, then I don't think the AP gap is that tremendous to overcome.
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Also, you're putting words in my mouth, I said compete with, not defeat.
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You make a really good point. Now that I think about it, we scale XDrake to scabbard level and even above Jack (check his profile).
So it seems like a double standard to scale XDrake to H6A but not the other Tobi Roppo simply due to Jack's statement which should technically apply to XDrake as well.
This clearly shows that Jack probably doesn't know the true power of the toppi roppo and was simply making assumptions based off his own strength.
I also agree with the idea that pre 1010 base-gear 3 Luffy should be H6A since he's capable of reacting to and eating attacks from other H6A characters
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DaMonkeMan
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Drake is a new recruit iirc. he also was a spy or somn iirc.
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Still there's evidence to suggest he's also wrong about the other toppi roppo so his statement is not to be trusted.
DaMonkeMan
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True, but it's clear Drake is stronger than the rest and they were worried he could become an All Star.
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This.
Even Sasaki, an arrogant asswipe who legit thought he could throw hands with an All-Star (likely Jack), openly said he was relieved that X Drake wasn't in the running for All-Star.
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IMO it would be more interesting to wait & see what else Kizaru can do in Eggheand 1st.
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Enjoy waiting an eternity for the colored scans
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Maybe, maybe not. There's many interpretations one could make of Sasaki's statement.
Regardless, the point is that Jack's statement is not concrete and is not a valid reason to call the Flying six's H6A feats/scaling outliers.
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Relieved doesn't mean he thinks XDrake is stronger than him.
It can simply mean that he's relieved to not have to compete against a strong opponent.
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It says so on his Vivre Card, plus they were stalemating each other in the manga from Ch. 1011-1022.
That wasn't what Killer eviscerated, it was Hawkins's Straw Man that Zoro fought in early Wano.
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Maria's feat was against a restrained Sanji who wasn't trying very hard.
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Drake actually has the feats:
- Repeatedly matched Apoo (and harmed him), both in Base and Zoan
- Put up somewhat of a fight against Guernica and hurt him, but still lost
- In Base, blocked an attack from Base Yamato (but was still eventually overpowered)
- In Base, clashed with an angered Base Zoro
- His Zoan form took hits from Apoo's DF off-screen.
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Still H6A durability
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Why is damaging a H6A character not considered a good enough feat for BM?
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If Jack thought the Tobiroppo could help him, he probably would have told them to come.
He had no issue bringing goons to the roof to fight the Scabbards.
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following this thought process Xdrake cant help fight injured scabbards even though he scales above them at full power.
The problem is Jack is not a credible source, his opinion is shown to be false
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Or maybe a bad mindstate can mess with stats
I thought he brought the goons to fight the random sulong minks on the roof
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If thats not gonna happen its ok, I still want to go through the reasons why they should be
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I am curious as to how that's going, since all the 6-A stuff was rejected, as were all the cloud calcs.
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Ulti:
-Luffy thought he needed G4 to beat her
-Matched Luffy in base, when he should be far stronger than he was pre Udon.
->Page One
-Reacted to an FTL Luffy
-Got up after a hit from Big Mom, albeit she was unconscious for a while
Page One:
-Fought Wano Country Raid Suit Sanji, who should not be overwhelmingly weaker than his Onigashima Raid base form.
Black Maria:
-Pummeled a restrained Sanji, who should be almost comparable to a casual Sanji.
-> Page One
Sasaki:
-Magnumiceratops > Heliceratops > Tamaceratops > Zoan Forms > Page One
Who's Who:
-Was the first foe to make Jinbe fight seriously since Akainu, though serious Jinbe annihilated him. Jinbe notably was holding back against Fishman Island Luffy, considering my man thought of himself beating Hody Jones as a guarantee, and possibly not even a slight inconvenience. Katakuri antifeats are a bit wonky because of Future Sight.
-Superior to Page One
-Luffy thought he needed G4 to beat her
-Matched Luffy in base, when he should be far stronger than he was pre Udon.
->Page One
-Reacted to an FTL Luffy
-Got up after a hit from Big Mom, albeit she was unconscious for a while
Page One:
-Fought Wano Country Raid Suit Sanji, who should not be overwhelmingly weaker than his Onigashima Raid base form.
Black Maria:
-Pummeled a restrained Sanji, who should be almost comparable to a casual Sanji.
-> Page One
Sasaki:
-Magnumiceratops > Heliceratops > Tamaceratops > Zoan Forms > Page One
Who's Who:
-Was the first foe to make Jinbe fight seriously since Akainu, though serious Jinbe annihilated him. Jinbe notably was holding back against Fishman Island Luffy, considering my man thought of himself beating Hody Jones as a guarantee, and possibly not even a slight inconvenience. Katakuri antifeats are a bit wonky because of Future Sight.
-Superior to Page One
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Ayo, Jack goons > Tobiroppo?
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Ayo, BM<WW?
