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One Piece General Discussion: Egghead

Tetsucabrah said:
You're underestimating Mihawk if you think it takes just that for Zoro to win.
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Well of course Zoro needs to get stronger overall, but AP and speed isn't really the issue if he wants to fight the god tiers (Yonko level dudes) since he already has the AP to harm them (although he definitely needs better dura), it's the Haki stamina that's the main problem, and once he overcomes that then that's whenever I think things will fall into place for him and he'll begin truly being top tier. Unless Mihawk is significantly above Kaido, then I don't think the AP gap is that tremendous to overcome.
 
SlendVeny said:
, Onigashima Hawkins > Scabbards > Hybrid Tobiroppo > Pre-Onigashima Hawkins < Base Wano Zoro < Onigashima Zoro.

Sanji got a massive upscale, but no one else is treated as being any different between then and Onigashima. Same with Luffy.

Hell, doesn't Base X Drake have clashing with Base Zoro as a feat?

I don't want them all to scale to like, high Scabbard-tier values, I just think they should be up there somewhere, or be vaguely relative. I also find Onigashima Luffy being as low as he is to be absurd.
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You make a really good point. Now that I think about it, we scale XDrake to scabbard level and even above Jack (check his profile).
So it seems like a double standard to scale XDrake to H6A but not the other Tobi Roppo simply due to Jack's statement which should technically apply to XDrake as well.

This clearly shows that Jack probably doesn't know the true power of the toppi roppo and was simply making assumptions based off his own strength.

I also agree with the idea that pre 1010 base-gear 3 Luffy should be H6A since he's capable of reacting to and eating attacks from other H6A characters
 
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If we can count XDrake clashing with zoro as a feat then we should also count Black maria harming sanji as a feat too. They are both toppi roppo so why is one considered valid and the other an outlier?
 
Also iirc XDrake has been part of the crew for 2 years by the time of wano, so Jack had more than enough time to assess his strength.
 
The difference is that X Drake had left when Jack made that statement about the Tobiroppo, plus he actually has the feats to show that he is that level
 
TheMonkeMan said:
True, but it's clear Drake is stronger than the rest and they were worried he could become an All Star.
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This.

Even Sasaki, an arrogant asswipe who legit thought he could throw hands with an All-Star (likely Jack), openly said he was relieved that X Drake wasn't in the running for All-Star.
 
Fireld said:
Enjoy waiting an eternity for the colored scans:devilish:
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TheMonkeMan said:
True, but it's clear Drake is stronger than the rest and they were worried he could become an All Star.
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Maybe, maybe not. There's many interpretations one could make of Sasaki's statement.
Regardless, the point is that Jack's statement is not concrete and is not a valid reason to call the Flying six's H6A feats/scaling outliers.
 
Eseseso said:
This.

Even Sasaki, an arrogant asswipe who legit thought he could throw hands with an All-Star (likely Jack), openly said he was relieved that X Drake wasn't in the running for All-Star.
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Relieved doesn't mean he thinks XDrake is stronger than him.
It can simply mean that he's relieved to not have to compete against a strong opponent.
 
Tetsucabrah said:
Why do we have Hawkins' Goma no So as equal to Killer when Killer eviscerated it while wounded.
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It says so on his Vivre Card, plus they were stalemating each other in the manga from Ch. 1011-1022.

That wasn't what Killer eviscerated, it was Hawkins's Straw Man that Zoro fought in early Wano.
 
Drake actually has the feats:

  • Repeatedly matched Apoo (and harmed him), both in Base and Zoan
  • Put up somewhat of a fight against Guernica and hurt him, but still lost
  • In Base, blocked an attack from Base Yamato (but was still eventually overpowered)
  • In Base, clashed with an angered Base Zoro
  • His Zoan form took hits from Apoo's DF off-screen.
 
Eseseso said:
Drake actually has the feats:

  • Repeatedly matched Apoo (and harmed him), both in Base and Zoan
  • Put up somewhat of a fight against Guernica and hurt him, but still lost
  • In Base, blocked an attack from Base Yamato (but was still eventually overpowered)
  • In Base, clashed with an angered Base Zoro
  • His Zoan form took hits from Apoo's DF off-screen.
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Why is damaging a H6A character not considered a good enough feat for BM?
 
ZKillerz said:
But your only reasoning for it being an outlier is based off an untrustworthy statement
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If Jack thought the Tobiroppo could help him, he probably would have told them to come.

He had no issue bringing goons to the roof to fight the Scabbards.
 
Eseseso said:
If Jack thought the Tobiroppo could help him, he probably would have told them to come.

He had no issue bringing goons to the roof to fight the Scabbards.
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following this thought process Xdrake cant help fight injured scabbards even though he scales above them at full power.

The problem is Jack is not a credible source, his opinion is shown to be false
 
@ZKillerz We're not going to make the Tobi Roppo High 6-A.

Thhe High 6-A ratings are going to go away anyway once some behind-the-scenes stuff gets resolved with the calcs.
 
Ulti:
-Luffy thought he needed G4 to beat her
-Matched Luffy in base, when he should be far stronger than he was pre Udon.
->Page One
-Reacted to an FTL Luffy
-Got up after a hit from Big Mom, albeit she was unconscious for a while

Page One:
-Fought Wano Country Raid Suit Sanji, who should not be overwhelmingly weaker than his Onigashima Raid base form.

Black Maria:
-Pummeled a restrained Sanji, who should be almost comparable to a casual Sanji.
-> Page One

Sasaki:
-Magnumiceratops > Heliceratops > Tamaceratops > Zoan Forms > Page One

Who's Who:
-Was the first foe to make Jinbe fight seriously since Akainu, though serious Jinbe annihilated him. Jinbe notably was holding back against Fishman Island Luffy, considering my man thought of himself beating Hody Jones as a guarantee, and possibly not even a slight inconvenience. Katakuri antifeats are a bit wonky because of Future Sight.
-Superior to Page One
 
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