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Crocodile 7-A its from scaling to Marineford Luffy, we never treat him to be as strong as Doffy.This also happened in Alabasta, Luffy was not supposed to beat Crocodile, he is shown to be comparable to Doffy and even some other top tiers who are 7-A.
Boundman's durability was never treated as equal to his compressed attacks, so I doubt it.Does G4 Luffy's durability scale to his compression of 90 gigatons or only to his string-snapping 45 gigatons since I'm not sure if his compression is related to his durability.
That's exactly what I was thinking after looking at and think about the way Luffy's body has tanked attacks.Boundman's durability was never treated as equal to his compressed attacks, so I doubt it.
The 45 gigatons is safer since it's all his regular body motion creating that force.
About that. Shouldn't Doffy's durability scale to Leo Bazooka? He did tank it head on and continued fighting with awakening after.
- Leo Bazooka: 181.25 Gigatons (High 6-C) due to it using 2 arms
- Doflamingo w/buso downscales from Gear 4th's AP: 52.15 Gigatons (6-C+)
I mean, as long as Doffy's AP is still only 6-C+ I don't see a problem with that.About that. Shouldn't Doffy's durability scale to Leo Bazooka? He did tank it head on and continued fighting with awakening after.
Though this does mean G4 Luffy's own dura would upscale from Doffy's-
If that's the case Doffy shouldn't backscale to 6-C+ as his awakening attacks weren't able to harm Boundman at allBoundman's durability was never treated as equal to his compressed attacks, so I doubt it.
The 45 gigatons is safer since it's all his regular body motion creating that force.
Agreed.If that's the case Doffy shouldn't backscale to 6-C+ as his awakening attacks weren't able to harm Boundman at all
I haven't seen the entire film yet, but so far two potentially relevant statements that I've seen concerning his power are here and here.Didn't Shiki said he negates the gravitational pull of the object he touches and have full control over them? Or is this a mistranslation? If negating is the case I probably go for option B for now since potential energy is meaningless if there is no gravity to counter.
Or maybe since Luffy snapped the 9 strings very easily we can just scale Boundman Luffy's durability to 6-C+, although I guess that Doffy would still not downscale to 6-C+ since as you said he didn't harm Boundman at all.If that's the case Doffy shouldn't backscale to 6-C+ as his awakening attacks weren't able to harm Boundman at all
I'm not quite sure but I think that justification could be changing as the Parasito string G4 Luffy broke aren't the same thickness as the Birdcage ones which the calc scales too.Or maybe since Luffy snapped the 9 strings very easily we can just scale Boundman Luffy's durability to 6-C+
His durability should.If that's the case Doffy shouldn't backscale to 6-C+ as his awakening attacks weren't able to harm Boundman at all
If his durability scales then Law's AP scales and thus Doffy's AP scales based on the justifications.His durability should.
When did Law break Doffy's durability with Buso?If his durability scales then Law's AP scales and thus Doffy's AP scales based on the justifications.
"Doflamingo bled when he caught his sword's attack while he was using Haki to defend himself"When did Law break Doffy's durability with Buso?
We might need to add some references to this, I don't remember him doing that and only hurting Doffy with dura neg"Doflamingo bled when he caught his sword's attack while he was using Haki to defend himself"
When did Law break Doffy's durability with Buso?
Chapter 768, he didn't use any durability negation it was a sword strike.We might need to add some references to this, I don't remember him doing that and only hurting Doffy with dura neg
Literally's been right there the whole time@GodlyCharmander You forgot Shiki's Zanpa.
Clearer image:Chapter 768, he didn't use any durability negation it was a sword strike.
I'm sorry but why are the Vinsmokes only high 7-A?Well, I think we got a very reasonable amount of users and staff approval, let me do the scaling then.
6-A
6-C
- Every God Tier
High 7-A
- 90.62 Gigatons: G4 Luffy's double-handed attacks.
- 45.31 Gigatons: Luffy G4, Charlotte Katakuri, Charlotte Cracker, Charlotte Smoothie
- 20.12 Gigatons: Luffy G3rd Attacks, Doflamingo, Bartholomeo's Bari Bari durability, Law, Kid, Hawkins, Roronoa Zoro (Santoryu), Pica, Vergo, Vinsmoke Sanji, Charlotte Daifuku, Charlotte Oven, Bege, Perospero's candy durability, Sulong Carrot, Sulong Wanda, Overdosed Hyouzou's Durability, Scratchmen Apoo, Urouge, Smoker, Vinsmoke Ichiji's Sparkling Valkyrie, Vinsmoke Judge, Niji's Dengeku Blue, X Drake, Chopper's Monster Point
- 10.07 Gigatons: Hakuba, Jinbe underwater
- 7.57 Gigatons: Monster Hody
- 5.03 Gigatons: Nico Robin, Diamante, Kyros, Gear 2nd Luffy, Don Chinjao, Monet, Gladius, Batholomeo, Lao G, Sai, Rob Lucci, Jinbe, Sabo, Viola's Durability, Tashigi, Wadatsumi
7-A
- 1.89 Gigatons: Base Luffy, Overdosed Hody, Carrot, Charlotte Perospero, Pedro, Vinsmoke Ichiji, Vinsmoke Niji, Vinsmoke Yonji, Vinsmoke Reiju, Tamago
7-B+
- 108.57 Megatons: Shiryu
Please tell me if I got anything wrong, or if I missed anyone.
- 59.17 Megatons: Caesar Clown, Senor Pink, Surume's Durability, Trebol
45 Gigatons comes from Luffy breaking the strings with compression. Smoothie ~ Cracker ~ G4's durability.Where does 45 Gigatons come from and why does Smoothie scale to it
Where does 20 Gigatons come from and why does G3rd scale to it
Going by the accepted scaling. They scale to Pedro apparently.I'm sorry but why are the Vinsmokes only high 7-A?
??? That's not the reasoning.And didn't we agree that Gear 3 doesn't scale 4x above Gear 2nd in a previous thread?
No.And doesn't Zoro in Ittoryu scale above Doflamingo for knocking Issho back when Doffy couldn't?
kAnd btw I now support Option B.
Pica's statue wouldn't scale to that and honestly Pica scaling to Hyouzou isn't accurate either.20 Gigatons comes from Hyouzou's 4x amp over G2-level durability, G3rd scales due to breaking Pica's statue.
Oooh, THAT'S why G3 scales 4x above G2, sorry that was my mistake.20 Gigatons comes from Hyouzou's 4x amp over G2-level durability, G3rd scales due to breaking Pica's statue.