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I agree with option C
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1: Film Z uses the same logic. Luffy stalemates an admiral tier before Dressrosa and no one argued lowering Z himself to Luffy's tier.Even if the film is accepted as canon, I still strongly disagree with the Shiki feat being used. The film is an absolute scaling mess, so it makes no sense to use that feat. Why is that feat useable to massively upgrade every God Tier when Luffy has a massive outlier of his own?
Not a problem, we don't use Energy levels to determine gaps in power. It's a High 6-B being upgraded to 6-A. It's a marginal upgrade at best.The calculations are SEVERAL times above than Whitebeard's calculations.
No reason to assume that.While his feat could have been done anytime within 20 years, there is a possibility that it was done by him weakened.
Energy level comparisons are not valid concerts unless the gap in tiering is too large.• The feats are several times above the highest calculation of the strongest fruit.
Wano Revision stuff.Was Therefir's Bajrang Gun calc not accepted?
That's another 6-A calc (even though it uses a smaller Onigashima size I think. The value would likely be slightly higher if KT's Onigashima size was used)
It's already accepted, I'm too lazy, sorryI agree with everything- though a translation on Cavendish's x2 reasoning would be nice. I agree with option C for the god tiers. Unless there are good arguments that change Shiki's feat, then I think it's fair to use.
Once he's KO'D forcibly they fall. Like Doffy's birdcage and Kaido's clouds. His endurance is what holds them up.Is Shiki actively holding up the islands, or is it that once he makes them float, they stay floating?
Both? He kinetically controls anything his DF is controlling.Is Shiki actively holding up the islands, or is it that once he makes them float, they stay floating?
Oh right. My b.Wano Revision stuff.
Bro I didn't even do anything on this thread.Whenever Esesso suggesting something, he would get the users here on their nerves
The WCI Arc might be discussed in different thread, at least from what i'm assumptingQuick question, since this is only beginning of Post-TS, none of these changes would apply to whole cake island characters like katakuri right? since g4th dressrosa is going up
Bro I didn't even do anything on this thread.
Question, does using this new justification effect BM's ratings at all?
I assume it's because between Dressrosa, WCI and beginning of wano there aren't new scalings specifically to add, so the non-god tiers that fought Luffy (and others) from those arcs just scale to the values found in Dressrosa and back.The WCI Arc might be discussed in different thread, at least from what i'm assumpting
Big MomQuestion, does using this new justification effect BM's ratings at all?
Bound manBig Mom
Yup.Bound man
Yeah but the multiplier wouldn’t be added onto thatWouldn't the headbutt also count as a compressed attack?
Portuguese momentJesus Cristo, no
Momento Brasileiro em thread de gringo.Portuguese moment
Eu to aqui por sua causa pra inicio de conversa, but anyway, we will discuss wholecake scaling on a different minor thread?Momento Brasileiro em thread de gringo.Se bem que a thread é minha
Why? They mostly upscale from these featsEu to aqui por sua causa pra inicio de conversa, but anyway, we will discuss wholecake scaling on a different minor thread?
No hablo macacoPortuguese moment
Hm... i disagree with beginning on wholecake luffy being = to dressrosa luffy, based on the sanji scaling, but i doubt the make of a new key and i know there is people ready to slap me so i prefer to not go any furtherWhy? They mostly upscale from these feats
Sure...We can discuss that… here
Like my main point is just that zou - beginning of wholecake luffy get an key, scaling base luffy to sanji in that specific moment of the story which... kinda upgrades a lot of other wholecake keys... if this start to become text long stuff i will instantly give upWe can discuss that… here
Meh, as much as i disagree, i can live in a world whitout itBase Luffy not scaling to Sanji