One Piece Discussion Thread: Welcome to New World

[PsychoWarper]

Zoro was able to achieve that level of attack once and was exhausted by it so lets not start acting like thats his baseline, we also dont know how much that attack would damaged Kaido nor have we seen Kaido even go all out yet.

Also wheres this idea Zoro is doing greatly against a Kaido who has mentioned to play with his “prey” and heavily underestimate the Novas, Zoro has so far done no damage and his one relevant attack was rather easily dodged and it legt him exhausted.

All we have for “Mihawk > Kaido” is some back scaling via Zoro not dying and causing a non-serious Kaido to dodge, which while is a decent feat doesnt really prove anything.

 

[Dr.Fix]

Kaen isn't a secret technique, much less an Ashura technique, so i don't know why Mihawk wouldn't be > Kaido at this point, or why Zoro wouldn't be > Luffy.

Why stop there. Why not Zoro >>>Mihawk

 

[XDragnoir]

Where are the Zoro supporters when they are needed? C'mon, say something.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Also scaring BM isnt really a feat since even Franky managed that, she overreacts constantly.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Well, Ace’s Manga Chapter 2 by Boichi is here:

https://****************.com/manga/one-piece-episode-a-chapter-2/

 

[Dr.Fix]

Well, Ace’s Manga Chapter 2 by Boichi is here:

https://****************.com/manga/one-piece-episode-a-chapter-2/

 

[KingTempest]

Well, Ace’s Manga Chapter 2 by Boichi is here:

https://****************.com/manga/one-piece-episode-a-chapter-2/

I need confirmation that Boichi's adaptation is canon. Cause this

Spoiler

Looks absolutely fire (no pun intended)

 

[XDragnoir]

Is that the same explosion from Ace vs Teach?

 

[KingTempest]

Is that the same explosion from Ace vs Teach?

Nope, this is when he fought Whitebeard.

Same technique though

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

I've read that Boichi's episode A has a couple differences to novel A, so it's canonicity is sadly unsure.

 

[XDragnoir]

And explosions normally don't have good results anyway, it takes way more than that to reach tier 6 with an explosion.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

It has still interesting stuff about Ace and Jinbe's fight, the fishmen's armament haki wasn't really effective against the mera mera. Interesting.

 

[KobsterHope07]

 

[XDragnoir]

Btw guys, if we had a more specific way of tiering the whole power of verse, from SSS to F for example, where would OP (and other verses you guys like) be ranked? S is where H1B is, F is the real world or weaker.

 

[KingTempest]

Btw guys, if we had a more specific way of tiering the whole power of verse, from SSS to F for example, where would OP (and other verses you guys like) be ranked? S is where H1B is, F is the real world or weaker.

C-D

If F is real world, D-C is real world + powered
B is a step further
A is Gods among men
S is dimensions higher

 

[XDragnoir]

Thinking about it, just remove anything above H3A from the equation, these damned smurfs and higher Ds don't let the normal characters have fun.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

So would that mean that SSS is H3A, SS is the rest of Tier 3, S is Tier 4, A is Tier 5, B is Tier 6, C is Tier 7, D is Tier 8, E is Tier 9, and F is Tier 10?

If so, then OP is a C, but if we take certain feats and interpretations, it becomes B (but imo OP could become an A- (5-C) at the end).

 

[XDragnoir]

I was thinking more about the amount and quality of hax (tier and speed also matter, but not that much), that's why i said it would be better to ignore tier 2 and above.

For example, i think Yhwach with all Schrifts is an A+ maybe a S, so Bleach would be one rank below because no one else does really reach his level of hax.

One Piece in the other hand is more consistent with hax but they aren't impressive enough, the speed of the verse is good and the AP was much better in a distant past is okay... i think the verse is D+ maybe C at best.

Toaru is a bit harder due to many smurfs, if i treat smurfs and higher Ds with the same value as H3A powers (H3A meaning anything infinte, not just H3A AP) then Toaru is actually very good, the verse would end with S or A+ (the gap from HigherDs/Smurfs to everyone else is massive). If all smurfs are excluded then the verse goes down to C+ or B- at best due to Fiamma, Kakine and a few others having some actually broken powers.

I want to do a thread about this but i want to know how exactly this would work before.

 

[Voltairee]

I need confirmation that Boichi's adaptation is canon. Cause this

Spoiler

Looks absolutely fire (no pun intended)

Is this feat calculated before?

 

[KingTempest]

Is this feat calculated before?

Nope

 

[KingTempest]

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This is the server (that I just made today) for One Piece Vs Battle wiki, I hope it comes to good use

 

[XDragnoir]

Btw, generic question, if you guys could create one single attack to any character/transformation, what would you guys do?

 

[KobsterHope07]

Btw, generic question, if you guys could create one single attack to any character/transformation, what would you guys do?

Eh… I give Blueno an attack where he can open a door in an enemy's chest and rip out their heart. Perfect assassination technique.

 

[LordGinSama]

Spatial Erasure for Law's Ope Ope.

 

[XDragnoir]

I would give a snow attack to Nami. That or an actually useful attack to Kid.

 

[KingTempest]

Omnidirectional Noro Noro blast for Foxy. Can make everyone around him slow, that would be crazy

 

[Axxtentacle]

I should've followed this a while ago. Sup bois

 

[Axxtentacle]

I made a Doflamingo match, if anyone's interested

 

[KobsterHope07]

I should've followed this a while ago. Sup bois

Eh, rarely does anyone uses this thread that much

 

[XDragnoir]

I really think someone, probably Sanji, needs to have an attack faster than light by the end (just a single attack to not mess everything) due to Oda using light speed in many villains' attacks (Kuma, Borsalino, etc).

 

[EternalMoment]

Excusme
Sorry, i have any question. Why does Law have Spatial Manipulation

I never saw any feats or statement about "Anything caught within the path of Law's sword-swing is spatially displaced"

 

[Damage3245]

Excusme
Sorry, i have any question. Why does Law have Spatial Manipulation

I never saw any feats or statement about "Anything caught within the path of Law's sword-swing is spatially displaced"

Have you read any fight involving Law in One Piece?

 

[Lgamer099_99]

Gaban supremacy in the episode of today.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

We finally have a somewhat meaningful feat for Gaban (aka Roger's left hand man), fighting and clashing with Oden in a serious fight (although no Buso seemed to be involved, so maybe not an all out fight). Now this feat by itself doesn't mean much and doesn't really give a rating by itself, but at least he finally has something.

 

[KingTempest]

(although no Buso seemed to be involved, so maybe not an all out fight)

Speaking of this

Didn't someone (I think it was Cin) want to revise the profiles with "with Haki" ratings?

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

I believe so, but I think that was for the Post-Timeskip scaling revisions.

 

[XDragnoir]

Question, if a certain material does not exist in OP, then a swordsman will be completely unable to cut it (at the start) even with AP advantage? For example, Daz Bonez (L7B) wasn't damaged by Mihawk (6B) when Mihawk didn't Desire to cut steel, so i guess the answer is "yes"?

 

[KingTempest]

No, they just won't be able to dura neg it. Cutting materials is not specific to the verse

 

[XDragnoir]

So... inside OP cutting steel requires strength and skill, but outside OP they only need the strength?

 

[KingTempest]

So... inside OP cutting steel requires strength and skill, but outside OP they only need the strength?

Probably.

Steel has more meaning in OP than outside. There can be a 2-A steel man, we won't say "he instacuts since it's still steel"