Official Smash Ultimate Tier List/Discussion Melee (#2)

[TheGatememer]

I got a thread that could potentially upgrade Captain Falcon to High 3-A, or Low 2-C

 

[Bware1]

Congrats to the Super Mario verse for being upgraded from High 4-C to 4-A

 

[Pulinno]

Oh thats nice

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

AP and Speedwise how do the 4-A Mario characters compare to the Kirby and Kid Icarus characters?

 

[JoshSSJGod]

From what I know, they don't do well against Kirby and i'm not sure for ol' Pitty Pat.

 

[Bware1]

I believe Mario is pretty High in terms of AP in 4-A, I mean his second key is high enough to arguably reach a baseline 3-C. So I think he'd be pretty High in terms of AP

 

[Pulinno]

Oh yeah also depending on the ARMS character that's added what'd be the ranking?

 

[Bware1]

I checked the profiles, and everyone seems to cap out at 8-C

 

[Pulinno]

Wow I actually thought it'd be higher for some reason

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

I believe Mario is pretty High in terms of AP in 4-A, I mean his second key is high enough to arguably reach a baseline 3-C. So I think he'd be pretty High in terms of AP

How high is base Mario?

 

[Bware1]

I believe Mario is pretty High in terms of AP in 4-A, I mean his second key is high enough to arguably reach a baseline 3-C. So I think he'd be pretty High in terms of AP

How high is base Mario?

He is superior to people who are these levels of power. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:The_real_cal_howard/Mario--Power_Stars_and_Black_Holes

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Just saying this now, supposedly there is some stuff that might possibly support Hero being 2-B, but I'm not quite sure.

 

[Bware1]

2-B Dragon Quest? Interesting.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Possibly, but I'm not confident.

 

[TheGatememer]

And I made a crt that could upgrade captain falcon to 3-A

 

[Bware1]

Can we get a New F-Zero game to go along with those buffs

 

[Bware1]

It seems 3-A F-Zero is nearing approval as it needs just a bit more staff input before acceptance. In other news, 2-A Shulk isn't going anywhere, for now

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

Finally, I'll have someone is cosmic tier again

 

[Pulinno]

It seems 3-A F-Zero is nearing approval as it needs just a bit more staff input before acceptance.

OH YES

 

[TheGatememer]

Well it's not actually 3-A, but 3-B Captain Falcon just needs one final approval in order to make changes.

 

[Bware1]

Didn't DDM say that 3-B to 3-A would be fine?

 

[TheGatememer]

I guess we can do that

 

[TheGatememer]

Well, Captain falcon is officially 3-B, possibly 3-A

 

[Bware1]

Congratulations to him. That's a massive upgrade

 

[Foxthefox1000]

he still gets hit with the hax hammer by everyone faster than him evem in the lower tiers

 

[TheGatememer]

Guess that's true, but at least he's pretty fast. around 9782354.5 c, so faster than KI characters

 

[Pulinno]

Hey so we need to move the recent stuff that wasn't carried over here and also STEVE

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

Here's my most recent tier list

 

[Pulinno]

Thanks

 

[00potato]

Where is ENDERMAN Minecraft?

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

Should I use the Real Player or Late Game key for Steve?

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Probably late game

 

[Pulinno]

We do see them use the Elytra (maybe with fireworks but idk) so probably a later key

 

[Pulinno]

Steve's out and he's got an Elytra, probably endgame key

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

is there a way to post a picture saved on my computer? Because I don't think I can copy an image address for Smash world

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

I ended up saving it on pinterest

 

[Pulinno]

Wow Steve is tier 7? That's pretty strong

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

By technicality probably, the stage 1 mons are 8-A+ and Steve is probably the slowest tier 7 on this list. So could probably beat Steve.

Would speed blitzing be able to clear a 4x AP gap or would that just be inconclusive?

 

[Pulinno]

Not really, unless they have hax, higher stamina or beat his durability

 

[00potato]

It would probably be inconclusive. Though the Pokémon in particular might have some answers.