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Obito Uchiha vs Ikki Kurogane.

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XSOULOFCINDERX said:
If it does, then Obito's gonna be suspicious as **** as to what's happening and just stay in Kamui while he starts nuking the Battlefield, probably throwing up the Uchiha Flame Formation just to be on the safe side as well.
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He resists fire from high 7-A's and what can't he just dodge the bijuu bombs?
 
from the description "Ikki had explained that the brain is unable to process all the little details around them without overworking itself and burning out" how the techniques works on someone with a Normal Brain, doesn't the sharingan do that tho overanalyse and uchiha don't get overload from that but get mimicry at a glance and almost precog like abilities?
 
Loyd said:
from the description "Ikki had explained that the brain is unable to process all the little details around them without overworking itself and burning out" how the techniques works on someone with a Normal Brain, doesn't the sharingan do that tho overanalyse and uchiha don't get overload from that but get mimicry at a glance and almost precog like abilities?
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Good Point.
 
Loyd said:
from the description "Ikki had explained that the brain is unable to process all the little details around them without overworking itself and burning out" how the techniques works on someone with a Normal Brain, doesn't the sharingan do that tho overanalyse and uchiha don't get overload from that but get mimicry at a glance and almost precog like abilities?
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Yes, the Sharingan's perception speed and kinetic vision are far faster than the user's physical body.
 
Trackless step is phasing into someone's unconscious
"This thing called Trackless Step is a martial arts technique that applies peculiar breath control and footwork to slip its user's existence into the opponent's unconsciousness"
 
Arcker123 said:
Trackless step is phasing into someone's unconscious
"This thing called Trackless Step is a martial arts technique that applies peculiar breath control and footwork to slip its user's existence into the opponent's unconsciousness"
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unless i read the wrong technique and how do they slip into the opponents unconsciousness?

does the ittou rasetsu follow the same prep as ittou shura? i wanna see how likely obito would go intangible against that move
 
Arcker123 said:
Trackless step is phasing into someone's unconscious
"This thing called Trackless Step is a martial arts technique that applies peculiar breath control and footwork to slip its user's existence into the opponent's unconsciousness"
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Trust me, he doesn't wanna be in any kind of subconscious with a Sharingan user. He'll just get genjutsu'd and put to sleep.
 
Loyd said:
unless i read the wrong technique and how do they slip into the opponents unconsciousness?

does the ittou rasetsu follow the same prep as ittou shura? i wanna see how likely obito would go intangible against that move
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I just posted the sentence after yours.
 
Trackless Step is an ancient martial art, where the user combines their breath control and footwork to slip into the consciousness of their opponent or intended target. As witnessing it first hand, Ikki had explained that the brain is unable to process all the little details around them without overworking itself and burning out. As such, instead of accelerating one's movements, it instead makes their movements difficult to perceive since their opponent's brain doesn't recognize it as relevant information, thus making it appear as if they just zoned out until the very moment they're attacked.

is this the same technique were refering to?
 
Arcker123 said:
He's in naruto's subconscious not sasukes, ikki already resists mindhax anyways.
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How good is that resistance? Obito massively upscales from a 600+ figure.

Also, the point was that they can cast genjutsu from within mental planes.
 
Arcker123 said:
Why?
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due to the brain being unable to process all of the little details that a person sees or hear without overworking itself and/or burning out. As such, the Trackless Step doesn't accelerate a person's movements, but it instead makes their actions challenging to perceive even though they're able to see them, their brain doesn't recognize it as relevant information.

sharingan does do what the normal brain can't. without overloading the uchiha plus giving them a plethora of abilites mimicry, almost precog etc
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
They're literally inside Naruto's mind.
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I'm talking about trackless step, also doesn't negate my point that even if
trackless step involves a literal mental plane, it would be in the uchiha mind not the uchiha entering another mind.That just sounds like Instinctive Reaction more than Mind hax resistance tbh, but whatever.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Sharingan genjutsu can still just straight up paralyze targets.
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Ikki resists.
Loyd said:
due to the brain being unable to process all of the little details that a person sees or hear without overworking itself and/or burning out. As such, the Trackless Step doesn't accelerate a person's movements, but it instead makes their actions challenging to perceive even though they're able to see them, their brain doesn't recognize it as relevant information.

sharingan does do what the normal brain can't. without overloading the uchiha plus giving them a plethora of abilites mimicry, almost precog etc
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Where are you getting this? The link on the page outright says he fades into your subconscious
 
Arcker123 said:
Where are you getting this? The link on the page outright says he fades into your subconscious
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from ikki profile Notable attacks/Techniques > skills > martial arts > Trackless step
where are you getting fades into subconscious, am i reading a different skill?
 
Arcker123 said:
I'm talking about trackless step, also doesn't negate my point that even if
trackless step involves a literal mental plane, it would be in the uchiha mind not the uchiha entering another mind.
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It's the same thing. The mental plane being theirs or someone else's wouldn't change anything.
Hell, Obito himself had Naruto forcibly entering his mind before, and he was still perfectly conscious and could've genjutsu'd him just like Sasuke did here (but plot kicked in because Talk no Jutsu is OP).
 
Loyd said:
from ikki profile Notable attacks/Techniques > skills > martial arts > Trackless step
where are you getting fades into subconscious, am i reading a different skill?
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Look at his stealth mastery ability, there is a novel excerpt which explains it.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
It's the same thing. The mental plane being theirs or someone else's wouldn't change anything.
Hell, Obito himself had Naruto forcibly entering his mind before, and he was still perfectly conscious and could've genjutsu'd him just like Sasuke did here (but plot kicked in because Talk no Jutsu is OP).
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Your unconsciousness is literally just you not recognizing him as worthwhile information, not him forcefully entering your mind.
 
Arcker123 said:
Look at his stealth mastery ability, there is a novel excerpt which explains it.

Your unconsciousness is literally just you not recognizing him as worthwhile information, not him forcefully entering your mind.
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anotepad right? im so sorry for the copy and paste dump whoevers reading this

"Hey Ikki, what is this Trackless Step?"

"Let's see, humans are nothing more than animals, and like a machine they can't process all the tiny details that they see and hear, and the brain certainly can't consciously recognize all of those sights and sounds. After all, if they processed and analyzed everything they see and hear, the brain will burn out. Therefore, the human brain will toss low-priority information into the unconscious, and abdicate recognizing them in order to ease the load on itself. This thing called Trackless Step is a martial arts technique that applies peculiar breath control and footwork to slip its user's existence into the opponent's unconsciousness. As a result, even though Shizuku can still see Toudou-san, she has become unable to recognize that fact. Even though the brain and the eye can capture Toudou-san's movements, they can't be processed because the consciousness is classifying them as unnecessary information, to the degree that a life-threatening danger can approach to little more than a blink away.

is this right?
 
Arcker123 said:
Your unconsciousness is literally just you not recognizing him as worthwhile information, not him forcefully entering your mind.
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Ah, okay I get it now. It's just stealth mastery pretty much. Obito can still see his attacks coming at the last second via his precognition and shared Rinnegan vision and activate Kamui, though. Even from blindspots.
 
KingTempest said:
Remember when he was a reanimation with infinite chakra that didn't require that? Yeah, that happened too
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Remember when Itachi instantly genjutsu'd Deidara? Or when he instantly genjutsu'd sasuke? I know this is a response to an OOOOLLLLDDD comment but I still want to get it across. I feel like people are upplaying how much time it takes for these characters to mold chakra. It's extremely fast.
 
Axxtentacle said:
Remember when Itachi instantly genjutsu'd Deidara? Or when he instantly genjutsu'd sasuke? I know this is a response to an OOOOLLLLDDD comment but I still want to get it across. I feel like people are upplaying how much time it takes for these characters to mold chakra. It's extremely fast.
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It's okay, Axx. Tempest understands his erroneous ways now. hehehehehehehehe
 
Loyd said:
due to the brain being unable to process all of the little details that a person sees or hear without overworking itself and/or burning out. As such, the Trackless Step doesn't accelerate a person's movements, but it instead makes their actions challenging to perceive even though they're able to see them, their brain doesn't recognize it as relevant information.

sharingan does do what the normal brain can't. without overloading the uchiha plus giving them a plethora of abilites mimicry, almost precog etc
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Ok? Can I have a feat of it seeing something it doesn't recognize is even there?
 
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