NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO [[Drink a cup of tea]]: Undertale VS Deltarune(was GRACE)(Not Usable anymore)

[Deleted member 16409]

And, Spamton wires can be cut even by Ralsei, so, the only what Asgore need it's just spam fireballs in the sky and wires will be melted or strongly hurted and if Spamton will move with that destructed wires, they will just be permanently destroyed and Asgore wins.


Asgore FRA

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

135÷3500= 25 attacks which Asgore can tank

Asgore's is a bit above baseline 9-B while Spamton's 9-A

Spamton One-Shots

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Asgore's is a bit above baseline 9-B while Spamton's 9-A

Spamton One-Shots

Nah, he doesn't. Spamton attacks in fight are just Soul-based one so Asgore would just dodge or block them with fireballs or melt Spamton wires

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Oh, seems like Spamton NEO does only 50 damage if he not triggered.
3500÷50=70 attacks
While Asgore can dodge or block he would survive likely 70 turns.
Spamton would trigger In-Character only if Player would spam yellow big shots, so only what Asgore needs is only spawn fire rain or just explose wires.
In Character Fight Asgore IS spawning attacks from the sky. So Asgore easily would destroy NEO by spamming fireballs.

Asgore FRA

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I will read this later

 

[DaReaperMan]

Nah, he doesn't. Spamton attacks in fight are just Soul-based one so Asgore would just dodge or block them with fireballs or melt Spamton wires

sigh since your new here I'll go easy on you. There is a literal like over 80x AP difference between Asgore and Spamton. Would you like to know the difference to one-shot? 7.5x. And your using very, very, very, VERY obvious game mechanics. SBA would assume Spamton is very much active.

 

[TheGatememer]

I genuinely don't see any way for Asgore to win anything short of Spamton literally standing still allowing Asgore to melt all his wires slowly (Which I doubt is even possible thanks to the massive AP difference). Spamton literally has an 80x AP advantage, so literally anything from Spamton would kill Asgore. If it's somehow not a stomp, I vote Spamton

 

[Deleted member 16409]

game mechanic are CANON.
so, I mean that Spamton attacks wont one shot Asgore either. Don't forget that Spamton in character starts with just flying heads and Asgore possibly knows Mettatpn patterns. And, your calculations won't actually work here cause c'mon. Try Spamton on Genocide route by Kris with 0 defence while Asgore got 80 defence&attack, Asgore probably go one-shot Spamton cause Spamton won't dodge that in character and just tank every attack. And, Spamton would allow Asgore melt his wires because in character Spamton want to get off that wires. so yeah, Asgore FRA

 

[JustANormalLemon]

thanks to the Spanton upgrade this is a stomp, well... It was great

 

[Deleted member 16409]

thanks to the Spanton upgrade this is a stomp, well... It was great

Where

 

[JustANormalLemon]

game mechanic are CANON.
so, I mean that Spamton attacks wont one shot Asgore either. Don't forget that Spamton in character starts with just flying heads and Asgore possibly knows Mettatpn patterns. And, your calculations won't actually work here cause c'mon. Try Spamton on Genocide route by Kris with 0 defence while Asgore got 80 defence&attack, Asgore probably go one-shot Spamton cause Spamton won't dodge that in character and just tank every attack. And, Spamton would allow Asgore melt his wires because in character Spamton want to get off that wires. so yeah, Asgore FRA

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[JustANormalLemon]

Where

he was 9-B whem the battle was made

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Game Mechanics

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bro, I think that Deltarune and Undertale are exception to that thingy, cause Heal Point are actually EXISTS in Deltarune (thanks to Spamton). Spamton says that Fun Gang trying to deplete his 8000HP. And even Susie mentions about game mechanic existing

 

[Deleted member 16409]

And, there's still some Asgore win-con

he was 9-B whem the battle was mad

 

[DaReaperMan]

game mechanic are CANON.
so, I mean that Spamton attacks wont one shot Asgore either. Don't forget that Spamton in character starts with just flying heads and Asgore possibly knows Mettatpn patterns. And, your calculations won't actually work here cause c'mon. Try Spamton on Genocide route by Kris with 0 defence while Asgore got 80 defence&attack, Asgore probably go one-shot Spamton cause Spamton won't dodge that in character and just tank every attack. And, Spamton would allow Asgore melt his wires because in character Spamton want to get off that wires. so yeah, Asgore FRA

No, they ain't.
Deltarune=/=Undertale. I'm done messing around cause you clealry don't want to listen. If you wanked Asgore's **** more you'd be in a kiddy pool, you wank the fire when it literally has no feats of being above regular old fire in heat, you wank the stats cross-scaling, which is a nono, you wank saying Asgore would one-shot right after that. If spamton has been upgraded he one-shots even harder then 10x over.

bro, I think that Deltarune and Undertale are exception to that thingy, cause Heal Point are actually EXISTS in Deltarune (thanks to Spamton). Spamton says that Fun Gang trying to deplete his 8000HP. And even Susie mentions about game mechanic existing

They really shouldn't. Oh and also, going by your game mechanics-wanked logic, how many times does asgore who literally deals 4 damage need to hit Spamton again? Oh riiight. 2000. That's more then enough time for Spamton's jank to utterly eviscerate Asgore.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

No, they ain't.
Deltarune=/=Undertale. I'm done messing around cause you clealry don't want to listen. If you wanked Asgore's **** more you'd be in a kiddy pool, you wank the fire when it literally has no feats of being above regular old fire in heat, you wank the stats cross-scaling, which is a nono, you wank saying Asgore would one-shot right after that. If spamton has been upgraded he one-shots even harder then 10x over.

They really shouldn't. Oh and also, going by your game mechanics-wanked logic, how many times does asgore who literally deals 4 damage need to hit Spamton again? Oh riiight. 2000. That's more then enough time for Spamton's jank to utterly eviscerate Asgore.

No, they ain't.
Deltarune=/=Undertale. I'm done messing around cause you clealry don't want to listen. If you wanked Asgore's **** more you'd be in a kiddy pool, you wank the fire when it literally has no feats of being above regular old fire in heat, you wank the stats cross-scaling, which is a nono, you wank saying Asgore would one-shot right after that. If spamton has been upgraded he one-shots even harder then 10x over.

They really shouldn't. Oh and also, going by your game mechanics-wanked logic, how many times does asgore who literally deals 4 damage need to hit Spamton again? Oh riiight. 2000. That's more then enough time for Spamton's jank to utterly eviscerate Asgore.

thx for insulting me.

Ok, and let's remember that the only what Asgore needs is only just melt his wires which are pretty obviously not THAT strong. So, yeah, Spamton physical body has insane durability but not the Soul one, and remember that magic in Deltarune world negates whole ******* physical defence, so, and even include Susie when their soul attacks not that strong, but when magic attacks is striking body has insane damage. So, 80÷10=8. 8×32=248×7=1736 damage. Just 7 turns and Spamton would be just a piece of trash lol.

and you didn't even give a reason why stats aren't canon is deltarune but just insulting me lmao

 

[azontr]

This is a stomp. Why put a barely above baseline 9-B against a full-on 9-A with plenty of ways to end King Fluffy-Buns?

 

[DaReaperMan]

thx for insulting me.

Ok, and let's remember that the only what Asgore needs is only just melt his wires which are pretty obviously not THAT strong. So, yeah, Spamton physical body has insane durability but not the Soul one, and remember that magic in Deltarune world negates whole ******* physical defence, so, and even include Susie when their soul attacks not that strong, but when magic attacks is striking body has insane damage. So, 80÷10=8. 8×32=248×7=1736 damage. Just 7 turns and Spamton would be just a piece of trash lol.

and you didn't even give a reason why stats aren't canon is deltarune but just insulting me lmao

Once again Deltarune=/=Undertale. I'll explain this to you like your 5. That means that we cannot match Undertale's stats to Deltarune's, and the same is for Deltarune to Undertale. This means that HP, turns, and general stats from the games do not matter in vs threads. Explanation over.

Asgore here is, let me see, Massively upscale from 64 Kilojoules. Where does Spamton stand now again? 0.006 tons. That's a pickle, let's convert the Kilojoules to tons! 0.00001 tons. Those are the stats we are using for this fight. Undertale and Deltarune cannot be cross scaled to eachother.

 

[DaReaperMan]

And your also blatantly ignoring that Asgore does 4 damage to Frisk no matter what. so there.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Once again Deltarune=/=Undertale. I'll explain this to you like your 5. That means that we cannot match Undertale's stats to Deltarune's, and the same is for Deltarune to Undertale. This means that HP, turns, and general stats from the games do not matter in vs threads. Explanation over.

Asgore here is, let me see, Massively upscale from 64 Kilojoules. Where does Spamton stand now again? 0.006 tons. That's a pickle, let's convert the Kilojoules to tons! 0.00001 tons. Those are the stats we are using for this fight. Undertale and Deltarune cannot be cross scaled to eachother.

now here we go

 

[Deleted member 16409]

And still, what the **** is deltarune turns mechanic is irrelevant in vs discussion

Once again Deltarune=/=Undertale. I'll explain this to you like your 5. That means that we cannot match Undertale's stats to Deltarune's, and the same is for Deltarune to Undertale. This means that HP, turns, and general stats from the games do not matter in vs threads. Explanation over.

Asgore here is, let me see, Massively upscale from 64 Kilojoules. Where does Spamton stand now again? 0.006 tons. That's a pickle, let's convert the Kilojoules to tons! 0.00001 tons. Those are the stats we are using for this fight. Undertale and Deltarune cannot be cross scaled to eachother.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

And your also blatantly ignoring that Asgore does 4 damage to Frisk no matter what. so there.

btw why Spamton is outside Dark World here?

 

[azontr]

And still, what the **** is deltarune turns mechanic is irrelevant in vs discussion

He is mentioning that cross-scaling between the two games, even if they are made by the same person and set in the same universe, isn't something this site does. Please read.

 

[DaReaperMan]

now here we go

Try and and look at the profiles and what they scale to next time. Look at the shit.

btw why Spamton is outside Dark World here?

Because by SBA we kind of ignore that kind of restriction like being in the dark world.

And still, what the **** is deltarune turns mechanic is irrelevant in vs discussion

Your the one who brought it up!

Also please don't multipost, it clogs up the thread.

 

[azontr]

He is mentioning that cross-scaling between the two games, even if they are made by the same person and set in the same universe, isn't something this site does. Please read.

And just to clarify so my words aren't twisted, cross-scaling IS possible IF a character from the previous game is shown to be comparable to the characters in the next game, in the next game. From what I've seen Asgore hasn't fought with and doesn't scale to any 9-A's in Deltarune, and probably hasn't even appeared in it, so cross-scaling just doesn't work.

 

[DaReaperMan]

And just to clarify so my words aren't twisted, cross-scaling IS possible IF a character from the previous game is shown to be comparable to the characters in the next game, in the next game. From what I've seen Asgore hasn't fought with and doesn't scale to any 9-A's in Deltarune, and probably hasn't even appeared in it, so cross-scaling just doesn't work.

He did appear in Deltarune but as an ENTIRELY different character without any possible scaling to the one in Undertale.

 

[azontr]

He did appear in Deltarune but as an ENTIRELY different character without any possible scaling to the one in Undertale.

I've yet to play Deltarune so I didn't know lol. To lazy to buy it. I've 100%'d Undertale like 10 times though so lol.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Try and and look at the profiles and what they scale to next time. Look at the shit.

Because by SBA we kind of ignore that kind of restriction like being in the dark world.

Your the one who brought it up!

Also please don't multipost, it clogs up the thread.

Ok, I see, in this place some game mechanic are ignorable, right?

So, I will wait the 3-5 chapter to compare Toriel against Spamton for just to see how situation will change. And, I kinda curious to see what will happen if NEO 1v4 against Flowey(restricted RESETS), Asgore, Toriel and UndyneX.

 

[azontr]

Ok, I see, in this place some game mechanic are ignorable, right?

Game mechanics can be applied if the verse shows that game mechanics are like an actual thing in the world, not just gameplay, so it just needs a very specific case to count as there are verses with game mechanics that work in VS Threads.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Ok, I see, in this place some game mechanic are ignorable, right?

So, I will wait the 3-5 chapter to compare Toriel against Spamton for just to see how situation will change. And, I kinda curious to see what will happen if NEO 1v4 against Flowey(restricted RESETS), Asgore, Toriel and UndyneX.

Yeah, game mechanics in general are usually ignored unless they actually assist in the game's scaling/the game doesn't have much lore. But those are specific cases and Undertale/Deltarune don't fit them outside of vague statements.

Spamton's stats won't change in later chapters, and he'd utterly stomp there too. Just... don't try and throw Undertale at Deltarune unless the character's name is Sans.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Game mechanics can be applied if the verse shows that game mechanics are like an actual thing in the world, not just gameplay, so it just needs a very specific case to count as there are verses with game mechanics that work in VS Threads.

But in da Light World there's Undertale stats mechanic, the proof is the "C" button and storage.

1. Flowey mentions LV and Soul thingy
2. Toriel mentions buttons.
3. Ralsei mentions Z button (and Susie didn't know about Z)
and etc

Spamton's stats won't change in later chapters, and he'd utterly stomp there too.

I mean, Toriel dark world version

 

[DaReaperMan]

But in da Light World there's Undertale stats mechanic, the proof is the "C" button and storage.

1. Flowey mentions LV and Soul thingy
2. Toriel mentions buttons.
3. Ralsei mentions Z button (and Susie didn't know about Z)
and etc

I mean, Toriel dark world version

Canonically explained
Not Canonically explained
Funny joke is funny.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Canonically explained
Not Canonically explained
Funny joke is funny.

btw is Toriel 3-5 Chapter (Dark World one) would be possible not stomp if throw her against Spamton?

(btw give me tutorial how to create discussion or threads)

 

[DaReaperMan]

btw is Toriel 3-5 Chapter (Dark World one) would be possible not stomp if throw her against Spamton?

(btw give me tutorial how to create discussion or threads)

Unknown at this point, depending on feats they may be dead even or a stomp in Toriel's favour, there simply ain't a way to know what her haxes or anything are.

Go to any of the forums(versus threads, content revision, you name it) and put title at the top and text, and anything else like videos or scans below it, the ladder is required for pretty much any CRT

 

[JustANormalLemon]

now that spamton is 9-A how about spamton NEO vs Incon king?

 

[DaReaperMan]

now that spamton is 9-A how about spamton NEO vs Incon king?

How about big stomp? Even with Article Canon?

 

[azontr]

Who's the Incon King lol.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

How about big stomp? Even with Article Canon?

What? Are you saying It's a stomo for with side?

Who's the Incon King lol.

SCP-682

 

[Bruhtelho]

What? Are you saying It's a stomo for with side?

SCP-682

682 is probably one of the strongest 9-A's, that is not a good idea

 

[azontr]

SCP-682

Bruh why would you even consider putting any Undertale characters against that guy LOL.