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If Kars's win conditions work it's a stomp. Ashen One has no win cons.
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Novel Kars vs Ashen One - Stillwinston's curiosity.
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>It checks out of no one because that's against the rules.
It aint against any rule though, it's just not the standard assumption.
>I just posted the thread where it was removed.
And I read through it, nobody brought up Kars actually outright confirms Joji theory, so the fact it was taken off due to only being a theory is wrong because the theory was confirmed.
>Your link was wrong, you seem to have fixed it.
Yeah but I fixed it like not even half a minute after posting?
>And this one doesn't count.
Gravity manipulation and universal creation are definitely powers that have a potency and scale.
>Yes, point to a single one if there are so many. A link to a profile that was wrong which you fixed in an edit later.
Fire manipulation, easy. Light manipulation too, especially as Kars already has a affinity with that. Yes and it seems you skimmed my post as it was fixed seconds later. Also clearly didnt bother to actually look him up either yourself.
It aint against any rule though, it's just not the standard assumption.
>I just posted the thread where it was removed.
And I read through it, nobody brought up Kars actually outright confirms Joji theory, so the fact it was taken off due to only being a theory is wrong because the theory was confirmed.
>Your link was wrong, you seem to have fixed it.
Yeah but I fixed it like not even half a minute after posting?
>And this one doesn't count.
Gravity manipulation and universal creation are definitely powers that have a potency and scale.
>Yes, point to a single one if there are so many. A link to a profile that was wrong which you fixed in an edit later.
Fire manipulation, easy. Light manipulation too, especially as Kars already has a affinity with that. Yes and it seems you skimmed my post as it was fixed seconds later. Also clearly didnt bother to actually look him up either yourself.
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It is though. That's not a wincondition.
Make a CRT.
It's not universal creation, it's a chain reaction to speeding up the universe.
He resurrects, now what. You're the one that made the claim, you back it up.
Make a CRT.
It's not universal creation, it's a chain reaction to speeding up the universe.
He resurrects, now what. You're the one that made the claim, you back it up.
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>Dude Kars' BFR is throwing someone into a different universe, out of infinite, and he can layer universes on top that making returning even harder, I dont think either of those items have feats showing multi-universal travel and even then returning to the specific universe out of infinite is a tad sus.
- Actually Dark Souls in general has a functionally infinate multiverse due to the pvp mechanics and it's not so much finding his way back as the item automatically return him to the last bonfire rested at which would be the one near the fight. And even if that doesn't work, Ashen can return to Firelink Shrine and use it's warp system to fine the approperate bonfire and just warp there.
- Actually if Ashen is handicaped in anyway he can just activate the Dark Sign which will kill him and return him back to the bonfire perfectly whole. The Dark Sign also isn't an item or even a physical thing on his body.
- Again, I think the Dark Sign would actually counter that as I'm pretty sure it's thought based
possibly
- I thought you meant sending Ashen to the past. I'm actually not sure how he'd counter that.
- Cool
- I know right? Whitesnake just sounds weird. The only other thing I can think of is the Rapport spell which is basically mind control and Ashen is functionally immune to it.
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Im looking I dont see any rule against it, in fact all I see is it saying that a win condition shoudl actually be specified. Hell apparently KO is a win condition of all things let alone death.
Not what I said. I asked if you purposely contancted an admin and left out vital information explaining why the original CRT was blatantly wrong. I even gave you the quote from the book, the absense of truth is still a lie even if it purposly makes others believe something you know is wrong.
Reading comprehension, universe creation is D4C, I never said MIH was universal creation, in fact the fact youre implying I said that shows how dishonest you are, regardless of if you like it or not it is what it is. And MIH is universal gravity manipulation and that's something that he does himself and has direct power over, ive already said that im ignoring the chain reaction in like my second post, pay attenton please.
He kills him again, easy or uses one of his spells to incap, if I recall theres a handful of spells that invalidate other players in pvp. Although a bit of a moot point when Whitesnake works fine as a win condition or body control or travels back in time to before he ever got the curse and offs him then. And oh? I never claimed Kars would perma-kill him with his own powers, just that he doesnt resist them.
Not what I said. I asked if you purposely contancted an admin and left out vital information explaining why the original CRT was blatantly wrong. I even gave you the quote from the book, the absense of truth is still a lie even if it purposly makes others believe something you know is wrong.
Reading comprehension, universe creation is D4C, I never said MIH was universal creation, in fact the fact youre implying I said that shows how dishonest you are, regardless of if you like it or not it is what it is. And MIH is universal gravity manipulation and that's something that he does himself and has direct power over, ive already said that im ignoring the chain reaction in like my second post, pay attenton please.
He kills him again, easy or uses one of his spells to incap, if I recall theres a handful of spells that invalidate other players in pvp. Although a bit of a moot point when Whitesnake works fine as a win condition or body control or travels back in time to before he ever got the curse and offs him then. And oh? I never claimed Kars would perma-kill him with his own powers, just that he doesnt resist them.
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Yes, KO or incapacitation. Your point?
Make a CRT x2.
Don't argue about an ability he doesn't have. Make a CRT if you think he should have it.
He needs to incap for over a day, and the Ashen One has 0 abilities that do that. Sure, but then it's a stomp as I said.
Make a CRT x2.
Don't argue about an ability he doesn't have. Make a CRT if you think he should have it.
He needs to incap for over a day, and the Ashen One has 0 abilities that do that. Sure, but then it's a stomp as I said.
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>Actually Dark Souls in general has a functionally infinate multiverse due to the pvp mechanics and it's not so much finding his way back as the item automatically return him to the last bonfire rested at which would be the one near the fight. And even if that doesn't work, Ashen can return to Firelink Shrine and use it's warp system to fine the approperate bonfire and just warp there.
But it isnt infinite, it's just High 2-B in range, which is infinitly smaller then what would posibly be needed. Also im pretty sure homeward bones and the like dont work in pvc or they return you to the bonfire of that person's world. Regardless they dont have that type of range. Also like, Kars could just move the bonfire in the firelink situation, hell it worked wonders for the bloodborne hunters, that gank was bullshit actually. Plus the layering effect is a bit of a pain to get around.
>Actually if Ashen is handicaped in anyway he can just activate the Dark Sign which will kill him and return him back to the bonfire perfectly whole. The Dark Sign also isn't an item or even a physical thing on his body.
>Again, I think the Dark Sign would actually counter that as I'm pretty sure it's thought based
I recall there being a animation for it that had him kneel and hold something to his chest (also if it's thought based whitesnake could likely remove it).
>I thought you meant sending Ashen to the past. I'm actually not sure how he'd counter that.
No kars himself has time travel, and he doesnt mind searching through quadrillions of years to find something specific. He wouldnt mind searching for before he got the undead curse.
>I know right? Whitesnake just sounds weird. The only other thing I can think of is the Rapport spell which is basically mind control and Ashen is functionally immune to it.
Yeah that aint gonna cut it, Whitesnake aint like your generic psychic or magic mind control, it's almost like a computer and you're rewriting the computers code on discs, and I mean that literally, it uses actual CD discs and can turn someone's mind into a disc and eject it out of them. . (also whitesnake can straight up remove someone's mind and memories making them comatose and a vegetable).
But it isnt infinite, it's just High 2-B in range, which is infinitly smaller then what would posibly be needed. Also im pretty sure homeward bones and the like dont work in pvc or they return you to the bonfire of that person's world. Regardless they dont have that type of range. Also like, Kars could just move the bonfire in the firelink situation, hell it worked wonders for the bloodborne hunters, that gank was bullshit actually. Plus the layering effect is a bit of a pain to get around.
>Actually if Ashen is handicaped in anyway he can just activate the Dark Sign which will kill him and return him back to the bonfire perfectly whole. The Dark Sign also isn't an item or even a physical thing on his body.
>Again, I think the Dark Sign would actually counter that as I'm pretty sure it's thought based
I recall there being a animation for it that had him kneel and hold something to his chest (also if it's thought based whitesnake could likely remove it).
>I thought you meant sending Ashen to the past. I'm actually not sure how he'd counter that.
No kars himself has time travel, and he doesnt mind searching through quadrillions of years to find something specific. He wouldnt mind searching for before he got the undead curse.
>I know right? Whitesnake just sounds weird. The only other thing I can think of is the Rapport spell which is basically mind control and Ashen is functionally immune to it.
Yeah that aint gonna cut it, Whitesnake aint like your generic psychic or magic mind control, it's almost like a computer and you're rewriting the computers code on discs, and I mean that literally, it uses actual CD discs and can turn someone's mind into a disc and eject it out of them. . (also whitesnake can straight up remove someone's mind and memories making them comatose and a vegetable).
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>Yes, KO or incapacitation. Your point?
You know Kars has several ways to just ko him right without killing?
>Make a CRT x2.
Answer my question.
>Don't argue about an ability he doesn't have. Make a CRT if you think he should have it.
Answer my question: the sequel.
>He needs to incap for over a day, and the Ashen One has 0 abilities that do that.
That's not true, he has spells that incap they just dont last that long, but if we couple that with whitesnake's funky time compression he could likely extend the effects of the spells (although that's a bit ooc, and he wouldnt need to anyway, he'd likely just use normal whitesnake long before that even crosses his minds).
You know Kars has several ways to just ko him right without killing?
>Make a CRT x2.
Answer my question.
>Don't argue about an ability he doesn't have. Make a CRT if you think he should have it.
Answer my question: the sequel.
>He needs to incap for over a day, and the Ashen One has 0 abilities that do that.
That's not true, he has spells that incap they just dont last that long, but if we couple that with whitesnake's funky time compression he could likely extend the effects of the spells (although that's a bit ooc, and he wouldnt need to anyway, he'd likely just use normal whitesnake long before that even crosses his minds).
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And if they work, it's a stomp. It's a bad match up either way.
And they need to last that a day if you want it to count as win condition. And whitesnake doesn't have any form of time manipulation.
And they need to last that a day if you want it to count as win condition. And whitesnake doesn't have any form of time manipulation.
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Nope, everything returns Ashen to his own world.
I'm pretty sure the Dark Sign just uses the standard item use animation, but lore wise it's mentioned as being a brand but a search of the player character's body reveals nothing that looks like it.
I'm pretty sure the Dark Sign just uses the standard item use animation, but lore wise it's mentioned as being a brand but a search of the player character's body reveals nothing that looks like it.
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He compressed 6 months into 4 hours with Pucci, never really explains how, Kars just goes lol time fuckery.Ogbunabali said:
>Nope, everything returns Ashen to his own world.
Are you certain? I recall them simply not working if youre in anothers world. Maybe but it being a brand doesnt mean its thought based, especially as in all games theyres physical interaction and even a bit of a lag to do it. But still, it's a bit suspect to assume it'd work on Kars' operating range.
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Technically 2-A Mind Hax can mean you can mind hax 2-As/Higher Dimensional beings which makes it harder to resist.
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here, lemme just show you thisPsychoWarper said:
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What? Yes time doesnt rewind but it says that the target will blow up again.
Also Kars version of BtD can be actived when ever he wants.
Also Kars version of BtD can be actived when ever he wants.
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ah, then he can create a loop by himself then, instead of it being automatic.
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Yep,
"Everyone BUT the victim (and ultimately Kars) will have no memory of the happenings of the moments in reversed time. This can be circumvented through the option of placing the bomb upon himself, effectively skipping the middle man and allowing him to use this whenever with no drawbacks. The bomb can be undone at any time when Kars wishes."
"Everyone BUT the victim (and ultimately Kars) will have no memory of the happenings of the moments in reversed time. This can be circumvented through the option of placing the bomb upon himself, effectively skipping the middle man and allowing him to use this whenever with no drawbacks. The bomb can be undone at any time when Kars wishes."
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Okay so just wanna say I'm not really fussed if it's a stomp or bad match up, it's just this question has been on my mind for some time now and I'd to thank you all for participating. 
