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NNT AP Revision

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Cool, but they're being treated as linear currently, so that doesn't really matter. The fact that it's now debated is simply retroactive, and actually doesn't do anything for your point because that'd mean (by your own logic) that the NNT multiplier you want to add is similarly contentious.

It's not connecting dots in the same way. Those are still stated multipliers and applied to those exact characters, while this is applying 1 unstated multiplier from Meliodas to another version of himself.

Look, I want this applied as much as you do (I truly do, and planned for it in my original OP), but it can't happen rn.
 
Majinere566 said:
Why don't you get Arnold to explain the purpose of his crts to instead of potentially misinterpreting his points.

Actually this isn't even the crt to be worried about other verses
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I’m not worried about BC I try to apply the logic that has been applied for BC to NNT since it’s a common multiplier rule that is unfair and mid BC is just the perfect exemple of a recent moment where the multipliers rules didn’t apply
 
ByAsura said:
Cool, but they're being treated as linear currently, so that doesn't really matter. The fact that it's now debated is simply retroactive, and actually doesn't do anything for your point because that'd mean (by your own logic) that the NNT multiplier you want to add is similarly contentious.

It's not connecting dots in the same way. Those are still stated multipliers and applied to those exact characters, while this is applying 1 unstated multiplier from Meliodas to another version of himself.

Look, I want this applied as much as you do (I truly do, and planned for it in my original OP), but it can't happen rn.
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This is applying an unstated Meliodas multiplier that did more than a stated multiplier and lowballing it to said stated multiplier

If it’s wrong then np I tried at least 😹
 
ByAsura said:
Cool, but they're being treated as linear currently, so that doesn't really matter. The fact that it's now debated is simply retroactive, and actually doesn't do anything for your point because that'd mean (by your own logic) that the NNT multiplier you want to add is similarly contentious.

It's not connecting dots in the same way. Those are still stated multipliers and applied to those exact characters, while this is applying 1 unstated multiplier from Meliodas to another version of himself.

Look, I want this applied as much as you do (I truly do, and planned for it in my original OP), but it can't happen rn.
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Thank you for trying to be responsible, ByAsura.
 
Since nobody disagrees with my Tristan logic, I'm adding it and prepping up some stuff for Percival (since he's now integral to the revisions).

On this note, should Tristan have a night-time amp like normal demons?
Majinere566 said:
Wouldn't this make base Lancelot 6-A?
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Yes.
Majinere566 said:
Is 4kota Meliodas going to get a page format similar to Naruto New Era?
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I don't think so. Unless it's worth having a separate page rather than tabbers.
 
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Percival was should be at Speed of light due he state himself relative to fiddich after gaining power of hope, while in previous arc he can't even see fiddich movement and get stomped. And melagaland should be put at SOL/FTL do defeated percival
 
smh...

ByAsura said:
Cool, but they're being treated as linear currently, so that doesn't really matter
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Just ignore him, the percentages are stated to be linear.

Makai641001 said:
We saw With Black Clover’s exemple that the multiplier rules can be ignored if There is no contradictions
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This is obviously not true. Other than the arbitrary limit which isn't in the rules, the rules were followed.

Stop bringing me, black clover or other verses into your arguments.
 
Arnoldstone18 said:
smh...



Just ignore him, the percentages are stated to be linear.



This is obviously not true. Other than the arbitrary limit which isn't in the rules, the rules were followed.

Stop bringing me, black clover or other verses into your arguments.
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You even said the multiplier rules were mid in your meme

I was bringing BC into this cause i thought We could maybe follow your exemple
You inflated the higher calc you have by several thousands of times Which is normally not possible and you connect the dots logically using Something considered as linear

We do not inflate anything
The value i wanted to add back is a 2x amp
We connect the dots too using something stated to compare

There was one more Time 0% of salt from me and des already decided to not accept it


On another note guys i prolly have covid i’ll take a break From vsbw

Speedster don’t make people go crazy while i’ m absent

Aether good luck With your calcs

Majin good luck With your calcs too

Arnold nice feets + don’t be mad at me i was genuinely not trying to bring down BC good luck for the tournament

Asura good luck With Speedster
 
Yeah I'm up for that, since it doesn't affect scaling because no one in the present scales to it, and only a past version of Escanor scales to it.
 
Not even Escanor, tbh. He couldn't hurt Mel's base form and got knocked out by that blow.
 
ByAsura said:
Not even Escanor, tbh. He couldn't hurt Mel's base form and got knocked out by that blow.
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I'd say meliodas going AM means his base isn't enough, but we don't have a "young" key for escanot nor that we need one
But yeah its fine to add to mel's profile
 
I think that too, but my point is that he's really not much stronger.

Yeah, he also doesn't really have any feats, aside from his much stronger self at Edinburgh (that was 3 years later).
 
ByAsura said:
I haven't added that part yet, and the speed thread hasn't even been made.

Get well soon, my guy.
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Thank you


ByAsura said:
Should we give Unsealed Meliodas Assault Mode for dunking The One Escanor 15 years ago (5 years before his power was sealed)?

This isn't for scaling, since Escanor was less powerful back then and constantly fighting Meliodas to master his powers.
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Yeah i think we can give him it doesn’t affect the scaling so We are good
 
I think it's just best to leave Gowther's emotion restored key as unknown, especially when it comes to striking strength.

Has a power level of 35,400 which is in between Unsealed Base Meliodas and Critical Over Galand

We've agreed to, for the most part, not simply scale combat classes when the sub-categories are unknown. There's exceptions of course (like Ludoshel and Mael), but Gowther very rarely uses his magic and physical abilities for direct or physical purposes, and is most likely just magic.

Has enough magic power to assist the original Gowther in casting his forbidden spell

This isn't really anything AP worthy.

A combined attack from him and Post-Training King destroyed a weakened Base Chandler's magical wall at night in one shot

It's unknown how much Gowther contributed, or even if he contributed to the power of the attack itself rather than just damaging Chandler's spirit, especially when King alone could one-shot him with Form One. Plus, even if he did, Gowther's magic can potentially exceed Destroyer-type.
 
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What do we consider the statement about post revival assault mode meliodas to be on par with his prime
I know this statement was probably discussed before but i wasn't there
 
Not true, and completely inconsistent with the fact that he was continuously growing stronger throughout that arc.
 
Sandbox 1, 2 and 3.

I've removed stuff from some of the sandboxes, but that's because I'm shifting it to a new sandbox pretty soon.
 
ByAsura said:
I think it's just best to leave Gowther's emotion restored key as unknown, especially when it comes to striking strength.

Has a power level of 35,400 which is in between Unsealed Base Meliodas and Critical Over Galand

We've agreed to, for the most part, not simply scale combat classes when the sub-categories are unknown. There's exceptions of course (like Ludoshel and Mael), but Gowther very rarely uses his magic and physical abilities for direct or physical purposes, and is most likely just magic.

Has enough magic power to assist the original Gowther in casting his forbidden spell

This isn't really anything AP worthy.

A combined attack from him and Post-Training King destroyed a weakened Base Chandler's magical wall at night in one shot

It's unknown how much Gowther contributed, or even if he contributed to the power of the attack itself rather than just damaging Chandler's spirit, especially when King alone could one-shot him with Form One. Plus, even if he did, Gowther's magic can potentially exceed Destroyer-type.
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His arrow of light damaged flesh and Spirit but Chandler seems a bit like a glasscanon sometimes
 
ByAsura said:
Like I said, damaging his flesh could easily just be King himself.
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He seems to be referring to the light part but Yeah and even if He contributed half of it Chandler gets lots of damage from people far weaker than himself
 
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