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I am doing great. No hard feelings?I didn't even realise you were mad. I was just joking.
Life's fine. Hby?
I'll wait maybe a couple days, especially in light of the new Helbram stuff.
Also give the blog to the calc group members message walls which would make it go faster.I didn't even realise you were mad. I was just joking.
Life's fine. Hby?
I'll wait maybe a couple days, especially in light of the new Helbram stuff.
Makes sense, was just trying my luckI still don't see your point.
All damage does itself is bring him closer to death due to his body breaking down, so damage actually has nothing to do with it except for activating Crisis by proxy.
Besides, taking twice the damage wouldn't double his power, it'd double the amp he receives from his life draining away. For example, let's say he has a health bar, and receiving 1 damage increases his power 1% (non-exponentially). 2 damage would just increase his power 2%.
If anything, this shows how wrong your point is.
He's already damaged at the start of the fight, gets blasted with lightning spree, gets obliterated again, and it takes another attack for him to equal Ludoshel. Then he surpasses Ludo by continuing to break down on his own.
If it is proportional to damage, literally a single attack would have boosted OG Demon to Ludoshel's level.
Mael used weapon in the past same for prime Meliodas so they should get the multiplier toobut does have the ability to amplify their attack power, while Mael/Estarossa can imbue his fists with Darkness/Light for Killing Saucer and did use a weapon at one point (just not in the series). Should they be given the amp?
Do you think that assault mode multipliers should be applied for every version of Meliodas?ByAsura:
Can you explain what you think should be done here in easy to understand manners please?
Makes sense, was just trying my luck
Good night
I am the wrong person to ask.Do you think that assault mode multipliers should be applied for every version of Meliodas?
Better to lowball
What do you think?Do you think that assault mode multipliers should be applied for every version of Meliodas?
Speedster chill.. it's better than nothing.
This is simply part 1 of 3, so I won't be making the changes yet.ByAsura:
Can you explain what you think should be done here in easy to understand manners please?
With the echament multipliers of course would is scale to durability since they can block with it?This is simply part 1 of 3, so I won't be making the changes yet.
I'll finish up the sandbox and show everyone the new AP values.
It’s possible however Prime mael should have it since he had a sword in the pastDo they commonly use a weapon?: Elizabeth never uses a weapon, but does have the ability to amplify their attack power, while Mael/Estarossa can imbue his fists with Darkness/Light for Killing Saucer and did use a weapon at one point (just not in the series). Should they be given the amp?
Sorry, can you repeat this? I can't really understand what you're saying.With the echament multipliers of course would is scale to durability since they can block with it?
Will you add enchantment Multipliers to your sandbox? Next when can enchantment multipliers be used for durability in the scaling chain?There is no Prime Mael. But sure, I'll give him it.
Sorry, can you repeat this? I can't really understand what you're saying.
Can I get an example? Also are you ok with DK zeldris scaling to his FC attack and base Meliodas being at least 2x stronger than him which was very evident.Yes.
When other characters withstand them.
But that’s not fair you just said it was weaker than Then him everyone believed you with no proof but head canon. Just say Meliodas scales above the FC and is at least 2x stronger than his first form in base considering how bad he wrecked him. Would that scale ON 10x AM Meliodas? That would be impressive.The One Escanor tanking Assault Mode Meliodas' destroyer-amped attacks.
No. Which was so evident that literally nobody here agreed with you.
I gave plenty of evidence, and people agreed with it.But that’s not fair you just said it was weaker than Then him everyone believed you with no proof but head canon.
Same debunked logic, of course.Just say Meliodas scales above the FC and is at least 2x stronger than his first form in base considering how bad he wrecked him.
He already scales higher.Would that scale ON 10x AM Meliodas? That would be impressive.
Also shouldn’t DK Meliodas be 2x stronger than the cast since he would have one shot them many times of it wasn’t for King and Ludoceil sacrificing themselves to save them? Any luck with finding other multipliers for nnt?I gave plenty of evidence, and people agreed with it.
Writing it off as head canon for the thousandth time doesn't make you any more correct than the last 999 times.
Same debunked logic, of course.
He already scales higher.
Double standard. When I use head canon I am reprimanded but when you use it everyone is ok with it? So I am the bad guy for calling it out?Writing it off as head canon for the thousandth time doesn't make you any more correct than the last 999 times.
DK Meliodas is already 4x stronger than the main cast.Also shouldn’t DK Meliodas be 2x stronger than the cast since he would have one shot them many times of it wasn’t for King and Ludoceil sacrificing themselves to save them?
No more than before.Any luck with finding other multipliers for nnt?
I chided you because you literally had no evidence at all. It's not really head canon if you have a lot of evidence to support a claim.Double standard. When I use head canon I am reprimanded but when you use it everyone is ok with it?
Nice head canon. Not the stuff you like to call head canon either, actual head canon.
You're not the bad guy, your counter-arguments were just terrible.So I am the bad guy for calling it out?
I mean like shouldn’t he be 2x mael and stuff being 160 teratons then scale his DK Zeldris form and post purgatory base Meliodas to it? Since they scale way above these characters in your final nnt scaling you said ban was 4x FTL for dodging DK Meliodas attacks that could blitz Mael. Speaking of which can’t we do calcs on blitzing Ludoceil using flash?DK Meliodas is already 4x stronger than the main cast.
No more than before.
I chided you because you literally had no evidence at all. It's not really head canon if you have a lot of evidence to support a claim.
You're not the bad guy, your counter-arguments were just terrible.
I could counter this (namely DK Zeldris himself implies it isn't the case, and had very little magic), but I'll just say that it'd actually lower the scaling chain considerably.I mean like shouldn’t he be 2x mael and stuff being 160 teratons then scale his DK Zeldris form and post purgatory base Meliodas to it?
No, that was the old scaling.Since they scale way above these characters in your final nnt scaling you said ban was 4x FTL for dodging DK Meliodas attacks that could blitz Mael.
Depends on whether or not he was using it during the blitz.Speaking of which can’t we do calcs on blitzing Ludoceil using flash?
Make him at least 2x stronger than Zeldris from one shotting him since I think I saw that isn’t what oneshotting rules. That should work. Any progress on sandbox? What should we do with first form DK Zeldris durability he tanks a lot of attacks(one we already know so I won’t say it again)I could counter this, but I'll just say that it'd actually lower the scaling chain considerably.
See, DK Meliodas upscales 4x to DK Zeldris and co via Meliodas.
So, if you scaled DK Zeldris to DK Meliodas, then you wouldn't have a massive 4x multiplier. You'd just have DK Meliodas scaling directly to someone stronger than Mael.
No, that was the old scaling.
I said Meliodas was due to 2nd Mark. Ban's just comparable to him in speed, and can keep up with DK Meliodas.
Depends on whether or not he was using it during the blitz.
Anyway, let's not get concerned with speed in this thread about AP.
It's not one-shotting rules, it's what a person on this wiki is failing to get accepted.Make him at least 2x stronger than Zeldris from one shotting him since I think I saw that isn’t what oneshotting rules.
Yes.Any progress on sandbox?
What?What should we do with first form DK Zeldris durability he tanks a lot of attacks(one we already know so I won’t say it again)
He tanks his FC(which already has a lot of contention right now) and he tanks Meliodas lostavnne and punches and also tanks the combine technique with lostavnne and arc which should be a 10x amp so how should we scale his durability and thoughts that scale above him?It's not one-shotting rules, it's what a person on this wiki is failing to get accepted.
We don't upscale based on one-shotting (outside of comparing character ratings versus threads. i.e, someone who's one megaton could one-shot someone who's 100 kilotons in a versus match), otherwise tons of characters would be way stronger.
Yes.
What?
Yo Aether sent me this i made a translationWhy would Assault Mode multipliers apply for all of Meliodas' forms?
Currently byasura take request in official translation to confirm Assault mode multiplier (main problem multiplier), and above what speedster sent was translate by our one of expert japanese translator makai64100. But byasura still wait for confirmation from other translatorSo what should we do here exactly, and which staff members have thought what here?
« Expert » chillCurrently byasura take request in official translation to confirm Assault mode multiplier (main problem multiplier), and above what speedster sent was translate by our one of expert japanese translator makai64100. But byasura still wait for confirmation from other translator
Okay. I will try to help him out to get some help.Currently byasura take request in official translation to confirm Assault mode multiplier (main problem multiplier), and above what speedster sent was translate by our one of expert japanese translator makai64100. But byasura still wait for confirmation from other translator
Any luck finding someone?Okay. I will try to help him out to get some help.
What would the scaling chain look like with the AM multiplier being applied for all versions of Meliodas?I already addressed the Ark situation.
He didn't tank shit. It severely damaged him, and the normal ass Ark and non-Lostvayne-based attacks damage him a ton as well.
Surviving with extensive damage is not proof of high or even comparable durability.