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Natsuki Subaru VS Frisk

ShionAH said:
Cool doesn't matter as those city people didn't hate him in a unspeakable way.
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Dead sure Frisk wasn't hated as most people of the underworld were generally nice. Anyways, Subaru's manipulation count is still hundreds of times more also he did manage to get the support of the villagers who absolutely hated Emilia and any bad things that happened were almost always blamed on her till he intervened.
ShionAH said:
Pretty sure thats mind manipulation. She forces you to become her slave she doesn't force you to feel an emotion.
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No, her authority forces all emotions to be amplified. She has previously killed Subaru by amplifying his fear with another boys causing a chain reaction of infinite fear. This also extends to physical damage as she kills a city block of people by throwing a kid down all the while the crowd chanted for the kid to die since she forced her own emotions on them
ShionAH said:
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Lmao thats actually the one i was talking about, but yeah as you saw thats not how SI works
ShionAH said:
Frisk can still make them give up on fighting or just make him their ally.
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Making somebody your ally isnt considered a wincon as its usually mutual not to mention Subaru also has SI comparable to if not greater than Frisks
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
Dead sure Frisk wasn't hated as most people of the underworld were generally nice. Anyways, Subaru's manipulation count is still hundreds of times more also he did manage to get the support of the villagers who absolutely hated Emilia and any bad things that happened were almost always blamed on her till he intervened.
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Dude. Humans ******* tortured them for years. They hated frisk.
SatellaTheWoE said:
Both are negated fra
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Its not on the profile. I am ******* out man.
 
ShionAH said:
Dude. Humans ******* tortured them for years. They hated frisk.
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Interesting lore, I will finish undertale first. But thats still a much lower count than Subaru's so at best i will allow them to be equal
ShionAH said:
Its not on the profile. I am ******* out man.
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It doesn't necessarily need to be on the profile when the feats are quite blatant not to mention the RZ profiles are out dated af, they are getting revisions
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
Interesting lore, I will finish undertale first. But thats still a much lower count than Subaru's so at best i will allow them to be equal
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They also had 6 souls and 7th is enough for them to escape their torment. But frisk still influenced them
SatellaTheWoE said:
It doesn't necessarily need to be on the profile when the feats are quite blatant not to mention the RZ profiles are out dated af, they are getting revisions
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No. Thats not how it works. We look at the profiles and looks like he doesnt have it so. You are kinda breaking the rules rn
 
ShionAH said:
They also had 6 souls and 7th is enough for them to escape their torment. But frisk still influenced them
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Yeah i know
ShionAH said:
No. Thats not how it works. We look at the profiles and looks like he doesnt have it so. You are kinda breaking the rules rn
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Its not unusual for feats and references to be used from places not listed as the profiles arent being constantly updated and are thus usally behind or missing some information. A good example is how a lot of Ainz's haxes aren't listed but are still usable in his matches
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
Its not unusual for feats and references to be used from places not listed as the profiles arent being constantly updated and are thus usally behind or missing some information. A good example is how a lot of Ainz's haxes aren't listed but are still usable in his matches
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Thats not suppose to happen though. Thats literally rule breaking.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
This is Peak determination, not the Key in each we are using.
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You are trolling. Wtf?? I am out man go ahead use powers and resistances that are not on the profile neither on any CRT

"while Frisk is with Immense Determination (Varies from 9-B to 9-A, at least 8-B with Immense Determination)."
 
ShionAH said:
You are trolling. Wtf?? I am out man go ahead use powers and resistances that are not on the profile neither on any CRT

"while Frisk is with Immense Determination (Varies from 9-B to 9-A, at least 8-B with Immense Determination)."
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Immense determination and peak determination are different keys
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
You can whine about it but the profiles are there for more of a general idea than a 100% accurate description of everything the character can possibly do.
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Sadly thats just now hot the site works. You cannot just add powers mid thread, what can he do about sleep hax btw?
SatellaTheWoE said:
Immense determination and peak determination are different keys
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Hmm alright then, what about sleep hax?
 
ShionAH said:
You are trolling. Wtf?? I am out man go ahead use powers and resistances that are not on the profile neither on any CRT

"while Frisk is with Immense Determination (Varies from 9-B to 9-A, at least 8-B with Immense Determination)."
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Not reading Peak determination here lol
And Frisk should't even have that power because Asriel already had feelings, Frisk Just SI him but whatever.
 
Ignore the to mention.

Btw, i think Frisk have a advantage against Subaru, that being Subaru won't remember Frisk deaths, but Frisk wiil remember every time Subaru dies and his own reloads.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Ignore the to mention.

Btw, i think Frisk have a advantage against Subaru, that being Subaru won't remember Frisk deaths, but Frisk wiil remember every time Subaru dies and his own reloads.
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Why wouldn't he remember them?
 
ShionAH said:
He doesnt have Acasuality 1. What can Subaru do about sleep manipulation?
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Subaru is going to get Acausality type 1. Beatrice will wake Subaru up as someone else mentioned. Also, how does the sleep manipulation work?
 
Fezzih_007 said:
No exactly, since Beatrice is Optimal equipament.

Why?
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1. Beatrice will be added as standard equipment actually.

2. Subaru being able to remember people after the timeline has been manipulated via causality manipulation is enough to qualify for Type 1, along with him obviously remembering stuff after resets.

It is actually for a similar reason that Frisk has Acausality Type 1.
 
This threads is making me remember the time someone made Goku vs Ryuko If, and a guy as saying that Ryuko wins because of abilities that she don't have on profile.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
I think they altering memories, not actually change It the past, If that's as the case, Rem and everyone that as eaten for glutony should have disappered, not entered a coma.
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They did alter the past.

For example, when the White Whale got rid of Rem. Not only did no one remember her, but all evidence of her even existing in the first place was erased. Like her room in Roswaal's mansion was gone.
 
I think this match should just be called inconclusive. It was supposed to have already concluded as that anyway.
 
ShionAH said:
Seems like Natsukis profile sucks ass so yeah I agree tbh.
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It could definitely be a lot better. It's just an older page that hasn't received the best care. He's missing a few basic things like Social Influencing and Supernatural Willpower lmfao. When those are some of his most used and most notable abilities.
 
Phoenks said:
It could definitely be a lot better. It's just an older page that hasn't received the best care. He's missing a few basic things like Social Influencing and Supernatural Willpower lmfao. When those are some of his most used and most notable abilities.
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Alright then this can be closed and added to the profiles.
 
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