natsu vs Goku

[LordGinSama]

Voting son Goku.
Goku is the same man capable of matching and surpassing a dude who consistently avoided roshi from touching him for 3 years straight. Goku can also read air currents to read people's moves, is easuly able to read a master assassin's entire moveset just by briefly throwing hands. And predict as well as detect afterimages that fool people who can already detect and predict after images.
I just don't see natsu hitting Goku in a vital consistently. However natsu can definitely win. 1 fire attack and Goku turns into a fillet mignon.

Thanks for making me hungry bastard

 

[GodlyCharmander]

No really.... he can hit goku because he has several kilometres in range

Doesn't matter due to location, but Goku has, and can deal with planetary range

 

[Livinmeme]

Doesn't matter due to location, but Goku has, and can deal with planetary range

... you didnt undertand my point rigth?? natsu having good range is important because a atack of natsu will desintrigate goku, while natsu still can tank goku atacks

 

[Livinmeme]

Also pretty sure that goku wont go full power against natsu at the beggining of the figth

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Natsu: 6 votes
Goku: 5 votes

Natsu is dangerously close to grace given his reasoning is "fire attack goes brrrrr" when it's not hitting Goku anytime soon.

Updated. Grace has been avoided. But Goku needs 10 votes.

... you didnt undertand my point rigth?? natsu having good range is important because a atack of natsu will desintrigate goku, while natsu still can tank goku atacks

I did. The range is irrelevant because Natsu can't/won't vuse it in the place they're fighting.

It is also irrelevant because Goku has the skill to deal with FAR better range.

 

[Nierre]

I doubt any of them would.

They'd probably feel each other out throughout the fight, and get more serious as the fight progresses

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Also pretty sure that goku wont go full power against natsu at the beggining of the figth

Same applies to Natsu, so I don't see your point.

 

[Livinmeme]

Same applies to Natsu, so I don't see your point.

Because natsu will go full power first because he sees that his atacks arent doing jackshit to goku??? while goku senses a guy who is 5x times weaker than him

Can locate others by reading their ki, detect malicious intent, difference in power levels, and beings in different dimensions

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Thanks for making me hungry bastard

Goku's job is to eat, not be eaten. That's cursed.

Because natsu will go full power first because he sees that his atacks arent doing jackshit to goku??? while goku senses a guy who is 5x times weaker than him

Acting like Goku won't instantly feel the fire that will turn him into a double triple bossy deluxe.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Goku's job is to eat, not be eaten. That's cursed.

Acting like Goku won't instantly feel the fire that will turn him into a double triple bossy deluxe.

Gokus when they see the KFC Deep Frier

 

[SuperStar]

What are Goku’s win cons?

 

[Livinmeme]

Acting like Goku won't instantly feel the fire that will turn him into a double triple bossy deluxe.

Natsu doesnt start with full fire power, wich gives the question of how hot is natsu casual fire

 

[Livinmeme]

What are Goku’s win cons?

Punching really hard

 

[Livinmeme]

No Limits Fallacy. Concepts are scalable, concepts are complex on their own. Being able to burn ONE concept does not equal being able to burn any concept.

Oh also that isnt even true to begin, he isnt burning concepts he is literally burning concepts manipulation

 

[Spinoirr]

clearly Natsu is universe level+ like my brother says, so let's make him fight super Goku

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Best main character in Big Three FRA

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Oh also that isnt even true to begin, he isnt burning concepts he is literally burning concepts manipulation

literally committing a NLF again.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

also, the reasons godly and fluffy provided are more than enough to convince me to vote goku, if my vote already wasnt counted

 

[Spinoirr]

So what are the votes?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Natsu: 6
Goku: 7

 

[Livinmeme]

literally committing a NLF again.

What??? he is burning CM, he should be able to burn CM that is what was literally agreeded here

Oh also i think i baited some kids so hard that they telled to KMS and telling me disabled... in roblox

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Best main character in Big Three FRA

DBZA Zarbon: ".... Gonna have to be a little more specific."

Some consider Natsu as part of another Big Three, so... Yeah

 

[GodlyCharmander]

What are Goku’s win cons?

Skill stomp,
better versatility,
huge AP advantage.

Natsu has flamethrowers and an attitude. It's still a valid wincon for Natsu, btw.

EDIT: He also has a multiplier that makes his AP and Speed x4. His AP is still lower, but his speed is 4x.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

OK i asked mitch if the 200 mil cel does scale to his aura and mitch said yes and it scales to fire

 

[GodlyCharmander]

OK i asked mitch if the 200 mil cel does scale to his aura and mitch said yes and it scales to fire

He's not using it due to location.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

He's not using it due to location.

to his aura he won't but to his fire yes

 

[GodlyCharmander]

to his aura he won't but to his fire yes

Probably, yes. But Goku has ways to deal with that.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Probably, yes. But Goku has ways to deal with that.

Goku being near natsu's fire is dangerous enough although as you said goku would have ways i'm just pointing out that it would be bad for goku

 

[Rabbit2002]

Goku FRA

 

[Livinmeme]

Pretty sure that giving such a huge advatange to goku via location isnt allowed

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Small correction, which form of Natsu was never clarified, standard battle assumptions would be peak 100YQ Natsu, which is Ignia's Power+FDKM, which is 11.04 Yottatons

 

[Livinmeme]

So..... the only advantage of goku is pratically useless?? yeah if they dont change the keys to a weaker, natsu just burns goku down like a steak

 

[Spinoirr]

Pre-Elentear DF Natsu is being used

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Also there's a bit of a misconception about Natsu's heat here, yes it is true that his passive heat does not rest at 200 Million Degrees, but that's only for his Base Form, Natsu reaches these heats with his peak Base Fire, so any of the 5-A versions of Natsu would be possessing an aura of heat way above this level

Peak Base Natsu was incapable of even effecting Aldoron's Plants, but his passive Dragon Force heat could vaporize his Plants

 

[JED]

After what Mitch said Natsu FRA

 

[Spinoirr]

stronger then 2.7 Yottatons

BtW Natsu is this strong in this version

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

BtW Natsu is this strong in this version

Actually he's 5.52 Yottatons

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Pretty sure that giving such a huge advatange to goku via location isnt allowed

It is, this is preventing a stomp match, and is hindering Goku's flight as well.

If Natsu can just use his passive aura, Goku gets cooked, and has no wincon.

 

[Livinmeme]

It is, this is preventing a stomp match, and is hindering Goku's flight as well.

If Natsu can just use his passive aura, Goku gets cooked, and has no wincon.

If a match needs to break the rules to work, then is a mismatch

 

[GodlyCharmander]

If a match needs to break the rules to work, then is a mismatch

It doesn't break any rules, you're probably misinformed.