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Nasuverse Discussion Board 26
- Thread starter DragonEmperor23
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>fran
>too pure don't lewd
My exact thoughts
>too pure don't lewd
My exact thoughts
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First row: Saber alter, Gawain, Siegfried, D'eon, Suzuka, Nero
Second row: Rama, Lancelot, I dunno who that is, Emiya, Pucci Emiya, Tristan
Third row: Lancuria alter, Cu, Eliz, Fionn, Medusa lily, Li
Fourth row: Astolfo, Anne & Mary, Dunno, Martha, Helena, Casgil
Fifth row: Edison (I think), Nursery, dunno, Medea lily, Kiritsugu, Carmilla
Sixth row: Yan Qing, Stheno, dunno, Ibaraki, Penthesilea, Tamacat
Last row: Fran, Beowulf, dunno, Zerkerlot, Big Medusa, Hessain Lobo
Second row: Rama, Lancelot, I dunno who that is, Emiya, Pucci Emiya, Tristan
Third row: Lancuria alter, Cu, Eliz, Fionn, Medusa lily, Li
Fourth row: Astolfo, Anne & Mary, Dunno, Martha, Helena, Casgil
Fifth row: Edison (I think), Nursery, dunno, Medea lily, Kiritsugu, Carmilla
Sixth row: Yan Qing, Stheno, dunno, Ibaraki, Penthesilea, Tamacat
Last row: Fran, Beowulf, dunno, Zerkerlot, Big Medusa, Hessain Lobo
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Now I'm curious what role she's gonna play.Makkurona said:
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Abstract 2 is glorified Immortality 8 last time I checked.
Nonexistent 1 needs Void Manip to do anything to them.
Nonexistent 1 needs Void Manip to do anything to them.
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So anyone want to continuing the last discussion here?
As for Sieg vs Karna tho, i don't think his armor can't stand too much from Karna attack
As for Sieg vs Karna tho, i don't think his armor can't stand too much from Karna attack
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Why dont you continue it in a vs thread? Well, Apocrypha already shows that Siegfried-Sieg has trouble against Karna NP spamming. It's basically depends on which condition. If both as indefinite mana supply, Karna wins through nukes. With regular mana supply, Siegfried wins through attrition.
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... Wait, why? Why would you ever think that? I keep seeing people bring this up but what backs this idea?
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About Abstract 2, it depends on what concept they embody.John985 said:
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Not really. Normal Siegfried maybe, but they would remain in an endless deadlock if it is Sieg and he didn't have his time limit. That's the only way the battle is ending - that or Vasavi.
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... Hence why I said it would remain an endless Deadlock if it was Sieg and he didn't have time limit, rather than Siegfried.
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Even if its servant Siegfried, does he stand a chance against Karna, no? That what i'm thinking.....especially after saw Siegfried vs Karna thread by Knight
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If it's normal Karna, yes. People forget that Karna at the end of the novel has Grail-level mana generation, which is why he can spam stuff.
If its both summoned normally in a War, it'll mostly be draws unless Siegfried can force him to use so much mana his Master just dies. Or Karna takes a risk and VASAVI.
Like, Siegfried is a horrifingly effective stone wall. I feel this gets forgotten.
If its both summoned normally in a War, it'll mostly be draws unless Siegfried can force him to use so much mana his Master just dies. Or Karna takes a risk and VASAVI.
Like, Siegfried is a horrifingly effective stone wall. I feel this gets forgotten.
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Problem is, Karna pulls VS and that's that. GG
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In an insolated battle, that works yes. In a normal grail war where they aren't the last people?
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Fair point.
In that case they both stall the shit out of each other because K&K and AoF
In that case they both stall the shit out of each other because K&K and AoF
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Like, even a first rate Magus would end up more or less immobilized by Karna trying a little hard. His main limitation is how mana intensive K&K, limiting him severely.
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Super Saiyan God Karna might be able to kill Sefar, we'd have to check.
Oh god, making some of my favorite servants fight each other? That's a great idea!
Oh god, making some of my favorite servants fight each other? That's a great idea!
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Actually it's Karna RojoKnightOfSunlight said:
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Didn't Full Power Sefar scale somewhere around Amaterasu, who scale somewhere above CCC Playables?
And they scale slightly above Post-Mooncell BB who has Potnia Theron, which scales her above most gods, likely the Hindu Gods as well.
And they scale slightly above Post-Mooncell BB who has Potnia Theron, which scales her above most gods, likely the Hindu Gods as well.
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Probably a hamburgerZERO7772 said:
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Probably still Void.
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Sadly still having an Unknown on her profile instead of a proper Tier.KnightOfSunlight said:
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Just saw it, but yeah, kinda like that.ZERO7772 said:
In fact, I made a rough scaling chain for later discussions, after Iapitus gets his free time.
It goes like: Beast III < Kiara < Tiamat < Weakened Sefar < Vasavi Shakti < Hindu Gods < Super Karna < Arjuna Alter < Mooncell = Pre-Mooncell BB < Lv.999 Meltryllis < Goetia < Buddha < Post-Mooncell BB < CCC Playables < Amaterasu = Full Power Sefar
