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Nasuverse Discussion Board 22
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I mean, probably, I think.
They are the Angles closest to God, and Michael's name means "Who is like God". Metatron in Jewish lore was said to be one of the most powerful entities, maybe even second, naturally behind only God himself.
Also, I believe that to this in Catholicism, Michel is commonly treated as the most powerful entity that isn't God himself, or one of his aspects.
Angles are incredibly powerful, yes.
They are the Angles closest to God, and Michael's name means "Who is like God". Metatron in Jewish lore was said to be one of the most powerful entities, maybe even second, naturally behind only God himself.
Also, I believe that to this in Catholicism, Michel is commonly treated as the most powerful entity that isn't God himself, or one of his aspects.
Angles are incredibly powerful, yes.
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It's really hard to measure how powerful certain angels are because there are so many texts that tell different story. But, archangel Michael is definitely the strongest being after God. After that it's impossible. You could put Lucifer, Samael, some of the good archangels. Azazel etc.
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Having sex with a lot of men.
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There's a number of Servants who have EX rank Riding. That being like Rider (Red Hare) and Rider (Quetzalcoatl), as do Assassin (MHX). There's also others like Violet from Fate/Extra CCC Foxtail and supposedly Ivan from LB1 also having EX.
But they all have their reasons for EX.
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Probably? Dragon Riding apparently requires a different kind of ability than the normal riding skill.
The only reasons Quetz can ride them is she's a god of dragons, and even Martha can also ride dragons while having A++ rank Riding. Although I assume that has to do with having Tarasque as her mount.
The only reasons Quetz can ride them is she's a god of dragons, and even Martha can also ride dragons while having A++ rank Riding. Although I assume that has to do with having Tarasque as her mount.
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It's a possibility, as Ivan's mammoth is also a Divine Beast for what I've been told.
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Would the throne of heroes be able to copy or House Gods? Like, The One Above All pre-retcon level characters? No, right?
What if that being has the potential for Tier 0 God stuff but never learned how to do it on command— meaning they still have that hidden power and strength in them but can't all on it willingly?
What if that being has the potential for Tier 0 God stuff but never learned how to do it on command— meaning they still have that hidden power and strength in them but can't all on it willingly?
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Maybe? Some Saints Graphs can get damaged by using enough power to destroy a meteor but I don't think the limits of the highest quality Saint Graphs were ever said.
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It's not soul manip, info analysis would be a better term for what it does. The Throne records legends, it doesn't stick the souls of the Heroes inside of it.
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Talking about souls in a way, does anyone remember something in relation to Servants being able to fight while in Spirit Form or them being able to harm other Servants who are in said form?
I was told of this by Ever yesterday and I think someone here may have said this a while back but IDK who nor when it happened. Seems like a good topic to talk about as this may possibly even get rid of the "cannot fight in spirit form" weakness, but I wanted to ask if anyone here knows when and/or where that happened by any chance?
I was told of this by Ever yesterday and I think someone here may have said this a while back but IDK who nor when it happened. Seems like a good topic to talk about as this may possibly even get rid of the "cannot fight in spirit form" weakness, but I wanted to ask if anyone here knows when and/or where that happened by any chance?
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But it removes the soul from the cycle of reincarnation though.
I mean, for my stuff, I could just say that it doesn't move the Soul itself but warps laws and the astral plane and shit around the Soul to make it exempt from those phenomena however they come about. Everything else is just info manipulation and creation/copying Souls into whatever period they're summoned into. At worse, I'd say the Throne of Heroes and the Counterforce could recreate the circumstances that created the characters soul if they can't manipulate the Soul's building blocks/molecules/pieces or whatever.
I mean, for my stuff, I could just say that it doesn't move the Soul itself but warps laws and the astral plane and shit around the Soul to make it exempt from those phenomena however they come about. Everything else is just info manipulation and creation/copying Souls into whatever period they're summoned into. At worse, I'd say the Throne of Heroes and the Counterforce could recreate the circumstances that created the characters soul if they can't manipulate the Soul's building blocks/molecules/pieces or whatever.
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Afaik, the fighting in spirit form argument comes from the UBW anime where Cu shanks Shirou while in spirit form before materializing and Archer doing the same when catching Rin.
Problem with the first is that the VN says that Cu materializes first and then stabs Shirou. Can't remember the second but its probably different in the VN than the anime.
Problem with the first is that the VN says that Cu materializes first and then stabs Shirou. Can't remember the second but its probably different in the VN than the anime.
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I see.
Well in that case, there goes the spirit form weakness being thrown out thing.
Well in that case, there goes the spirit form weakness being thrown out thing.
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I did not know this.Amexim said:
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It's what the wiki said. Lol.
I mean, it makes sense, if the soul is the basis for the spirit, then you can't have that spirit fighting its reincarnation. Or else we get some of the horrible shit that happened to Shiro when fighting Archer. Bad bad headaches and memories from a life you haven't even lived yet.
Someone make that a fanfic plot point. You're welcome.
I mean, it makes sense, if the soul is the basis for the spirit, then you can't have that spirit fighting its reincarnation. Or else we get some of the horrible shit that happened to Shiro when fighting Archer. Bad bad headaches and memories from a life you haven't even lived yet.
Someone make that a fanfic plot point. You're welcome.
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I feel like people forgot the next thread was already posted. Or maybe you all just wanna exhaust the left over comments.
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And what Amexim said is true. Copying information is what the Moon Cell does, while the Throne of Heroes pluck the soul of heroes from the cycle of reincarnation. So they don't go to Akasha to be scrubbed clean and go into a new body, rather they are eternally preserved in a place outside the stream of time.
Any servant that is summoned is nothing more than a fabricated soul that is then made to take on the characteristics of the Servant's true soul, a near perfect copy. That is why the third magic of the Einzberns, even if incomplete, was necessary to make the Holy Grail, partially incarnating the soul.
Any servant that is summoned is nothing more than a fabricated soul that is then made to take on the characteristics of the Servant's true soul, a near perfect copy. That is why the third magic of the Einzberns, even if incomplete, was necessary to make the Holy Grail, partially incarnating the soul.
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I mean, we can exhaust it first.
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Nice to see that Shirou didn't lose his Harem powers when he became a servant kekJohn985 said:
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An RP thread I would actually participate in
