Nasuverse CRT : additions to Gilgamesh and various Servants

[John985]

I think BB and Kazuradrop.

 

[Orioreeem]

^
Also another one from Kazu would be Dream manipulation

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Few more resistances for authority that should preferably be put in the op so that mods can evaluate it without going through the whole thread.
Explosion Manipulation
Power Modification
Power Absorption
Unholy Manipulation
Chain Manipulation
Supernatural Luck
Retrocognition
Homing Attacks
Fragrance Manipulation
Weather Manipulation

Added.

 

[Antvasima]

@CrimsonStarFallen @Theglassman12

Would you be willing to help evaluate this please?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Can anyone tell me where the "authority can resist authority" comes from? I have searched in fate but i did not find a single statement saying so.

 

[Antvasima]

@Everything12 @Duedate8898 @Planck69 @KingTempest @QuasiYuri @UchihaSlayer96

Your help would also be appreciated with evaluating this.

 

[KingTempest]

sorry but i am extremely unqualified to evaluate this

 

[speedster352]

I agree with the op

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Can anyone tell me where the "authority can resist authority" comes from? I have searched in fate but i did not find a single statement saying so.

sigh....i will just let it go i guess.

 

[Antvasima]

@Everything12 @Duedate8898 @UchihaSlayer96 @Eficiente

Your help with evaluating this would be appreciated.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Why does Goetia not have Authority?

Because he doesn't have Authority of the Beast, for some odd reason.

Rest of this is fine, I suppose, with the exception of Illya having Immeasurable speed. That's just time travel.

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Because he doesn't have Authority of the Beast, for some odd reason.

Rest of this is fine, I suppose, with the exception of Illya having Immeasurable speed. That's just time travel.

Because it's not written in the material?

Alright, just time travel seems fine.

 

[Antvasima]

What Crimson accepted here is probably fine to apply. Thank you for helping out. It is very appreciated.

 

[Vietthai96]

Because he doesn't have Authority of the Beast, for some odd reason.

Rest of this is fine, I suppose, with the exception of Illya having Immeasurable speed. That's just time travel.

I'm still disagree with Cosmic Awareness

 

[Antvasima]

I'm still disagree with Cosmic Awareness

@CrimsonStarFallen

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

As a note: I've added Analytical Prediction for Achilles.

And for Ten Crowns is it would get a Conceptual Manipulation via Subjective Reality? even though it's nullification but it is via Subjective Reality hax, of course that would add more explanation as well.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Because it's not written in the material?

Or in his profile yeah. It's really weird but there's probably some argument for why he doesn't have it.

I'm still disagree with Cosmic Awareness

Why?

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Or in his profile yeah. It's really weird but there's probably some argument for why he doesn't have it.

May i know what is it?

Also

As a note: I've added Analytical Prediction for Achilles.

And for Ten Crowns is it would get a Conceptual Manipulation via Subjective Reality? even though it's nullification but it is via Subjective Reality hax, of course that would add more explanation as well.

What do you think?

 

[Vietthai96]

Why?

I still disagree with Cosmic Awareness. Texture is not universe in a literal sense, it is just a layer of Earth, however infinite in size. Cosmic Awareness require you to aware everything in the UNIVERSE. So no, Gil can only aware of everything on Earth

And for Ten Crowns is it would get a Conceptual Manipulation via Subjective Reality? even though it's nullification but it is via Subjective Reality hax, of course that would add more explanation as well.

No, it is just happen that he can null ability that is concept by nature, he not directly destroy any concept with it

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

I still disagree with Cosmic Awareness. Texture is not universe in a literal sense, it is just a layer of Earth, however infinite in size. Cosmic Awareness require you to aware everything in the UNIVERSE. So no, Gil can only aware of everything on Earth

That's not how a Cosmic Awareness of this site works. It was noted that things that qualify for Cosmic Awareness are being able to sense others and detect potential threats across an interstellar, galactic or even universal scale, it doesn't have to sense the whole universe, it allows different specific case. The point is that Cosmic Awareness can be achieved by being able to sense tiny things at far great distances. Interstellar, galactic and universal are just examples, Gil was able to sense tiny things at infinite distances on textures that are literally enough to qualify for Cosmic Awareness. Basically it's just a cosmological difference matter.

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

No, it is just happen that he can null ability that is concept by nature, he not directly destroy any concept with it

Well, it might fall under the Power null ability, but the reason is that Gil's Ten Crowns are the same as BB which is a form of conceptual magecraft allowing him to have a Conceptual Manipulation abilities.

 

[Antvasima]

That's not how a Cosmic Awareness of this site works. It was noted that things that qualify for Cosmic Awareness are being able to sense others and detect potential threats across an interstellar, galactic or even universal scale, it doesn't have to sense the whole universe, it allows different specific case. The point is that Cosmic Awareness can be achieved by being able to sense tiny things at far great distances. Interstellar, galactic and universal are just examples, Gil was able to sense tiny things at infinite distances on textures that are literally enough to qualify for Cosmic Awareness. Basically it's just a cosmological difference matter.

I suppose that seems to be a good point.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

That's not how a Cosmic Awareness of this site works. It was noted that things that qualify for Cosmic Awareness are being able to sense others and detect potential threats across an interstellar, galactic or even universal scale, it doesn't have to sense the whole universe, it allows different specific case. The point is that Cosmic Awareness can be achieved by being able to sense tiny things at far great distances. Interstellar, galactic and universal are just examples, Gil was able to sense tiny things at infinite distances on textures that are literally enough to qualify for Cosmic Awareness. Basically it's just a cosmological difference matter.

This makes sense.

What do you think?

Probably less concept hax and more power null via subjective reality.

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Probably less concept hax and more power null via subjective reality.

what if the reason is replaced with this

Well, it might fall under the Power null ability, but the reason is that Gil's Ten Crowns are the same as BB which is a form of conceptual magecraft allowing him to have a Conceptual Manipulation abilities.

Is it still not enough to get a concept hax?

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

oh if it is conceptual magecraft then sure, concept hax is fine.

 

[Vietthai96]

That's not how a Cosmic Awareness of this site works. It was noted that things that qualify for Cosmic Awareness are being able to sense others and detect potential threats across an interstellar, galactic or even universal scale, it doesn't have to sense the whole universe, it allows different specific case. The point is that Cosmic Awareness can be achieved by being able to sense tiny things at far great distances. Interstellar, galactic and universal are just examples, Gil was able to sense tiny things at infinite distances on textures that are literally enough to qualify for Cosmic Awareness. Basically it's just a cosmological difference matter.

Again, he still has no feat for the basic feat of sensing something outside of Earth, let alone planetary range. Infinite distance, but still limited to earth, how that can be considering as "cosmic"????

Well, it might fall under the Power null ability, but the reason is that Gil's Ten Crowns are the same as BB which is a form of conceptual magecraft allowing him to have a Conceptual Manipulation abilities.

he still not manipulating concept by all mean. Hmm let see, you can listed Ten Crown as Conceptual Ability and link it to Conceptual Manip

 

[Excaliburhuman]

Darius Ainsworth : High-Godly Regeneration and Resurrection (resurrecting and regenerating his body and concept to another container after his original body was destroyed by Miyu's Origin Bullet).

First, Darius and Julian probably should have seperate keys/profiles, but that probably requries a different CRT.
Second, it was technically Kuro who actually used the origin bullets, but I think she got erased alongside Illya so thats why people don't rember them and think it's Miyu who shot him. However, this doesn't really effect anything regarding this CRT since Darius still regenerated from Kuro's attack.
Finally, I am not sure if this qualifies as High Godly since he is regening from the thorns which wasn't erased.

 

[Adrianelloxd]

That's not how a Cosmic Awareness of this site works. It was noted that things that qualify for Cosmic Awareness are being able to sense others and detect potential threats across an interstellar, galactic or even universal scale, it doesn't have to sense the whole universe, it allows different specific case. The point is that Cosmic Awareness can be achieved by being able to sense tiny things at far great distances. Interstellar, galactic and universal are just examples, Gil was able to sense tiny things at infinite distances on textures that are literally enough to qualify for Cosmic Awareness. Basically it's just a cosmological difference matter.

Did Gilgamesh use SNI to know where to go exactly, to travel back to earth, after being flung like 1500 light-years away from it? I doubt there's a scan showing that's the case here but would make sense if not for another explanation. Could it count as cosmic awareness then?

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Again, he still has no feat for the basic feat of sensing something outside of Earth, let alone planetary range. Infinite distance, but still limited to earth, how that can be considering as "cosmic"????

He could see other universes though. being titled cosmic doesn't mean it has to be cosmic, it can be achieved through other cases like sensing people in other dimensions, far great distance etc.

he still not manipulating concept by all mean. Hmm let see, you can listed Ten Crown as Conceptual Ability and link it to Conceptual

Ten Crowns is a conceptual magecraft and he can use that ability, meaning he himself is capable of manipulating conceptual things.

Ten Crowns is also one of the authorities which is concept that governs nature and reality makes it an aspect of the world.

First, Darius and Julian probably should have seperate keys/profiles, but that probably requries a different CRT.
Second, it was technically Kuro who actually used the origin bullets, but I think she got erased alongside Illya so thats why people don't rember them and think it's Miyu who shot him. However, this doesn't really effect anything regarding this CRT since Darius still regenerated from Kuro's attack.
Finally, I am not sure if this qualifies as High Godly since he is regening from the thorns which wasn't erased.

He would get High Godly Regeneration and Immortality [Type 8] from the evidence shown, but type 8 immo is already listed on his profile.

Did Gilgamesh use SNI to know where to go exactly, to travel back to earth, after being flung like 1500 light-years away from it? I doubt there's a scan showing that's the case here but would make sense if not for another explanation. Could it count as cosmic awareness then?

Yes, he guided Illya who went to the past to know where to go exactly.

 

[Antvasima]

So what are the conclusions here so far?

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

So what are the conclusions here so far?

Only Goetia's Authority and Illya's immeasurable speed were not accepted. Cosmic Awareness is still being debated but it has been accepted by Crimson with a valid reason.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. What has been accepted here can probably be applied then, if there are no serious complaints.

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Well, probably this can be applied now.

@Antvasima could you unlock some profiles and pages?

And can someone help me to apply the stuffs in the OP especially the Authority section which I myself don't know an effective way to apply it.

 

[Vietthai96]

Now that talking about Gilgamesh, he should have Weapon Summoning, he practically summon weapons and all other shit from his treasures via Gate of Babylon. I forgot to add it in the previous CRT

 

[Antvasima]

@Antvasima could you unlock some profiles and pages?

Yes, but somebody needs to write a list of all the EXACTLY WORDED titles for the pages that you need me to unlock with my script.

And can someone help me to apply the stuffs in the OP especially the Authority section which I myself don't know an effective way to apply it.

Help with this would be appreciated, yes.

Now that talking about Gilgamesh, he should have Weapon Summoning, he practically summon weapons and all other shit from his treasures via Gate of Babylon. I forgot to add it in the previous CRT

Is that fine with the rest of you?

 

[Adrianelloxd]

Now that talking about Gilgamesh, he should have Weapon Summoning, he practically summon weapons and all other shit from his treasures via Gate of Babylon. I forgot to add it in the previous CRT

It's already listed under Weapon Control on Gilgamesh's profile, isn't it?

Also while we're on the topic of Gilgamesh. @CrystalValley There was mention of Gilgamesh possessing the Seventh Holy Scripture in another thread. If there is anything to back it up and let it be included alongside what's above, that'd be great if possible.

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Now that talking about Gilgamesh, he should have Weapon Summoning, he practically summon weapons and all other shit from his treasures via Gate of Babylon. I forgot to add it in the previous CRT

Okey, if it's fine.

Yes, but somebody needs to write a list of all the EXACTLY WORDED titles for the pages that you need me to unlock with my script.

Gilgamesh (Fate Series)

Playable Caster (Tamamo-no-Mae)

Playable Saber (Nero)

Playable Archer (No Name)

Kingprotea

Passionlip

Julian Ainsworth

BB (Fate/Extra CCC)

Lancer of Red (Karna)

Illyasviel von Einzbern (Fate/Kaleid)

Berserker (Penthesilea)

Goetia

Kama (Fate Series)

Kiara Sessyoin

Meltlilith

Avenger (Demon King Nobunaga)

Rider of Red (Achilles)

Caster (Merlin)

All Authority users (This is too much, I can't write them one by one)

Servant Physiology

 

[Antvasima]

I unlocked the pages that you listed, but I cannot unlock the Authority users if I do not receive proper instructions first.

 

[Antvasima]

I can probably find and unlock the Tier 1 Nasuverse pages though. Would that be enough?

 

[Zencha9]

Yeah should there's a few exceptions but most of Authority users are tier 1