Naruto Uzumaki vs Sousuke Aizen

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Post Hagoromo Amp Naruto vs Fake Karakura Town Aizen to Fusion Aizen

Objective: Can Naruto talk no Jutsu Aizen or is he forced to put him down ?

No speed equalization but verses are equalized, In character. Both will have prior knowledge (Since Naruto is trying to talk to him). Reiatsu Crush has been erased from existence

Location: Karakura Town and Naruki City

Naruto:

Aizen:

Inconclusive:

Thought this would be a interesting match ? Not a simple fistcuffs but more of a way to test Naruto's and Aizen's intelligence, resolve and morals. Which is why this is a discussion rather than a versus thread. Of course if this doesn't work then it will be a fight

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Talk to him about what exactly?

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Naruto is talk no jutsuing him, obviously Naruto is in Ichigo's place during the Fake Karakura Town Arc. Aizen is trying to do what he did in Canon but Naruto is challenging him on that

 

[Lop222]

Naruto's Talk no jutsu dind't work on Madara.

So I doubt it works on Aizen

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

I mean, was Aizen ACTUALLY questioned personally ? And by someone who actually managed to understand him ? Ichigo DID understand Aizen by the end of their fight yet he never once tried to even bother with Aizen or weaken his will, he just trash talked and bullied him which made Aizen mad and completely lose his composure.

Naruto in here IS understanding Aizen and is actually trying to question him personally

...Also Naruto was focusing on Obito rather than Madara, with Madara he was just trying to fight him and by the end of all that Madara's will did weaken at the end by Hashirama after seeing what his goal lead to

 

[Naeblis495]

What does naruto hope to achieve here ? Aizen isn't weak minded like Obito and doesn't have multiple change of heart over 5 minutes of talking.

Aizen's only mental weakness is that he subconscioulsy want someone to defeat him because due to being so strong and smart, he never was met with any real set back , but naruto can't do that and that's not something that can be solved by talking anyway .

It's far more probable that aizen actually break naruto's mind with his genius intellect and overwhelming sexyness.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

What does naruto hope to achieve here ? Aizen isn't weak minded like Obito and doesn't have multiple change of heart over 5 minutes of talking.

Aizen's only mental weakness is that he subconscioulsy want someone to defeat him because due to being so strong and smart, he never was met with any real set back , but naruto can't do that and that's not something that can be solved by talking anyway .

It's far more probable that aizen actually break naruto's mind with his genius intellect and overwhelming sexyness.

Aizen isn't weak minded...

Proceeds to lose his composure pretty quickly against Dangai.

And for Obito's credit, Naruto literally had a counter for everything Obito said, and there's also the fact that it's not for five minutes, those two were at it for the whole war and it was basically Obito vs everyone cause Madara only helped physically and Obito already had his own doubts

And this is post Hagoromo amp, which means this Naruto is stronger than Aizen so he will still force Aizen in the same position everytime he tries anything funny due to the fact Naruto can read his intent.

 

[Naeblis495]

So a quick burst of anger because you finally experience defeat for the first time since , probably ever, is being weak minded ? he didn't turned his life around or switched sides over a little talk , unlike obito .

Aizen just have to flex his reiatsu and naruto die instantly . Karakura aizen already have the hogyoku implented in him , wich mean constant evolution and low godly . Naruto can't do anything .

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

And reminder that sometimes Naruto's Talk No Jutsu isnt just talking depending on the situation it is also beating the ever loving crap out of someone and then talking with them, case and point Neji, Gaara, Himself in the Shikamaru arc and Sasuke

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Naruto seals him.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Reiatsu flex isn't a victory, also the OP already prefixes that Naruto can beat Aizen, I'm already putting the Post Amp which is stronger tham those Aizens.So Aizen will not be able to evolve further.

Again, I already put that either Aizen will be talk no jutsu'ed or he gets rolfstomped and sealed by Urahara again

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Naruto seals him.

Pretty much, well, technically its Urahara

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

I mean Naruto can also seal, so Urahara isn't needed.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

He kinda needs Sasuke for it though so it's best to just trust Urahara on that, besides these versions of Aizen do have the seal already placed on him so he would just get sealed anyway. Speaking of which i forgot that in Fusion Aizen is actually unreasonable so he gets put down and sealed anyway

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

He has another sealing technique. He uses a shukaku enhanced Rasenshurikan to seal him

 

[Naeblis495]

He has another sealing technique. He uses a shukaku enhanced Rasenshurikan to seal him

that's not sealing , it's binding via magnetism . God aizen can teleport out of it .

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Oh right cause he has all the Tailed Beasts with him and he has prior knowledge of Aizen and the Hougyoku.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

that's not sealing , it's binding via magnetism . God aizen can teleport out of it .

It seals them in a sand pyramid.

 

[Naeblis495]

It seals them in a sand pyramid.

make a crt then , because it is not stated as sealing on his profile .

"Magnetism Manipulation (Can bind targets in place and immobilize them with Magnet Release)"

"Sage Art: Magnet Release Rasengan: A tailed beast skill whereby Naruto, using Shukaku's power, creates a Rasengan with similar markings to the beast's cursed seal and then smashes the sphere into his opponent in the same manner as a normal Rasengan. Upon being struck with this technique, the markings quickly spread across the target's body and bind them"

Anyway , Naruto ain't talking no jutsu Aizen . He can only do that to weak minded people .

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Alright then that's your stance...Except Naruto has Talk no Jutsu'ed strong minded people before but whatever

 

[Naeblis495]

if they change their life around instantly when a 15 years old tell them an elaborate version of "bro ,trust me" ,then they're clearly not strong minded .

Anyway , i've stated my POV , i'm out now . Will be back later probably .

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Also speaking of which I just noticed that Naruto's intelligence section in his profile actually lacks the talk no Jutsu part where he literally can just make people change their ideology and whatever of the sort

 

[NaruRiasUzumaki]

I prefer Madara is more pure evil over Aizen. Nardo didn't work on Madara with TnJ or never show us.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

make a crt then , because it is not stated as sealing on his profile .

"Magnetism Manipulation (Can bind targets in place and immobilize them with Magnet Release)"

"Sage Art: Magnet Release Rasengan: A tailed beast skill whereby Naruto, using Shukaku's power, creates a Rasengan with similar markings to the beast's cursed seal and then smashes the sphere into his opponent in the same manner as a normal Rasengan. Upon being struck with this technique, the markings quickly spread across the target's body and bind them"

Anyway , Naruto ain't talking no jutsu Aizen . He can only do that to weak minded people .

Madara has resistance to sealing became of this jutsu, so i dont need to make a CRT.

 

[Damage3245]

It seals them in a sand pyramid.

I believe Naruto has only demonstrated the sealing via a Magnet Release Rasengan, not the actual Sand Pyramid technique.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I actually don't think talk no Jutsu will work here, and not because I think it worked on weak minded people, in fact quite the opposite. Everyone Naruto had to use talk no jutsu on had a lot of common characteristics.

They all had a distorted sense of justice and morality shaped by abuse and trauma. Obito almost lost his life to save his friends only to later find his best friend killing his beloved rin. Not to mention he was a child soldier who had to witness the horrors of war first hand, and then being manipulated by Madara.

Nagato was similar as a war orphan who later on lost his best friend and then was manipulated by obito.

Gaara was always abused as a child and used as a mindless weapon feared by everyone.

But fundamentally they all had good intentions initially albiet extremely distorted and all had something that Naruto could relate to. Obito wanted to be hokage, Nagato was Jiraiya's student, and Gaara was a shunned Jinshuriki just like him. Talk no Jutsu didn't come out of nowhere, Naruto always had a fundamental connection with these people that he could use to reach them psychologically and through his actions and ideals show them what they COULD'VE BEEN(or could still be in the case of Gaara) . They all ultimately had good intentions and Naruto just showed them how they strayed off course because ultimately they all wanted similar things.

Aizen just doesn't have that kind of connection to Naruto for it to work(neither does Madara which is why he never attempted it with him or Kaguya or something) ...

so yea I don't see it working. They'll just have to fight it out. In which case Naruto would probably win. He can resist illusions and Soul manip.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Its shukakus technique and he says "use my chakra to build your sealing jutsu"

 

[Nierre]

Also Naruto (if taking the place of Ichigo) knows almost NOTHING about Aizen, his talk would be meaningless and pointless.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Wait didn't Aizen wanted to lose in the first place because he felt lonely due to how powerful he was that he was basically forced into isolation?

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Also Naruto (if taking the place of Ichigo) knows almost NOTHING about Aizen, his talk would be meaningless and pointless.

I already said in the thread that Naruto has knowledge on Aizen

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Like I said above there's a blatant pattern to the people Naruto attempted talk no jutsu on, and as far as I can tell Aizen doesn't fit it at all

 

[Amasnesotdrol]

Talk to him about what? Aizen is correct, his method to achieve his goals maybe wrong but nevertheless he's right..

 

[KLOL506]

Why Naruto doesn't have social influencing at this point is beyond me.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Talk to him about what? Aizen is correct, his method to achieve his goals maybe wrong but nevertheless he's right..

To quote a wise high jump kid "Just because you're correct doesnt mean you're right"

 

[Amasnesotdrol]

I take that as you have no answer.

 

[Nierre]

Naruto puts Aizen down. Hes way faster and stronger.

Talk no jutsu ain't doing anything.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I am confused. Why does reiatsu crush not GG? OP doesn't restrict it whatsoever? Even without it, Naruto can't Talk no jutsu Aizen so that just makes it a stomp since Aizen can't do anything if his evolution is capped tiers below Naruto.

 

[Padaruyos]

AFAIK Naruto has resistance to soulhax. In KCM he resisted his soul being pulled out by Nagato. Not really sure how it actually works tbh.

 

[Padaruyos]

Anyways, without Reiatsu crush Aizen either gets TnJed or get rofl stomped.

 

[Snoke123]

AFAIK Naruto has resistance to soulhax. In KCM he resisted his soul being pulled out by Nagato. Not really sure how it actually works tbh.

ahahahahah no, you cannot compare something that physically grabs your soul and tries to pull it, with something that crushes your soul (like the pressure of the ocean) the difference is absurd and astronomical.