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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

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Third Raikage CRT

It seems simple enough, I just added descriptions and sources to the abilities, as well as stamina, range, and weaknesses, and added "Damage Boost" to his abilities through Hell Stab. No changes to physical attributes, that's it. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:MadaraZKX/Third_Raikage#Base
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Shadowbokunohero said:
because she's deceased and her role in the story is to establish the context of the nine tails attack and propel naruto's character growth. she isn't a major supporting character. so no i dont think she's undeveloped, i think she's perfectly developed for the role she has in the story.

characters being undeveloped are a consequence of their being a clear A to B progression either personally or with the plot of the story and the faulty progression makes the Points of A or B feel lackluster hence why its undeveloped, because there's an expectation of development.

this is a separate issue from characters being well realized which is product of either weak or strong characterization, given you can have well realized characters with strong characterizations and little no development. and characters with a lot of development and weak characterization.
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Yeah I always loved her and what she did and meant for Naruto
But then the Minato one shot came out and she and Minato are just spectacular characters to me
Like US69 said maybe Kishi has gotten better at weaving romance into his stories since Naruto ended or maybe he's just only good at adult romance but the bond between Kushina Minato and eventually Naruto is just so wonderfully done even if all of them were alive with one another for not more than an hour
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Also for those craving more Kushina/Minato, I implore ya'll to watch Road to Ninja. Especially since it was written by Kishimoto. Great movie.
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It wasn’t “Written” by him. The “Story By” credit means the idea/concept of the movie cane from him.

It could be a simple as: “How about we do a Naruto story where he is sent to alternate world where his parents are alive and never died, and everyone’s personalities have been switched/changed and the Akatsuki are the good guys. The Villain is a Dark Version of Naruto being manipulated by Tobi.”

They would still have to Credit him with “Story By”, but at the same time, he could’ve penned a whole ass beat-by-beat outline. 🤷‍♂️ But “Yuka Miyata” is the credited writer.
 
Is Naruto's ending kind of centrist with how Sasuke's revolution is portrayed as a bad thing and the solution is gradually improving the system without actually changing it at its core?
 
tbf I would say things are changing a lot now

Shinobi are becoming "irrelevant" so to speak in this new modern age

Hell Konoha's budget ( according to Julius/Terry Crews Shikamaru ) is that Naruto can't even afford to break a reinforced door with how broke they are rn, the village budget getting smaller that is

This is obviously due to lack of missions compared to before where war was always a constant thing...and with war comes profit

In the end Hagoromo's mistake is kind of shown to be that he chose Asura solely as his successor when both Indra and Asura should've been it

Love and compassion are what is needed for understanding but you also need power/strength to force evil into submission, a healthy balance ( yin and yang )

And that is kind of what Naruto and Sasuke have going on throughout Boruto, Naruto being the light with Sasuke being the shadow kage as we saw in Boruto about how he referenced "how far he is willing to go" with guys in the "underworld"


Or maybe I am just rambling Idk
 
MinatoSparkle said:
Is Naruto's ending kind of centrist with how Sasuke's revolution is portrayed as a bad thing and the solution is gradually improving the system without actually changing it at its core?
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No. Sasuke's portrayed as bad because he was planning to be a dictator. Characters like Nagato, who killed dictators, are treated as justified until they start murking civilians.
 
SlendVeny said:
No. Sasuke's portrayed as bad because he was planning to be a dictator. Characters like Nagato, who killed dictators, are treated as justified until they start murking civilians.
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Idk there seems to be pretty ominous emphasis on the idea of revolution
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I don't think Nagato is really treated as justified so much as sympathetic. And it's more about just the general trend that revolutionaries are treated as having good intentions but going too far, which seems a bit propagandized.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
Idk there seems to be pretty ominous emphasis on the idea of revolution
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I don't think Nagato is really treated as justified so much as sympathetic. And it's more about just the general trend that revolutionaries are treated as having good intentions but going too far, which seems a bit propagandized.
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Yes, but this is a revolution against the people who are trying to improve things. I agree that revolutionaries get treated like shit in most media(One Piece is goated for having the Revolutionary Army), but Sasuke's plan was to burn everything to the ground and then rebuild his own world.
 
Gokukid2005 said:
Yeah I always loved her and what she did and meant for Naruto
But then the Minato one shot came out and she and Minato are just spectacular characters to me
Like US69 said maybe Kishi has gotten better at weaving romance into his stories since Naruto ended or maybe he's just only good at adult romance but the bond between Kushina Minato and eventually Naruto is just so wonderfully done even if all of them were alive with one another for not more than an hour
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yall need to realise Kishi is goated with romance in general

sasusaku and naruhina arent all that hes made (Naruhina is good tho)
 
SlendVeny said:
Yes, but this is a revolution against the people who are trying to improve things. I agree that revolutionaries get treated like shit in most media(One Piece is goated for having the Revolutionary Army), but Sasuke's plan was to burn everything to the ground and then rebuild his own world.
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I agree that Sasuke's plan was bad, I'm just talking about framing (not sure that's the right word)
 
Rereading some war arc chapters got me wishing I was present during Naruto's serialisation, Kishimoto was dropping heat after heat with each chapter

every chapter builds up hype and gets me wishing to see more and more
 
SlendVeny said:
If they think revolution is bad, they wouldn't make Ninja Storm Revolution good.
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Agreed, goated game, awesome story and interactions.

I have a lot of nostalgia for that game since I played it when I was 14 and it's been 10 years since then, I never got to play Storm 4 but I probably love it if I ever did.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
Idk there seems to be pretty ominous emphasis on the idea of revolution
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10-s0yQCpEmqfj80.jpg

I don't think Nagato is really treated as justified so much as sympathetic. And it's more about just the general trend that revolutionaries are treated as having good intentions but going too far, which seems a bit propagandized.
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It's portrayed as negative only because we have the context of what Sasuke plans to do, which is to become a totalitarian tyrant (possibly forever, given the reincarnation/immortality stuff he spoke of later), it'd be a bit odd for Kishimoto to paint that in a positive light or to be entirely neutral about it. Especially when his actions would likely continue to propagate the cycle of hatred indefinitely, which is like the opposite of what the story is preaching.

So I don't think it's so much that Kishimoto is against revolutions and/or big dramatic reforms, as much as he's against Sasuke, Nagato, and/or Obito/Madara's brands of revolution. For instance, he portrayed the OG Akatsuki's peaceful revolution in a pretty positive light. And he very much highlighted all of the negative aspects and corruption plaguing the governing bodies of Shinobi villages and the Shinobi world at large.
Now, it does suck that not a whole lot has really changed by the time of the Boruto era, but I don't count that against Kishi since a lot of that stuff isn't really directly written by him. And, well, Naruto isn't really the type of guy to strongarm the world into changing even if he could. He's doing it the slow and painful way, which I won't really speak to the effectiveness of since it's a pretty subjective and controversial topic, and I don't want this to turn too political lol.
 
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