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TBH when it comes to female Naruto characters I don't feel them any worse than their male peers.

Everyone is secondary to Naruto and Sasuke and to a lesser extent Sakura (and it's not a bad thing) any problem they have the guys have it too, so I don't see what the big fuzz is about.
 
Starting.

I've never really read Naruto's manga, only watched the anime, and that was a long time ago, so this is really gonna be a new experience for me.
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Those characters aren't oversexualized, boobs exist irl, believe it or not.

You brought up KAGUYA.
kaguya was good, people have contentions in her timing, without that shes solid,
i enjoy it when im reading the kaguya fights to fish for feats and see the characters work agaisnt each other and drop more narratives, its fun, shes great
 
it's tragic that naruto is plagued with an audience that cant help but trash talk it's characters and writing too

kishi deserves better smh

all the so called criticisms I've read in these 3-5 pages are dumb gripes that people never apply with any other series

Kushina of all people is NOT underdeveloped, she was a perfect character that concluded properly, people gotta stop complaining about needing extra extra with characters which when you ask them how theyd further the character they never produce anything substantial or compelling whatsoever cough cough dygoknight
 
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I think Kushina was great too
She was dead so there wasn't a lot of opening for character development. Besides, not every character needs development.
It's like saying Hagoromo is badly written because he showed up for like 5 chapters and dipped. When that was the whole purpose for his character

You can't be badly written as a character if you serve the purpose you were intended to serve. A lot of critics simply can't decipher the purpose of a character and as a result, say a character (Shino for example) is badly written.

I don't do character/plot analysis btw. I simply rate characters/verses based off my own enjoyment. Probably explains why I like Korra (or TLOK in general) more than Aang.
 
Starting.

I've never really read Naruto's manga, only watched the anime, and that was a long time ago, so this is really gonna be a new experience for me.
https://media.**********.net/attachments/1112893577257832572/1298818585245777970/Naruto_-_Chapter_1_-_1.jpg?ex=671af291&is=6719a111&hm=c4bb2658ffb2e7bc4561c60dfebae031b44ff1378f3722f2bb0e81410961cf5b&
R u reading the colored version?
I think Kushina was great too
She was dead so there wasn't a lot of opening for character development. Besides, not every character needs development.
It's like saying Hagoromo is badly written because he showed up for like 5 chapters and dipped. When that was the whole purpose for his character

You can't be badly written as a character if you serve the purpose you were intended to serve. A lot of critics simply can't decipher the purpose of a character and as a result, say a character (Shino for example) is badly written.
I have said similar things about my goat
I don't do character/plot analysis btw. I simply rate characters/verses based off my own enjoyment. Probably explains why I like Korra (or TLOK in general) more than Aang.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
it's tragic that naruto is plagued with an audience that cant help but trash talk it's characters and writing too

kishi deserves better smh

all the so called criticisms I've read in these 3-5 pages are dumb gripes that people never apply with any other series

Kushina of all people is NOT underdeveloped, she was a perfect character that concluded properly, people gotta stop complaining about needing extra extra with characters which when you ask them how theyd further the character they never produce anything substantial or compelling whatsoever cough cough dygoknight
Honestly I feel like for the most part you don’t get PoG level brain dead criticisms anymore, people seem to be tending far more to the positive with their analysis of Naruto. Obviously there’s still brain dead level takes out there, and maybe it’s just cuz I surround myself with intelligent people, but the past few years of Naruto dialogue surrounding its storytelling have been mostly positive for me. Series is an easy 9/10 for me, so maybe I’m suffering from confirmation bias here but oh well.
 
Honestly I feel like for the most part you don’t get PoG level brain dead criticisms anymore, people seem to be tending far more to the positive with their analysis of Naruto. Obviously there’s still brain dead level takes out there, and maybe it’s just cuz I surround myself with intelligent people, but the past few years of Naruto dialogue surrounding its storytelling have been mostly positive for me. Series is an easy 9/10 for me, so maybe I’m suffering from confirmation bias here but oh well.
I think it's always been "mostly" positive, but yes the trend does seem to be rising in that sense. There are still far too many "Neji was right" and "The War Arc is a DBZ ripoff and has no strategy" ppl tho
And you were doing SO WELL until this line, too.... 😔
I was literally gonna give a huge like until that 😭
Any particular reason?
 
And you were doing SO WELL until this line, too.... 😔
I said what I said
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I saw this after ETSO CRTs. In The Last movie poster, it is stated that Naruto and Sasuke together create the MOST POWERFUL ATTACK IN HISTORY. Right after this statement, it is stated that Naruto's strongest attack is Rasenshuriken and Sasuke's strongest attack is Amaterasu. If we accept the movie posters as canon, does it take a scale above Etso because it says the strongest in history? Or is it said that Etso cannot be interpreted as just an attack?
 
I saw this after ETSO CRTs. In The Last movie poster, it is stated that Naruto and Sasuke together create the MOST POWERFUL ATTACK IN HISTORY. Right after this statement, it is stated that Naruto's strongest attack is Rasenshuriken and Sasuke's strongest attack is Amaterasu. If we accept the movie posters as canon, does it take a scale above Etso because it says the strongest in history? Or is it said that Etso cannot be interpreted as just an attack?
I'm pretty sure this is a game only statement
I remember Rana using it for the storm profiles
The only thing on that poster is some Toneri > Kaguya meta
Unless there's another one
 
I saw this after ETSO CRTs. In The Last movie poster, it is stated that Naruto and Sasuke together create the MOST POWERFUL ATTACK IN HISTORY. Right after this statement, it is stated that Naruto's strongest attack is Rasenshuriken and Sasuke's strongest attack is Amaterasu. If we accept the movie posters as canon, does it take a scale above Etso because it says the strongest in history? Or is it said that Etso cannot be interpreted as just an attack?
Drop the scan
 
Gaara really likes getting ****** up right after a timeskip doesn't he.
So true.

"What the **** did you just ******* say about Gaara, you little *****? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Ninja Academy, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Akatsuki bases, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top Ninjutsu user in the entirety of Root. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in the Sage's World, mark my ******* words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, ******. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're ******* dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in Taijutsu, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Anbu Black Ops and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little 'clever' comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're ******* dead, kiddo. Dattebyo."
 
So true.

"What the ** did you just ***** say about Gaara, you little *****? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Ninja Academy, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Akatsuki bases, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top Ninjutsu user in the entirety of Root. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the ** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in the Sage's World, mark my ***** words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, ******. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're ******* dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in Taijutsu, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Anbu Black Ops and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little 'clever' comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're ******* dead, kiddo. Dattebyo."
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gorilla warfare
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Kushina's super underdeveloped imo. She's awesome, but we almost ever see her outside of her interactions with her son or husband.
because she's deceased and her role in the story is to establish the context of the nine tails attack and propel naruto's character growth. she isn't a major supporting character. so no i dont think she's undeveloped, i think she's perfectly developed for the role she has in the story.

characters being undeveloped are a consequence of their being a clear A to B progression either personally or with the plot of the story and the faulty progression makes the Points of A or B feel lackluster hence why its undeveloped, because there's an expectation of development.

this is a separate issue from characters being well realized which is product of either weak or strong characterization, given you can have well realized characters with strong characterizations and little no development. and characters with a lot of development and weak characterization.
 
because she's deceased and her role in the story is to establish the context of the nine tails attack and propel naruto's character growth. she isn't a major supporting character. so no i dont think she's undeveloped, i think she's perfectly developed for the role she has in the story.

characters being undeveloped are a consequence of their being a clear A to B progression either personally or with the plot of the story and the faulty progression makes the Points of A or B feel lackluster hence why its undeveloped, because there's an expectation of development.

this is a separate issue from characters being well realized which is product of either weak or strong characterization, given you can have well realized characters with strong characterizations and little no development. and characters with a lot of development and weak characterization.
Whatever you say, gorgeous 🫦
 
So what's up with Amado adjusting Kawaki's defense and regen to be above the maximum? Maximum of what exactly? Most likely just his base stats.

Edit: Also lmao at him supposedly being above his max defense stat and still getting knocked out repeatedly.
 
So what's up with Amado adjusting Kawaki's defense and regen to be above the maximum? Maximum of what exactly?
I guess he enhanced them beyond his natural limits?
Also I wonder how good his Regen has actually become. So far it helped him survive blunt force trauma from a much stronger opponent, which is okay, but I wanna see some DISMEMBERMENT and DECAPITATION!
 
I guess he enhanced them beyond his natural limits?
Also I wonder how good his Regen has actually become. So far it helped him survive blunt force trauma from a much stronger opponent, which is okay, but I wanna see some DISMEMBERMENT and DECAPITATION!
Real. And also
Edit: Also lmao at him supposedly being above his max defense stat and still getting knocked out repeatedly.
lol
 
Idk if this is a hot take but, Jura doesn't really seem like a final villain (idk why). Heck he doesn't even seem like the Madara of TBV. But he is a very interesting character. All the Shinju are. So either they are the final villains and the scope of TBV is simply smaller, or Jura is gonna transform, or we should get ready for some backstabby. My guess? Isshiki or some other Otsutsuki is coming back via Lode.
 
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