MinatoSparkle
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I concede
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
BlastX
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I don't even think Sasusaku is bad lol, I love that ship.
BlastX
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Agreed, goated game, awesome story and interactions.
I have a lot of nostalgia for that game since I played it when I was 14 and it's been 10 years since then, I never got to play Storm 4 but I probably love it if I ever did.
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It's portrayed as negative only because we have the context of what Sasuke plans to do, which is to become a totalitarian tyrant (possibly forever, given the reincarnation/immortality stuff he spoke of later), it'd be a bit odd for Kishimoto to paint that in a positive light or to be entirely neutral about it. Especially when his actions would likely continue to propagate the cycle of hatred indefinitely, which is like the opposite of what the story is preaching.Idk there seems to be pretty ominous emphasis on the idea of revolution
I don't think Nagato is really treated as justified so much as sympathetic. And it's more about just the general trend that revolutionaries are treated as having good intentions but going too far, which seems a bit propagandized.
So I don't think it's so much that Kishimoto is against revolutions and/or big dramatic reforms, as much as he's against Sasuke, Nagato, and/or Obito/Madara's brands of revolution. For instance, he portrayed the OG Akatsuki's peaceful revolution in a pretty positive light. And he very much highlighted all of the negative aspects and corruption plaguing the governing bodies of Shinobi villages and the Shinobi world at large.
Now, it does suck that not a whole lot has really changed by the time of the Boruto era, but I don't count that against Kishi since a lot of that stuff isn't really directly written by him. And, well, Naruto isn't really the type of guy to strongarm the world into changing even if he could. He's doing it the slow and painful way, which I won't really speak to the effectiveness of since it's a pretty subjective and controversial topic, and I don't want this to turn too political lol.
HelloThere1089
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Naruto/Boruto Overall Intelligence Ranking
Rank top 10 characters by overall intelligence.
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He wasn’t planning to be a dictator… he was planning to be Bruce Wayne.
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But nah seriously:
- Sasuke’s Plan: Become Injustice Superman
- Nagato’s Plan: Mutually Assured Destruction
- Madara/Obito’s Plan: The Matrix
- Naruto’s Plan: Maintain NATO
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Logically speaking… based on In-Verse mechanics and Logic, could Shikamaru theoretically redirect a Biju Bomb via his Shadow Jutsu (The One he uses to Control Choji’s Trajectory like a Yoyo)? 
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Guys someone made Kaguya vs Zeno match https://vsbattles.com/threads/kaguya-fights-a-kid-with-a-blue-head.173835/
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If I were want to ask someone to make a thread for me, it's probably gotta be Jojo related (the verse I'm most interest3d in)
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KaydeeX
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you got resilience
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Btw you should go hop in the match thread, wild rn
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Does the "im the stronger enemy than x which means my strongest abilities are superior to your strongest abilities" argument work?
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I was trying to get itachi above bijuubombs
Im not as obsessed with ETSO as you think
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talking about this btw
I believe the bare minnimum you can say from this is Yasaka beads> Bijuubombs since bijuu primarily use that for offence and are a part of obitos forces
MinatoSparkle
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I mean Itachi has abilities that ignore dura anyways
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not everyone is ultra hungry for tier 4 and even then there's more metas to apply than just ETSO
yeah but I like seeing those high numbers on his profile
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Itachi would stomp most Bijū without needing to be stronger than their Bijūdamas.talking about this btw
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1) theyre not saying hes gonna beat them, theyre saying hes straight up stronger, only second to maybe nagato
2) nagato who isnt a dura neg user, was still ranked above them and itachi tore apart his body either way
you can have hax and still be physically potent as shown in the fight with naruto and bee
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Yes, "strength" encompasses more than punches and kicks. It's overall combat ability. Itachi could be physically weaker than Chiyo, and he'd still be in the top 2 most powerful Edos.
Yes, he is. He has many hax abilities.
But leaving those aside, he also has many high output ninjutsu, so there's absolutely no reason to think the statement is referring solely to Nagato's physical stats.
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sigh
he doesn't even primarily use the totsuka blade, he used it like once against orochimaru and once with nagato and a few times with kabuto
everyone that he attacks with the totsuka blade is someone he physically outstats, if we scale assuming they use their strongest hax than might as well assume people that beat kaguya are superior etso rather than her physical stats (per that logic)
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Okay, so if you're not referring to physical stats then why did you bring up Itachi's Susano'o outclassing Nagato's physical stats as if that means anything for your premise?
I didn't even single out the Totsuka Blade. Itachi has several other abilities he can clap the Bijū with.
HelloThere1089
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Sup guys
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you do realize using that as proof is dookie
good supporting evidence to what im suggesting tho
I fail to see how a genjutsu merchant would be "stronger" or "two of the most powerful forces!!" when hax like that are just cheap methods of winning without outstating the opponent, pretty much contradicts the statement (unless theres other abilities youd like to bring up)
I forgor
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Not really…
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Btw are you interested in giving input for the Kaguya vs Zeno match?You have to be trolling...
Coccsession accepted.
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Not even remotely, no. Sorry.
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The thread has become chaotic lol
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How is Zeno vs. Kaguya even a thread? He blinks and she's vaporized.
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Usually paralysis or genjutsu since Zeno needs to do his hand movements to erase
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It's worse. She's erased from history along with her entire timeline
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BumpLogically speaking… based on In-Verse mechanics and Logic, could Shikamaru theoretically redirect a Biju Bomb via his Shadow Jutsu (The One he uses to Control Choji’s Trajectory like a Yoyo)?
