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No. Sasuke's portrayed as bad because he was planning to be a dictator. Characters like Nagato, who killed dictators, are treated as justified until they start murking civilians.
He wasn’t planning to be a dictator… he was planning to be Bruce Wayne.
 
But nah seriously:
  1. Sasuke’s Plan: Become Injustice Superman
  2. Nagato’s Plan: Mutually Assured Destruction
  3. Madara/Obito’s Plan: The Matrix
  4. Naruto’s Plan: Maintain NATO
 
Logically speaking… based on In-Verse mechanics and Logic, could Shikamaru theoretically redirect a Biju Bomb via his Shadow Jutsu (The One he uses to Control Choji’s Trajectory like a Yoyo)? 🤔
 
Does the "im the stronger enemy than x which means my strongest abilities are superior to your strongest abilities" argument work?
 
I was trying to get itachi above bijuubombs

Im not as obsessed with ETSO as you think
talking about this btw

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I believe the bare minnimum you can say from this is Yasaka beads> Bijuubombs since bijuu primarily use that for offence and are a part of obitos forces
 
Itachi would stomp most Bijū without needing to be stronger than their Bijūdamas.
1) theyre not saying hes gonna beat them, theyre saying hes straight up stronger, only second to maybe nagato

2) nagato who isnt a dura neg user, was still ranked above them and itachi tore apart his body either way

you can have hax and still be physically potent as shown in the fight with naruto and bee
 
1) theyre not saying hes gonna beat them, theyre saying hes straight up stronger, only second to maybe nagato
Yes, "strength" encompasses more than punches and kicks. It's overall combat ability. Itachi could be physically weaker than Chiyo, and he'd still be in the top 2 most powerful Edos.
2) nagato who isnt a dura neg user, was still ranked above them and itachi tore apart his body either way
Yes, he is. He has many hax abilities.
But leaving those aside, he also has many high output ninjutsu, so there's absolutely no reason to think the statement is referring solely to Nagato's physical stats.
 
But leaving those aside, he also has many high output ninjutsu, so there's absolutely no reason to think the statement is referring solely to Nagato's physical stats.
Does the "im the stronger enemy than x which means my strongest abilities are superior to your strongest abilities" argument work?
sigh
Yes, "strength" encompasses more than punches and kicks. It's overall combat ability. Itachi could be physically weaker than Chiyo, and he'd still be in the top 2 most powerful Edos.
he doesn't even primarily use the totsuka blade, he used it like once against orochimaru and once with nagato and a few times with kabuto
everyone that he attacks with the totsuka blade is someone he physically outstats, if we scale assuming they use their strongest hax than might as well assume people that beat kaguya are superior etso rather than her physical stats (per that logic)
 
We also just get rather clear intent that Itachi’s Susanoo beads are like uncharged TBB from Bee anyway. So there’s your Itachi scaling to TBB
 
Okay, so if you're not referring to physical stats then why did you bring up Itachi's Susano'o outclassing Nagato's physical stats as if that means anything for your premise?
he doesn't even primarily use the totsuka blade, he used it like once against orochimaru and once with nagato and a few times with kabuto
everyone that he attacks with the totsuka blade is someone he physically outstats, if we scale assuming they use their strongest hax than might as well assume people that beat kaguya are superior etso rather than her physical stats (per that logic)
I didn't even single out the Totsuka Blade. Itachi has several other abilities he can clap the Bijū with.
 
We also just get rather clear intent that Itachi’s Susanoo beads are like uncharged TBB from Bee anyway. So there’s your Itachi scaling to TBB
you do realize using that as proof is dookie
good supporting evidence to what im suggesting tho
I didn't even single out the Totsuka Blade. Itachi has several other abilities he can clap the Bijū with.
I fail to see how a genjutsu merchant would be "stronger" or "two of the most powerful forces!!" when hax like that are just cheap methods of winning without outstating the opponent, pretty much contradicts the statement (unless theres other abilities youd like to bring up)
Okay, so if you're not referring to physical stats then why did you bring up Itachi's Susano'o outclassing Nagato's physical stats as if that means anything for your premise?
I forgor 💀
 
I fail to see how a genjutsu merchant would be "stronger" or "two of the most powerful forces!!" when hax like that are just cheap methods of winning without outstating the opponent, pretty much contradicts the statement (unless theres other abilities youd like to bring up)
You have to be trolling... 😭
Coccsession accepted.
 
How is Zeno vs. Kaguya even a thread? He blinks and she's vaporized.
A person asked on my profile a while back, I said something like "Zeno blitzes Infinite Tsukuyomi even with speed equalized," and someone made the match anyway. This is crazy.
 
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