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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

MinatoSparkle said:
1. KCM2 Naruto>Lone 50% Kurama
2. That statement's about chakra volume specifically
3. It might only be about Base Hashirama tbh
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Which would then correlate to BSM being roughly Sage Hashirama level, especially since he and Sasuke performed significantly better against Jūbito than anyone else did.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
You need to actually establish eye contact for it to work and you need to actually activate the visual Jutsu you're using.
It's not a "I think it, and the ability comes into existence instantly" sort of situation. Unlike her dimension switching, which actually happens instantly as soon as she decides to use it.
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Well eye contact is usually the first thing people do, it's not like it takes time unless the opponent has knowledge about genjutsu. And activating is basically just molding chakra and releasing it which seems to be nigh instant. So while it's not literally thought based, it essentially works like it is.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Zen'ō's EE is far beyond anything the TSOs can do lol. It's also layered.
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I mean yeah that's why I asked whether range like that goes beyond resistances. And is it layered? I couldn't see anything on his page, verse page, or the layer evaluation thread.
Sdjlakjh said:
Well if it's like that, then Zeno would start being goofy around as a child. In the Vs thread, it would be who can do the first move mostly
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No because SBA would makes Zeno want to kill Kaguya from the start. Although it's hard to say what Kaguya would do in a situation like that given her limited screen time.
Sdjlakjh said:
As long Kaguya can paralysis Zeno first via her genjutsu, she wins
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Yeah ig.

But ngl I kidna hate these weak haxxed character vs strong character without resistances to the hax thread 😭
 
DavidTPPM said:
No because SBA would makes Zeno want to kill Kaguya from the start. Although it's hard to say what Kaguya would do in a situation like that given her limited screen time.

Yeah ig.

But ngl I kidna hate these weak haxxed character vs strong character without resistances to the hax thread 😭
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You wanna make the VS thread perhaps. If Kaguya wins, it would be huge
 
DavidTPPM said:
I mean yeah that's why I asked whether range like that goes beyond resistances. And is it layered? I couldn't see anything on his page, verse page, or the layer evaluation thread.
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Good ol Goku sparkle would have handed it to you that Zeno can erase gods who are resistant to EE
 
DavidTPPM said:
Nah, likely I said

But you can make it if you're interested. I might participate in that case
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Nah bro, you be the star. If Kaguya wins, everyone would go start praisin you fr. Also even if Kaguya loses, it wont really matter as it is against a low complex multi being
 
DavidTPPM said:
Well eye contact is usually the first thing people do, it's not like it takes time unless the opponent has knowledge about genjutsu. And activating is basically just molding chakra and releasing it which seems to be nigh instant. So while it's not literally thought based, it essentially works like it is.
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I'm not saying ocular genjutsu is bad or hard to pull off. It's pretty OP. It's just not thought based, technically speaking.
DavidTPPM said:
I mean yeah that's why I asked whether range like that goes beyond resistances. And is it layered? I couldn't see anything on his page, verse page, or the layer evaluation thread.
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Yeah, sorry. I should've elaborated lol.

Zen'ō can casually erase Gods of Destruction, who can resist Hakai, which erases mind, body and soul from existence across all of history. He can also erase Space-Time, and beings who have merged with it.
As for his range, he can casually erase multiple universes at once.
 
So let me get this straight… the only thing scaling 100% Kurama “Far Above” his 50% Variant is just Hasirama scaling? 🤔
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Because him being anything less than half of his full power is stupid.
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Don't you think Sage Mode is a 10 times+ multiplier anyways? That would make SM Hashirama more than 5x above 50% Kurama
KaydeeX said:
Good ol Goku sparkle would have handed it to you that Zeno can erase gods who are resistant to EE
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I do not recall this unfortunately 😔
SlendVeny said:
No, I mean Kinkaku(funny-ass name) and Ginkaku.
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Do you mean they ate some of 100% Kurama's chakra so he wasn't at his strongest when split in two?
NeoKingOfLight said:
So let me get this straight… the only thing scaling 100% Kurama “Far Above” his 50% Variant is just Hasirama scaling? 🤔
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That and scaling to Madara's Perfect Susanoo
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
@MinatoSparkle
Does the 3rd Databook actually say the Odama Rasengan size is proportional to the size of a would be Asteroid strike? 🤔
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You mean impact? If so, yes.
攻撃対象を突き抜け、周囲の地面さえも抉る凄まじい攻撃力ッ!!圧縮された“九尾”のチャクラが生む衝撃は、小型隕石の衝突に匹敵する･･･!!
A tremendous attack power that pierces through the target and even gouges the surrounding ground!! The impact created by the compressed 'Nine-Tails' chakra rivals the impact of a small meteorite...!!

These are the respective definitions of the kanji for the two uses of the word impact btw.
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SlendVeny said:
I REALLY wish Obito had given his Edo Jinchuuriki a Path each.
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He would have if not for the plot- I mean for the fact that they all know how to counter Rinnegan abilities now. He says they take up too much Chakra but you're telling me he couldn't at least try to use them in small openings where he could take them out with Chakra absorption or something?
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
He would have if not for the plot- I mean for the fact that they all know how to counter Rinnegan abilities now. He says they take up too much Chakra but you're telling me he couldn't at least try to use them in small openings where he could take them out with Chakra absorption or something?
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Edo Tensei have infinite chakra, and Bijuu have a LOT.
 
4B IT Kaguya thread dropping tomorrow. If she can make a tso of that size, she can make a bijuu bomb of that size
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Using Rinnegan powers through Paths of Pain still uses the casters own Chakra, it's why the Chaotic Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei had so much blowback on Nagato.
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Nagato was using corpses as a medium, I can't imagine the drain would be equivalent for Obito(plus he has HASHIRAMA CELLS, which do anything and everything.)
 
SlendVeny said:
Nagato was using corpses as a medium, I can't imagine the drain would be equivalent for Obito(plus he has HASHIRAMA CELLS, which do anything and everything.)
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He still says using them would be wasteful regardless, purely because Kishimoto knows a Bloodlusted Obito is basically unbeatable.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
KCM2 Naruto>50% Kurama and Edo BM Jin>Bijuu
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i wasn’t asking about Naruto controlled Kurama. The question i am trying to ask is why you guys are trying to place 100% Kurama so far above 50%. And if that issue stems around higher end scaling, what’s wrong with that scailing? Edo Jin are irrelevant to the question but for specificity sake, I ask again, what is wrong with:

100% Kurama (x2) > 50% Kurama (x5) > War Arc Biju?

Because from my perspective, unless I’m missing something, if it’s just around higher end scalings for 100% Kurama being justification, then based if the narrative, they are just stronger than calcs suggest and the gaps aren’t as big as we think.

Hashirama being around x10 in Base over the Biju is sufficient and Narratively isn’t contradicted.
 
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