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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Kayzz said:
It is continuous physical damage because Code got back up, good as new, the moment Uzuhiko was rescinded.
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or he got up because he wasn't experiencing crippling vertigo anymore that previously left him unable to do anything but hold the area where the damage was initially done.
Kayzz said:
No. The effects of Uzuhiko do not fade. The physical harm is part of that unceasing effects, as well as the psychological.
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that has never been stated.
Kayzz said:
The previous line was "In addition to the damage that a standard Rasengan causes..."
It's obvious the physical harm is the standard rasengan damage.
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yes because Boruto hits you with it like a normal Rasengan and you take physical damage, and then the effect kicks in and you get hit with vertigo.

notice how Code only ever says, why is everything spinning? and not why I am still being damaged?
Kayzz said:
Based on tanking the continuous damage from the power unceasingly coursing his body. The AP doesn't truly leave the body - stated by Boruto
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Boruto never said that.

also hypothetically, if Hidari got obliterated by the initial hit and was "tanking" some form of residual AP from Uzuhiko, then logically the AP Uzuhiko would be doing overtime would be unquantifiably inferior to the regular damage done by Uzuhiko.

So it would be something that is unscalable to the Uzuhiko value at all.
Kayzz said:
It's not only psychological.
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nothing has proved that except via misinterpreting a statement and assuming Code holding his stomach means that he's being continuously damaged and not just that he's in pain.
 
Godernet said:
or he got up because he wasn't experiencing crippling vertigo anymore that previously left him unable to do anything but hold the area where the damage was initially done.

that has never been stated.

yes because Boruto hits you with it like a normal Rasengan and you take physical damage, and then the effect kicks in and you get hit with vertigo.

notice how Code only ever says, why is everything spinning? and not why I am still being damaged?

Boruto never said that.

also hypothetically, if Hidari got obliterated by the initial hit and was "tanking" some form of residual AP from Uzuhiko, then logically the AP Uzuhiko would be doing overtime would be unquantifiably inferior to the regular damage done by Uzuhiko.

So it would be something that is unscalable to the Uzuhiko value at all.

nothing has proved that except via misinterpreting a statement and assuming Code holding his stomach means that he's being continuously damaged and not just that he's in pain.
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The physical damage depends on subjective interpretation at this point, so I can't go further.

Residual AP - I don't think something like that was stated.

The power of Uzuhiko that continuously courses through the body comes from the Planetary Centrifugal Force, making it continuous in the first place. We already have a value for the Planet's CF.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
(see the Change in Nature/Shape Increasing Effectiveness part)
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Unless I'm missing something, change in nature/shape can increase AP. But that doesn't mean it will everytime tho. In case of rasenshuriken, it was stated to increase killing power so it makes sense that it has more AP. The change in vanishing Rasengan is in the form of invisibility. I don't think it was ever stated that it augments power. So I disagree that change in nature/shape always will increase AP. Unless of course I missed a scan or two. In which case my bad.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
Unless I'm missing something, change in nature/shape can increase AP. But that doesn't mean it will everytime tho. In case of rasenshuriken, it was stated to increase killing power so it makes sense that it has more AP. The change in vanishing Rasengan is in the form of invisibility. I don't think it was ever stated that it augments power. So I disagree that change in nature/shape always will increase AP. Unless of course I missed a scan or two. In which case my bad.
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Yeah it was never stated or implied Vanishing Rasengan is a stronger variant. In fact I think it was stated the opposite, that it lacks Killing Power when Momo used it against Sasuke after the Isshiki fight. 🤔
 
Do you guys believe the talking point that the Boruto Anime at some pointbstopped gelping the Manga Sales and started hurting them early on? And from that point, while the Anime did good busniess, it didn’t support the manga?

And second, regardless if tou do or don’t, how big of an impact do you think the Anime’s return will be on the manga? 25% Boost? 50% Boost?
 
i think the anime went on hiatus so they could allocate more resources to bleach and give the manga time to catch up so theyd have more content when it returns
 
HelloThere1089 said:
Unless I'm missing something, change in nature/shape can increase AP. But that doesn't mean it will everytime tho. In case of rasenshuriken, it was stated to increase killing power so it makes sense that it has more AP. The change in vanishing Rasengan is in the form of invisibility. I don't think it was ever stated that it augments power. So I disagree that change in nature/shape always will increase AP. Unless of course I missed a scan or two. In which case my bad.
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I mean that's just what it says it does inherently. It's stated to be just like change in shape in terms of increasing ninjutsu's power. For example with lightning, the example uses blades, but it says lightning nature makes something more lethal. And Naruto's basic Wind Style Rasengan overpowered Kakashi's Rasengan, hurting his hand pretty badly. Vanishing may be the special property, but it is portrayed that change in nature is just an inherent boost aside from any other unique differences.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I mean that's just what it says it does inherently. It's stated to be just like change in shape in terms of increasing ninjutsu's power.
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I don't see how this confirms that change in chakra nature inherently increases AP tho. Of course change in chakra nature is a method of increasing power because it can do that.
MinatoSparkle said:
For example with lightning, the example uses blades, but it says lightning nature makes something more lethal.
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I mean if you wanna use this statement, it specifically states metal weapons tho, giving more evidence for my stance that this is case by case always. It says nothing about invisibility and yet it does that to Rasengan.
MinatoSparkle said:
And Naruto's basic Wind Style Rasengan overpowered Kakashi's Rasengan, hurting his hand pretty badly.
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Yes because it's an earlier stage of rasenshuriken, which is stated to increase power. So it makes sense that in this instance adding wind style will increase power. But usually any increase in effectiveness is explained. In Rasenshurikens case, it was explained why it got more powerful. Same with Asumas blades and chidori.
MinatoSparkle said:
Vanishing may be the special property, but it is portrayed that change in nature is just an inherent boost aside from any other unique differences.
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I don't buy it. The way I'm reading this, change in chakra nature and shape both add an extra axis to manipulate for the user. The user can thus choose to manipulate it in ways that can increase effectiveness. This may come in the form of sharpness, speed, stealth, durability, temperature, etc. And these are what make the jutsu more effective/powerful.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
I don't see how this confirms that change in chakra nature inherently increases AP tho. Of course change in chakra nature is a method of increasing power because it can do that.
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It's not saying just some, it refers to change in nature or shape in general as methods of increasing ninjutsu power.
HelloThere1089 said:
I mean if you wanna use this statement, it specifically states metal weapons tho, giving more evidence for my stance that this is case by case always. It says nothing about invisibility and yet it does that to Rasengan.
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But how do you think it does that? It's obviously by the properties of lightning, which can apply to a Rasengan too, making its chakra sharper.
HelloThere1089 said:
Yes because it's an earlier stage of rasenshuriken, which is stated to increase power. So it makes sense that in this instance adding wind style will increase power. But usually any increase in effectiveness is explained. In Rasenshurikens case, it was explained why it got more powerful. Same with Asumas blades and chidori.
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But it's quite literally just adding wind nature to a Rasengan, it's the most basic change in shape + nature transformation you can think of.
HelloThere1089 said:
I don't buy it. The way I'm reading this, change in chakra nature and shape both add an extra axis to manipulate for the user. The user can thus choose to manipulate it in ways that can increase effectiveness. This may come in the form of sharpness, speed, stealth, durability, temperature, etc. And these are what make the jutsu more effective/powerful.
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But the differences and the increase in power are mutually inclusive. If we know via statements and feats that adding change in nature increases ninjutsu power, and we also know that it can cause unique properties, it just makes more sense that they stack in this case. Also, I argued against this before as I didn't think it was concrete enough, but the fact that Delta survived a Rasengan of similar size (yes I'm aware it wasn't SPSM Naruto's full power, just comparing it to Base Naruto's) does lend some credence to Boruto's being amped to completely obliterate Momoshiki, who while weaker, could withstand SPSM Naruto's blows.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
It's not saying just some, it refers to change in nature or shape in general as methods of increasing ninjutsu power.

But how do you think it does that? It's obviously by the properties of lightning, which can apply to a Rasengan too, making its chakra sharper.

But it's quite literally just adding wind nature to a Rasengan, it's the most basic change in shape + nature transformation you can think of.

But the differences and the increase in power are mutually inclusive. If we know via statements and feats that adding change in nature increases ninjutsu power, and we also know that it can cause unique properties, it just makes more sense that they stack in this case. Also, I argued against this before as I didn't think it was concrete enough, but the fact that Delta survived a Rasengan of similar size (yes I'm aware it wasn't SPSM Naruto's full power, just comparing it to Base Naruto's) does lend some credence to Boruto's being amped to completely obliterate Momoshiki, who while weaker, could withstand SPSM Naruto's blows.
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this argument again? Delta survived coz naruto wanted her to
 
Just thought about it but would Sarada get iver the MS Blindness via 100 Healings replacing the Cells in her Eyes that Go Blind?

It could be used not only as a Buff (Obviously) but Passively retains her Eyesight.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Have Hashirama Cells been Stated to reduce Blindness? Iirc, the only thing I remember was Itachi saying Hashi Cells can reduce Koto Cool Down.
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Don't think there's an outright statement but considering how Kakashi's Sharingan was going blind after only using it sparingly compared to Obito using his basically every five seconds then you can certainly make that connection.
 
How do you guys think Boruto's Karma would interact with his Tenketsu being blocked? Do you think if he released his Karma his Tenketsu would be forced open, similarly to Kyuubi Naruto? How about the Jougan?
 
Nierre said:
How do you guys think Boruto's Karma would interact with his Tenketsu being blocked? Do you think if he released his Karma his Tenketsu would be forced open, similarly to Kyuubi Naruto? How about the Jougan?
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I think so actually coz in karma activation there is always a surge of chakra coming out which would burst the points open
 
Urashiki fairly easily imo
even if code has the raw stat advantage
(im going to assume you mean base code with speed equalized because otherwise Code blitzes based on our own wiki scaling lol)
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
Urashiki fairly easily imo
even if code has the raw stat advantage
(im going to assume you mean base code with speed equalized because otherwise Code blitzes based on our own wiki scaling lol)
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Chicken Urashiki vs Karma Code with Limiters. I didn't intend to equalize speed, but you can answer for both if you want.
 
karma code is 5-C
so ig it depends on where u scale Urashiki. we currently scale him to 6-C but if u want to take a high end meta and scale him to Sasuke and Gaara, he'd be 5-C

imo Urashiki should take it. He has the versatility and hax to take Code out. They're both really dumb fighters tho. Urashiki never takes anybody seriously and doesn't always go for chakra stealing (Boruto and Shinki for example), but Code also has no way to really put him down other than AP since he's very much a one trick pony.
 
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