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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

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SlendVeny said:
Not really. The gap between infinite and not infinite is infinite.
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The difference between the speed of sound and DBS top tiers is so huge it might as well be infinite
Godernet said:
Boruto infusing his own chakra into lightning style in a Rasengan comprised on 99% Nard chakra isn’t making the jutsu that much stronger.
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The amount of chakra isn't the issue, combining change in chakra form with change in chakra nature just inherently provides a significant boost.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
The difference between the speed of sound and DBS top tiers is so huge it might as well be infinite

The amount of chakra isn't the issue, combining change in chakra form with change in chakra nature just inherently provides a significant boost.
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the gap between speed of sound and dragon ball mftl+ is infinitesimally smaller than the gap between said mftl+ and infinite.
 
Sus said:
the pages are kinda confusing, can someone explain the values and scaling chain of the god tiers?
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This is a summary(for Boruto NNG God tiers), not well detailed but it should suffice:

88 exatons = New Era base Naruto=Base momoshiki=New Era base Sasuke>=Kinshiki

177 exatons = Fused momoshiki>Delta<Kashin Koji<<<SPSM Naruto=Sasuke<< Limited Code(claims he can win a 1 v 1 against Nardo and Sasu)<Kawaki=Boruto(they both dogpilled Code)

354 exatons = Rasengan Variants[2x] + SPSM Naruto=Sasuke

532 exatons=Asura avatar Naruto[3x]=Full power Susanoo Sasuke<Majestic Attire Susanoo<Jigen<No-Limiters Code<Daemon<Isshiki<Baryon Mode Naruto
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Would TSOs null Cell's Regen (I know that it nulls Regeneration Jutsu which can be somewhat equalized to Regeneration Spells, Techniques, etc.) or would Nine Tails Chakra in the Cloaked SPSM slow down Cell's Regen?
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The regen won't be negated, and I don't think it'll be slowed in the traditional way either, but I'm pretty sure his regen isn't passive, so he'd have to focus on it for a second.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
The amount of chakra isn't the issue, combining change in chakra form with change in chakra nature just inherently provides a significant boost.
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The amount of chakra in the base rasengan is certainly a factor considering boruto already hit Momoshiki with his own vanishing rasengan and it scratched him at best
There's one difference from a scratch to turning momo into space dust and it's not boruto's lightning nature
 
Testarossa002 said:
The amount of chakra in the base rasengan is certainly a factor considering boruto already hit Momoshiki with his own vanishing rasengan and it scratched him at best
There's one difference from a scratch to turning momo into space dust and it's not boruto's lightning nature
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I think he's just saying simply adding lightning style regardless of who its coming from would give a hefty amp to an already powerful rasengan. Basically it scales with the rasengan in a way.
 
karo_senpaii said:
the gap between speed of sound and dragon ball mftl+ is infinitesimally smaller than the gap between said mftl+ and infinite.
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That's not really relevant to the original point, which was this
SlendVeny said:
If they were infinite speed and slowed down below infinite speed to talk, they would all instantly get blitzed and butchered.
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SlendVeny said:
Never mentioned sound, MFTL characters hearing each other is fine.
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? Then what were you talking about? The fact that slowing down at all from Infinite speed would get you blitzed? Cause not really, they could still react, and DB characters don't often just interrupt each other mid speech. Like there was literally a joke sequence where that trio of girls did a long speech and transformation sequence and everyone was mad when 17 interrupted them.
Testarossa002 said:
The amount of chakra in the base rasengan is certainly a factor considering boruto already hit Momoshiki with his own vanishing rasengan and it scratched him at best
There's one difference from a scratch to turning momo into space dust and it's not boruto's lightning nature
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Ofc. Lightning x (Boruto + Naruto)>>Boruto + Naruto>>>>>>>>>Lightning x Boruto>>Boruto
 
MinatoSparkle said:
? Then what were you talking about? The fact that slowing down at all from Infinite speed would get you blitzed? Cause not really, they could still react, and DB characters don't often just interrupt each other mid speech. Like there was literally a joke sequence where that trio of girls did a long speech and transformation sequence and everyone was mad when 17 interrupted them.
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Time would not pass during an infinite speed fight. If they reduced themselves below infinite speed to talk, every other fight would end in the time it took them to say a word.
 
KaydeeX said:
Going for the highest possibility of the four which can even be deemed as an outlier is far fetched.
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Except that wasn’t even the context of my post. I suggest you reread it.

Edit: It doesn’t even matter anyways as Koji specifically said “Planet”, not “World” anyways, but still.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Iirc, the context of the conversation was in regards to the Shinju. Koji told Boruto to retreat and Boruto didn’t immediately retreat. When he started to get packed out, Koji pleaded with him to retreat again, telling him if he goes does it’s the end of everything. When Boruto finally retreats and Koni meets him at the Sasuke Tree (💀) he makes the “Are you trying to Destroy this world?” Comment but the overall context is still in regard to Shinju.

It seriously doesn’t seem like Uzuhiko was the reference. And depending on the threat level of the Shinju “overall”, Koji’s statement could be potentially viewed as “Are you trying to destroy this Reality/Universe?” And I don’t think it’s too far-fetched given the inclusion of Reality/Universe altering abilities like Omnipotence.

At this point, everything really hinges on what Koji “Saw”. Maybe he somehow gained the ability to see the future like the Toad Sage(?).
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Broski I'm all for Kishi confirming Universal Naruto and I scale Naruto higher than what the site does but ******* lmfao
 
MinatoSparkle said:
That's not really relevant to the original point, which was this


? Then what were you talking about? The fact that slowing down at all from Infinite speed would get you blitzed? Cause not really, they could still react, and DB characters don't often just interrupt each other mid speech. Like there was literally a joke sequence where that trio of girls did a long speech and transformation sequence and everyone was mad when 17 interrupted them.

Ofc. Lightning x (Boruto + Naruto)>>Boruto + Naruto>>>>>>>>>Lightning x Boruto>>Boruto
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Lightning rasengan > Normal rasengan.
Therefore, Lightning cho odama rasengan > Cho odama rasengan.
Why is it an argument?
 
Godernet said:
the mechanics didn’t change, as far as we have always known, the vertigo effects are the semipermanent part of Uzuhiko not the physical damage. We see this with Code who was disoriented but not constantly damaged further by Uzuhiko. Not to mention Hidari was instantly finished off by Kawaki before we got to see much of an aftermath to him taking Uzuhiko so nothing was shown that contradicts that.

Also Uzuhiko isn’t permanent damage, it’s continuous mental damage. Hidari’s ability to regen doesn’t really change anything.

Not to mention Boruto can just turn off the vertigo effect as we saw with Code, so it’s possible he didn’t even use it that way on Hidari since he was trying to kill him in one shot.

Nothing mechanically changed for Uzuhiko with the latest chapter.
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Code was experiencing physical pain though. It's why he was holding his gut when he collapsed in the Juubi dimension. Physical pain can only be gotten from physical damage. That physical damage definitely was sustained by Uzuhiko's power coursing through his body.

"Due to unceasing nature of the planet, the effects of Uzuhiko do not fade, resulting in not just physical harm but untold psychological damage."

However, you are right about Hidari not having enough panels to show the effects before collapsing. If Uzuhiko's mechanics didn’t change, then the power of Uzuhiko is constantly coursing through Hidari's remaining body.
I believe Hidari should get partial durability feat for surviving Uzuhiko's sustained near-full power and physical damage.
 
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Kayzz said:
Code was experiencing physical pain though. It's why he was holding his gut when he collapsed in the Juubi dimension. Physical pain can only be gotten from physical damage.
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Migraines make you throw up and shit, and dizziness leads to nausea all the time.
 
Kayzz said:
Lightning rasengan > Normal rasengan.
Therefore, Lightning cho odama rasengan > Cho odama rasengan.
Why is it an argument?
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the argument is not if it is greater. The argument is if the difference is even significant enough to be a factor considering a city block level character is amping the planetary+ rasengan
 
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