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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Arc7Kuroi said:
Now for a power scaling goon question. Do yall believe that Uzuhiko serves as a legitimate cap for the vast majority of the verse? Like capping anyone who’s like weaker than Code below 5-B (600 zettatons)? Cuz to me at least, it seems like a very clear antifeat for the tier 4 or higher metas.
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nope. Uzuhiko has a lot of uknown forces that we have zip knowledge on so i won't say it's a cap but something like high tier 4 and above is too much
HelloThere1089 said:
Good point. I can't find the official translations for that panel tho. I think the version he used on Code, at best, would be an unquantifiable amount above baseline 5-B. And the one against Hidari should be 10x baseline 5-B.

It's starting to look that way from the "author's intent" POV.
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where did 10x come from?
 
lolgutwo said:
Why would any Uzuhiko be 5-B at this point? Now that we know that it works by absorbing energy, we must take into consideration that taking the majority of the planets KE means rather suddenly slowing the planet down significantly. Nowhere is that shown on panel, nor is it stated that the full power of Uzuhiko is equal to the entirety of the KE of the planets revolution. It could be a small part of it. Boruto cannot be juicing 600 Zt from the planet repeatedly unless if its revolution is not like our Earths.

Most likely but tier 4 metas are stupid with or without said cap.
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the planet shook, there was a comment it was at risk of destruction and fiction doesn't follow rules one to one. we talking about a planet that survives a God tree borrowing right through it, having chakra itself. Also what energy exactly do you think is being absorbed
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Fair, but if we’re also being consistent, Boruto doesn’t really “know” Code’s full power w/o Limits. He ran when Sasuke fought him alone and that was the only time they fought, and Code hadn’t used WK against him. So to say Boruto knows the exact amount to beat WK Code isn’t really supported.
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I mean he didn't need to know Code's full power since we see it as a weaker variant and use the incap effect of Uzuhiko to try and negotiate with Code.

A far cry from what he did to Hidari

he didn't know Code's full power but he did guess
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Now for a power scaling goon question. Do yall believe that Uzuhiko serves as a legitimate cap for the vast majority of the verse? Like capping anyone who’s like weaker than Code below 5-B (600 zettatons)? Cuz to me at least, it seems like a very clear antifeat for the tier 4 or higher metas.
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Nah, the 600 zet ish is just one of of the many forces imbueded in Uzuhiko
Which includes Boruto chakra and some other unknown forces which may or may not be revealed later in the future
 
In that case, they should really season their fruits. At least cook it to medium rare or sumn.

Medium rare chakra fruits sound scrumptious tho.
 
Godernet said:
I mean he didn't need to know Code's full power since we see it as a weaker variant and use the incap effect of Uzuhiko to try and negotiate with Code.
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So your argument essentially balls down to Boruto fixed his Uzuhiko to kill a stronger Code while making baseless assumptions on the buff his Enhanced Karma is gonna give him, after 2 years of not seeing him?

And this makes more sense to you than simply Boruto charging his Uzuhiko towards 100%.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Now for a power scaling goon question. Do yall believe that Uzuhiko serves as a legitimate cap for the vast majority of the verse? Like capping anyone who’s like weaker than Code below 5-B (600 zettatons)? Cuz to me at least, it seems like a very clear antifeat for the tier 4 or higher metas.
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Only for Boruto. But anyway, this would only be in relation to durability, right? Anyone with durability lower than Unlimited Code would clearly be affected by this. This doesn't stop us from continuing with the level 4 agenda for AP.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
So your argument essentially balls down to Boruto fixed his Uzuhiko to kill a stronger Code while making baseless assumptions on the buff his Enhanced Karma is gonna give him, after 2 years of not seeing him?
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Here is what we know:


I think it was less a baseless assumption on Boruto's part and more a desire to incap Code with the vertigo effect of Uzuhiko to preserve his life and get info on the Juubi rather than kill him in one shot.

Especially since its implied prolonged use of Uzuhiko could affect the Planet.

And we see what happens when he brings an Uzuhiko to even a partial charge against Hidari.
NeoKingOfLight said:
And this makes more sense to you than simply Boruto charging his Uzuhiko towards 100%.
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yurp
 
It would be interesting if Kawaki is written in a way where he, in pursuit of eradicating the Otsutsuki, starts acting like one. I mean the groundwork is already there with the "no training" stuff. But maybe in the future he starts eating chakra fruits and then realises how much his obsession and paranoia has turned him into an Otsutsuki philosophy wise (Machiavellian). It will be a pretty good EOS realisation moment.
 
Everyone is talking about power, but this regeneration of Hidari's soul is very high. He physical body apparently needs to restore with help, but his soul turned to dust and then restored itself.
 
Godernet said:
Here is what we know:


I think it was less a baseless assumption on Boruto's part and more a desire to incap Code with the vertigo effect of Uzuhiko to preserve his life and get info on the Juubi rather than kill him in one shot.

Especially since its implied prolonged use of Uzuhiko could affect the Planet.

And we see what happens when he brings an Uzuhiko to even a partial charge against Hidari.

yurp
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Makes sense. I should’ve reread the chapter fully. 👌
 
I wonder how Kawaki feels when his only W so far is finishing of the 20% remains of Hidari
 
So do yall think Jura has actual TK or just that he could control the thorn seed due to being a Shinju
 
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Arc7Kuroi said:
Yeah Boruto pm confirmed that the Uzuhiko vs Code was a nerfed/held back version when he says the one against Hidari is the maximum output version. So uh, I’m gonna have to roll back my 5-B upgrades. It’s going to prolly just Boruto being 5-B with Uzuhiko until someone tanks the maximum output Uzuhiko 😔 and all other 5-Bs will go to Low 5-Bs
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Boruto said he was halfway there though vs Code. And there were still a couple of seconds that passed before he hit Code with the main thing.
10% Uzuhiko's calc is still planet-level.
 
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lolgutwo said:
Why would any Uzuhiko be 5-B at this point? Now that we know that it works by absorbing energy, we must take into consideration that taking the majority of the planets KE means rather suddenly slowing the planet down significantly. Nowhere is that shown on panel, nor is it stated that the full power of Uzuhiko is equal to the entirety of the KE of the planets revolution. It could be a small part of it. Boruto cannot be juicing 600 Zt from the planet repeatedly unless if its revolution is not like our Earths.

Most likely but tier 4 metas are stupid with or without said cap.
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No, the planet's rotational forces are seemingly perpetual (at least to the end of the solar system which is still a theory), so taking something almost infinite shouldn't do jack to the planet.
The 600+ zt is equivalent to one cycle (a full year) which is the bare minimum for a complete revolution.
Do you know if Boruto takes two or more years' worth of the revolutional force for its full power? That's why the power has no limit in the first place when you compare it to potential billions of revolution cycles into the future. We just have to accept the energy mechanic as different.
 
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HelloThere1089 said:
In that case, they should really season their fruits. At least cook it to medium rare or sumn.

Medium rare chakra fruits sound scrumptious tho.
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this is giving speed o sonic vibes
Kayzz said:
Boruto said he was halfway there though vs Code. And there were still a couple of seconds that passed before he hit Code with the main thing.
10% Uzuhiko's calc is still planet-level.
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not sur was in reference to the jutsu itself as opposed to uzuhiko effects being split into two.
I personally think the uzuhiko takes up the rotational and orbital spin immediately and the other forces are added as he charges it up. It makes sense why code was still affected by the rotational energy regardless since he was already connected and why daemon mentioned specifically he was already using the planet spin. so for me baseline uzuhiko already contains the spin energy and then boruto charges it to max by adding the other unknown forces. These forces would probably be touched soon
 
GTsek said:
Sumire 5-B. She took Hidari's Raiton and was fine...
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We need to judge based on what the attack is meant to do. Chidori Nagashi is more a defense than an attack. It's meant to stun an opponent and prevent movement. Now since it did what it was intended, Sumire did not tank it.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Why is it a better assumption to say the held back/nerfed Uzuhiko utilized the full rotational and revolution energy of the earth as opposed to the maximum output?
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because of the mechanics of the jutsu. It's a jutsu who's mechanics for the second part depends on these energies being connected to the person it is unleashed on to cause psychological damage continously till the person dies. So personally, I would think that nerfed or not those specific energy would always be fully there to maximizes those aftereffects. I'm more inclined to believe that the fully charged is in reference to the other energies they refused to disclose which would help deal more potent damage.
 
karo_senpaii said:
because of the mechanics of the jutsu. It's a jutsu who's mechanics for the second part depends on these energies being connected to the person it is unleashed on to cause psychological damage continously till the person dies. So personally, I would think that nerfed or not those specific energy would always be fully there to maximizes those aftereffects. I'm more inclined to believe that the fully charged is in reference to the other energies they refused to disclose which would help deal more potent damage.
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The way Boruto explained it felt like Code took the full thing
 
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