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Could have used sage mode and extend the mode
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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We do see stars within the dimension, and his age is listed as 1000+ on the wiki, so why not (arbitrarily) say it took 1000 years/roughly the same amount of time for Kaguya to construct hers?
Assuming a vague 2e+57 Joule amout needed to create, and a timeframe of 4.734e8 seconds (same as Kaguya's), we'd get 4.22e+48 J/s, which is around Solar level.
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How exactly?
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Nah, you can't just assume 1000 yrs. You'd have much more luck assuming the age of Nard's universe.We do see stars within the dimension, and his age is listed as 1000+ on the wiki, so why not (arbitrarily) say it took 1000 years/roughly the same amount of time for Kaguya to construct hers?
Assuming a vague 2e+57 Joule amout needed to create, and a timeframe of 4.734e8 seconds (same as Kaguya's), we'd get 4.22e+48 J/s, which is around Solar level.
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is he stated to have created this?We do see stars within the dimension, and his age is listed as 1000+ on the wiki, so why not (arbitrarily) say it took 1000 years/roughly the same amount of time for Kaguya to construct hers?
Assuming a vague 2e+57 Joule amout needed to create, and a timeframe of 4.734e8 seconds (same as Kaguya's), we'd get 4.22e+48 J/s, which is around Solar level.
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What would the proof of Kaguya’s physicals being > Hagoromo’s TK be?
But more seriously, 1000+ means that 1000 years would be a highball. So that’s probably why we don’t arbitrarily assume 1000 years.
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It's not just a random age, I specifically chose the age we have listed for Momoshiki, which is 1000+. That's the only reference value we can use, unless you want to use the argument that he began construction when they decided to head for Earth, since he does say that the nursery was created right after/right before I forgot mentioning that the 8 tails is on the planet there
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Kuram absorbs nature energy which pools into both their chakra, mode finishes when all the nature energy in the surrounding has depleted
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I mean, what age can we use? 10,000? Anything else would be far too arbitraryWhat would the proof of Kaguya’s physicals being > Hagoromo’s TK be?
But more seriously, 1000+ means that 1000 years would be a highball. So that’s probably why we don’t arbitrarily assume 1000 years.
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I’m like 99% sure that in context a nursery in Naruto is like a planet that an Otsutsuki owns that they “nurse” chakra from. Like iirc Kaguya’s nursery was Earth.
you’d have to kinda scour everything we got to see if there’s something good.
you’d have to kinda scour everything we got to see if there’s something good.
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Physicals? Probably not but her "strongest jutsus" should in theory be stronger than Hag's TK because otherwise why the hell did it take months just to seal her? And Hagoromo calling Kaguya more powerful than any other so that means she should have something that's more powerful than his TK.
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I guess we could use the timeframe necessary for rocky-planet formation, which would be around 10 million years, which would give us around
6.3376176e+42 J/s
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Sure, but he says he created it. He also calls Earth a nursery and so does Kaguya but she never really mentions creating it, only owning it. It's called a nursery in this context because it's used to dump the Bijuu in.
Whilst the movie novelization isn't canon to the anime, we can infer that some ideas were still roughly the same, and I think an argument could be made that that sentence still applies/hasn't been changed since the movie. But you'd have to make a good argument which I don't want to or have the necessary time to or the off the top of my head knowledge for.
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Her strongest jutsu already scales above it.
Right so if the nursery is a planet. I don’t see how that can be used for support of the stellar metas. Rather that can be used in support of Momo having like 5-B overtime creation hax (more conservatively) to 5-B support (more liberally).
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I assumed the age of irl Universe as a lowball since Naruto earth is called "Earth". So it's reasonable to assume that their main universe is also as old as ours. So even if Momo was born at the very start of this universe he'd have somewhere around E18 secs to create his dimension. This is only useful if multi solar dimension gets accepted. Anything less is useless.
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Yeah, that's fine too I think.
In that case, I guess the 'few days timeframe' can be used, given the fact that he might've created it when heading towards Earth as to not encroach on another Otsutsuki's territory (in this case, Isshiki) or something akin to that.
Assuming Earth GBE:
2.487e+32 Joules / 259200 seconds (around 3 days, I don't remember the actual timeframe, it might've been 2 months) = 9.5949074e+26 Joules, which seems very pathetic
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You could also make an argument for the time difference between capturing Gyuki and going to the Chunin Exams which might be a few hours?
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That one requires IT. Even ITless Kaguya should be Low 5-B to some degree since iirc he fears her power.
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And ITless ETSO
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I'll rewatch the Momoshiki stuff to scour for feats/statements I guess
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Oh yeah, in the Boruto anime, Jigen has a statement where he says he physically moved the dimension the Juubi is kept in.
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This is really vague tho because Kaguya does the same thing with her dimensions.
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How strong hypothetically would be a "composite" naruto/borutoverse be excluding the games but everything else is included, anime, novels, movies whatever
From my experience composited verses are broken. composite Dragon Ball and Saint Seiya for example are terrifyingly strong
From my experience composited verses are broken. composite Dragon Ball and Saint Seiya for example are terrifyingly strong
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Nard would be 2B
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Btw, what's the radius of the Naruto Earth? I wanna do smn real quick. I don't know what size we accept
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Noodles is that you?
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2-C is like the absolute max friggin wank rating I can conceive of.
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Use 6371 Km
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Hating assDefinitely not
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Okay so, Momoshiki has a statement about wanting to basically blow up the Earth's surface, aka 'till it' and he attempts to do so with that giant Bijuu Dama he absorbed from Gyuki. We generally speaking know they vaporize stuff with destruction (as seen when Momo redirects the Bijuu Dama, and basically every other Bijuu Dama calc we have here) and this feat could be pretty strong if I knew what depth of destruction to use
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Don't we assume for those common reference feats that it's usually not done via vaporization?
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Bijuudama vaporizing in mountain to multi mountain sized areas does not mean they’d vaporize on a planetary scale. So I don’t see why we’d assume he’s vaporizing the entire surface.
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Without any arbitrary assumptions (so no vaporization end), this would just be 180-640 petatons depending on the type of explosion. If you prove that it's a vaporization, we could reverse engineer the given formula to get a vaporization end.
Edit: But what's the purpose of this? Are you planning to scale the Bijuu and ten tails to this?
