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No there is a reason it got canned.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
MinatoSparkle
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HelloThere1089
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I'd like some exposition dump in Boruto ngl
HelloThere1089
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Based
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Eternally coping over The Hunters Guild: Red Hood.
HelloThere1089
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Funny how Samurai 8, while a having shitty sales compared to where it should’ve been for Kishimoto, CONSISTENTLY sold more than “Yokozuna Family”, and the two were peer manga, coming out around the same time. Both were CONSISTENTLY in the bottom of WSJ ratings but they let “Yokozuna Family” cook and cancelled S8, the more “successful” of the two.
Now “Yokozuna Family” got a ******* anime…
Now “Yokozuna Family” got a ******* anime…
HelloThere1089
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I think Kishimoto being a well known author at the time and still failing to do the numbers is a huge part of the reason. A good entrepreneur will always judge by potential. So it kinda makes sense in that regard. Coupled that with Kishi rushing the lore probably made them lose confidence in it.Funny how Samurai 8, while a having shitty sales compared to where it should’ve been for Kishimoto, CONSISTENTLY sold more than “Yokozuna Family”, and the two were peer manga, coming out around the same time. Both were CONSISTENTLY in the bottom of WSJ ratings but they let “Yokozuna Family” cook and cancelled S8, the more “successful” of the two.
Now “Yokozuna Family” got a ******* anime…
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Sure, but from a business perspective, they still cancelled the better performing series.
HelloThere1089
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I'm talking from a business perspective tho. A lot goes into decision making than just raw numbers.
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Huh? Did we read the same manga cause it says that genjutsu is controlling the chakra flowing through your cranial nerves and that it works on your opponent's five senses.
If you want to steelman you can argue it doesn't work out of verse since only Narutoverse has chakra pathways etc. But you know energy equalization and all that jazz.
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You mean it's working as an illusion?
Only Sasuke saw through the force field illusion before he mentioned it to Sakura and Naruto was going"?" as they talked about it.
So out of curiosity what does this prove? Cause it looks like it doesn't prove anything since everyone involved has chakra and nothing shows genjutsu working on people without chakra.
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Kishimoto must be tired of creating Naruto content, he could milk that cashcow dry with prequels
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Where do you get your raw Naruto chapters from?
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More Otsutsuki lore (please give us feats beyond 5-C)
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Naruto Really Smart Ig (Naruto Intelligence Rework)
Introduction: I plan on proving that Naruto should gain a separate intelligence rating through his understanding of nature, and the “tiering” of said rating should be Extraordinary Genius under our standards. Defining Terms: Before delving into the evidence for this rating, I wish to first...
MinatoSparkle
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Testarossa002
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Sending through discord should work
I'll send you a PM
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then you need to read again, objectively the continuity of the sentence is
1. Genjutsu works by controlling the 5 senses.
2. To control the chakra flowing through their cranial nerves.
hence why Jiraiya verbatim states that WHILE your inside a genjutsu your chakra is being controlled by the enemy.
its objectively Senses> Chakra and not Chakra>Senses, this is supported by every single instance of how genjutsu actually functions in the series as well.
thats not a steelman thats a safety net for people who dont like their verse or characters being effected by Genjutsu so they would rather misinterpret the series instead of having the characters have resistance like everyone else does.
its some 2012's mediocre battle boarding premises that should stay in the last decade where it belongs.
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Bayonetta solos Narutoverse because she slays and mothers harder than any of these wimpy little men
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HelloThere1089
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What's this from?
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I love how changing one word makes the sentence have a complete different meaning. Cause the exact quote is "Naruto... GENJUTSU WORKS ON YOUR OPPONENTS'S FIVE SENSE. YOU CONTROL THE CHAKRA FLOWING THROUGH THEIR CRANIAL NERVES." Which kinda ***** on your whole reasoning your using here since it's not what you said cause you know the BY is missing. It also shows that objectively chakra > senses, and it's shown as in the picture in the correct usage to be proven true.
Also is there any evidence for genjutsu working on people without chakra?
How is genjutsu gonna work on someone without any chakra? If you say that you willingly have to misinterpret the quote?
Bring it back, bring back the golden days of memes and coping and lies.
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Does it really matter anyway? Verse Equalisation is a thing
I tend to agree that Genjutsu doesn't require chakra though
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I tend to agree that Genjutsu doesn't require chakra though
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IIRC I even said that in my first or second post.
What is this minecraft magic?I tend to agree that Genjutsu doesn't require chakra though
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Wdym lol
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since Genjutsu doesn't require chakra, it can still be resisted with those with Mind resistance?Does it really matter anyway? Verse Equalisation is a thing
I tend to agree that Genjutsu doesn't require chakra though
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Yeah for sure, unless I'm missing something
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By the way is this novel canon? I'm gonna go over it, it might have some good statements
www.viz.com
It already has a statement hyping Hiruzen up, lol
Statement that the regular clone jutsu is genjutsu
Statement that beginning of series Sasuke is near chunin level
Aura of Zabuza and Kakashi
VIZ: See Naruto: Innocent Heart, Demonic Blood
Naruto, a born troublemaker, has the worst grades of anyone at Ninja Academy. But he has big dreams and swears that someday he'll be a respected warrior and the leader of his village! After barely graduating from the academy, Naruto officially becomes a full-fledged ninja and starts accepting...
www.viz.com
It already has a statement hyping Hiruzen up, lol
Statement that the regular clone jutsu is genjutsu
Statement that beginning of series Sasuke is near chunin level
Aura of Zabuza and Kakashi
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its almost as if I specifically listed them as two different points because they not one sentence
its as if they separate by something indicating the sentence is over. but because you want to play semantics, the actual structure of the dialogue is
1. an explanation of what Genjutsu is
2. How its used
they not a step by step guide, otherwise we would have gotten an ellipsis or restructuring of the sentence to emphasize their relationship. but you would know this if you actually read the chapter instead of just quoting the scan.
the point of this lesson isnt to teach naruto how to use genjutsu but for him to understand what it is and what they target as a means of defending himself.
"While In Genjutsu The Chakra in your Head is controlled by your opponent"
If the act of being in a genjutsu is what allows the person control over your chakra then you should start questioning how the catalyst for the ability's effect is reliant on the effect having already taken place, unless your willing to throw away continuity for the sake circular mechanics or shall we ignore the fact that one of the primary means of avoiding getting caught in genjutsu in the first place requires you protect one of your primary senses?
Definition of By
"identifying the agent performing an action" or "indicating the means of achieving something"
Quote in question.
" You Control The chakra flowing through the Cranial nerves"
Definition of You
"used to refer to the person or people that the speaker is addressing" = Identifying the agent
Definition of Control
"the power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events."
Control is an Adverb = "performing an action"
Unless you wanna argue the floor has a chakra system. (also funny how you can set up a genjutsu ahead of time before the time before a single person arrives..how strange)
by targeting their senses, like genjutsu does..or maybe you want specifics?
How about effecting the particles in the air to refract light in a way that deceives your opponents eyes ?
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I doubt It's canon
Given that it's just retelling of manga events with more spice
Sasuke viewing SoL Haku in Slow motion
Given that it's just retelling of manga events with more spice
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I can't read Japanese.
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By the way is this novel canon? I'm gonna go over it, it might have some good statements
VIZ: See Naruto: Innocent Heart, Demonic Blood
Naruto, a born troublemaker, has the worst grades of anyone at Ninja Academy. But he has big dreams and swears that someday he'll be a respected warrior and the leader of his village! After barely graduating from the academy, Naruto officially becomes a full-fledged ninja and starts accepting...
It already has a statement hyping Hiruzen up, lol
Statement that the regular clone jutsu is genjutsu
Statement that beginning of series Sasuke is near chunin level
Me and a buddy of mine went over this novel before on Discord
It's like soft canon at best as there are some contradictions in this novel to the wave arc
Like for example Kurama's corpse remains on the battlefield after Minato seals the spirit in Naruto ( weird I know )
Though you're right about one thing, it does have some neat statements ( such as the High Genin level Sasuke stuff )
Also more consistency for LS Haku ( as if the manga/anime/databook didn't already hammer it in enough )
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Holy mac and cheese thanks for conceding that fast you unironically proved my point about genjutsu controlling the chakra in your head. I actually don't know what to say cause of that. Seeing as you just proved my point for me.its almost as if I specifically listed them as two different points because they not one sentence
its as if they separate by something indicating the sentence is over. but because you want to play semantics, the actual structure of the dialogue is
1. an explanation of what Genjutsu is
2. How its used
they not a step by step guide, otherwise we would have gotten an ellipsis or restructuring of the sentence to emphasize their relationship. but you would know this if you actually read the chapter instead of just quoting the scan.
the point of this lesson isnt to teach naruto how to use genjutsu but for him to understand what it is and what they target as a means of defending himself.
"While In Genjutsu The Chakra in your Head is controlled by your opponent"
Ah this is the word soup part to try and prove a point neat.
So bout that.
Unless you wanna argue the floor has a chakra system. (also funny how you can set up a genjutsu ahead of time before the time before a single person arrives..how strange)
by targeting their senses, like genjutsu does..or maybe you want specifics?
How about effecting the particles in the air to refract light in a way that deceives your opponents eyes ?
Maybe it's still messing with the chakra inside of them like the scan you posted and this one which states that you got to disrupt the chakra inside of you cause its being interference from another.
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Reading Comprehension devil strikes again, reread.
Senses Are effected>Genjutsu > Controls Chakra
what struggling to keep up?
This literally proves my point "the Jutsu can be evoke by simply looking eye to eye" the eye is one of the primary sensesSo bout that.
every single genjutsu thats ever been used in the series has an explanation of how it works either within the series or in the databooks and none of them work the way you think genjutsu works.
yes once your under Genjutsu your chakra is being messed with by the person who put you in a genjutsu, this is consistent with what we have been telling you, that genjutsu controls your chakra as oppose to your chakra being controlled to make genjutsu, the reason why this works is the same reason why some genjutsu can be broken out of with Pain, its an external force that causes disruption.
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Bro are you really saying that after posting a scan that disproves this?
No not really when you can't even read your own scan that says they controlling the chakra inside of your brain but hey lets make comments about struggling to keep up.
Ah selective reading it seems kinda explains this situation now that I think of it. Maybe I should have used the highlight feature for you at the bottom cause you seem to be ignoring it.
*Stares at the images that disprove what you've been saying.every single genjutsu thats ever been used in the series has an explanation of how it works either within the series or in the databooks and none of them work the way you think genjutsu works.
yes once your under Genjutsu your chakra is being messed with by the person who put you in a genjutsu, this is consistent with what we have been telling you, that genjutsu controls your chakra as oppose to your chakra being controlled to make genjutsu, the reason why this works is the same reason why some genjutsu can be broken out of with Pain, its an external force that causes disruption.
So we just going to ignore them and act like they don't exist? Cause you know genjutsu is done by controling the chakra inside of your cranial nerves and how to counter it doesn't give it away anymore.
Makes you think on why disturbing your chakra flow is important hmmm.
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Lol you just proved your-self wrong,Bro are you really saying that after posting a scan that disproves this?
No not really when you can't even read your own scan that says they controlling the chakra inside of your brain but hey lets make comments about struggling to keep up.
Ah selective reading it seems kinda explains this situation now that I think of it. Maybe I should have used the highlight feature for you at the bottom cause you seem to be ignoring it.
*Stares at the images that disprove what you've been saying.
So we just going to ignore them and act like they don't exist? Cause you know genjutsu is done by controling the chakra inside of your cranial nerves and how to counter it doesn't give it away anymore.
