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I explained why he scales physically, but if you need more evidence, he physically clashed with with Lee, and that was before he was suppressed to be mindless and a killing machine by Kabuto.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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So he'd scale to whatever Base Lee will scale to?
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No, Edo Haku and co. just charged at him.
Again, no. He was stated to be superior to both Zabuza and Kakashi.
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That was forPart I Kakashi though? Unless you think that Kakashi hasn't gotten any stronger since Part I, or Zabuza became stronger in death?
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The gap in strength for Kakashi didn't start showing up till vs Pain.
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Wait, yeah, you're right. He was in the mirror, attacked Sai & co, then charged at Lee.
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I'm not sure if that counts or not, but it might.
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do we consider the lariat statement to be hyperbole?
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So what exactly are you proposing? Scale Haku above War Arc Kakashi?
Because all I see from Haku is taking hits from KN0 Naruto, Part II Base Lee, Base Guy, and clashing with Part II Base Lee.
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We do, but I'm not sure why since the statement in in the description and not hype text.
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apparently the raikage statement is a simile?
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I've never met Hapi personally, but his arguments are valid
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Yes, around that level. I'm not sure why you keep... blatantly ignoring the scaling I'm saying when he's comparable to people who are deemed threats to the Akatsuki, and we never once see his full strength till the war.
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didnt kakashi's kamui amount skyrocket in the war arc?
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Most during the Pain arc, he used it twice, but one usage against Deidara early in Part 2 had him incapped for a while.
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Because the Statement is about Part I Kakashi not War Arc Kakashi
Part II Base Lee, Base Guy, and Base Kisame do not scale to War Arc Kakashi nor have they in any previous scaling.
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He used it three times against Deidara (teleported his arm, tried to get his head, and explosion) and incapped himself
He used it twice in Pain Arc (teleported a nail and a rocket) and died.
He used it a few times in the war but Kurama kept amping him.
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That's... very false. Kakashi's powercliffing was marginal until vs Kakuzu, which he is only comparable, but inferior to. So it's not like it's some drastic change, considering that Base Kabuto is considered his equal, and he is unsure of taking on Orochimaru. Meanwhile, Kakashi is only using just his base Sharingan against the SNSOTM, and ultimately beat Zabuza (but not Haku, he sacrificed himself, again) again. So, what you're saying is completely incorrect.
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So you really think that Kakashi during Part I is still the same Kakashi during the War Arc that fought Obito, and V2 Jinchuriki
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I know a good amount of people off site who do
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You're doing a wonderful job of ignoring my points entirely, considering I just said:
And not his MS, so.
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Zabuza is consistently above Kakashi in both fights, and he says Haku would beat him. Very straightforward.
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So MS makes is what makes Kakashi on the same physical tier as Obito and V2 Jinchuriki then?
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He uses his MS when he gets serious, such as when he said he would blow away all 5 Bijuudama with Kamui.
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And how does that affect his Striking Strength, Lifting Strength, and Durability?
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I come back like an hour and a half later and y’all are talking about the best boi
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I'm unsure about scaling Haku to High 7-A, War Arc Kakashi's Tier. I know that Haku was holding back to not kill Naruto and Sasuke, but any effort from him would lol stomp both. And even if Haku was holding back and not wanting to kill them, I'm pretty sure Haku didn't want to be trashed by KN0 either.
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The same way Sasuke is notably stronger with his MS, the same way Itachi is, like????
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Sharingan raises physicals now?
I could've sworn we tackled that
I could've sworn we tackled that
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Part I | Zabuza is Kakashi's Physical Benchmark
Part II (Pre-Fourth Shinobi World War) | Kakuzu is Kakashi's Physical Benchmark
Part II (Fourth Shinobi World War) | Rinnegan Obito/V2 Jinchuruki is Kakashi's Physical Benchmark
