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Yeah, but his feats against KN0 Naruto, Base Lee, and Base Guy were mostly Durability and Reaction feats anyway.

His AP mostly comes from his knowledge on the usage of Needles, and Acupuncture.

Does Haku have any Striking Strength Feats?
I explained why he scales physically, but if you need more evidence, he physically clashed with with Lee, and that was before he was suppressed to be mindless and a killing machine by Kabuto.
 
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Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals (Makyou Hyoushou) Kekkei Genkai, Offensive, Close to mid-range User: Haku The technique carved in cursed blood, inside the demonic mirrors is Haku’s phantom world!! The abominable and tremendous ability, passed down only within Haku’s clan… The Kekkei Genkai: Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals is a technique wrapped up in many mysteries. Only one thing is clear: it is said that no method in existence can defeat this technique. In an instant, multiple mirrors of ice are created around the enemy, reflecting nothing but Haku. For Haku, it’s possible to move between the mirrors at the speed of light. It’s impossible to see attacks send out from this literal light speed movement. For the opponent, nothing is left but to wait in amazement. Every single ice mirror shows Haku’s reflection!? Under these circumstances, one could say it’s impossible to see all of Haku’s attacks. Naruto tries to attack the real body, but the moment after he starts his attack, Haku has already moved to another mirror.

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So what exactly are you proposing? Scale Haku above War Arc Kakashi?

Because all I see from Haku is taking hits from KN0 Naruto, Part II Base Lee, Base Guy, and clashing with Part II Base Lee.
Yes, around that level. I'm not sure why you keep... blatantly ignoring the scaling I'm saying when he's comparable to people who are deemed threats to the Akatsuki, and we never once see his full strength till the war.
 
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Yes, actually. I'm not sure why you keep... blatantly ignoring the scaling I'm saying when he's comparable to people who are deemed threats to the Akatsuki, and we never once see his full strength till the war.
Because the Statement is about Part I Kakashi not War Arc Kakashi
Part II Base Lee, Base Guy, and Base Kisame do not scale to War Arc Kakashi nor have they in any previous scaling.
 
didnt kakashi's kamui amount skyrocket in the war arc?
He used it three times against Deidara (teleported his arm, tried to get his head, and explosion) and incapped himself
He used it twice in Pain Arc (teleported a nail and a rocket) and died.
He used it a few times in the war but Kurama kept amping him.
 
Because the Statement is about Part I Kakashi not War Arc Kakashi
Part II Base Lee, Base Guy, and Base Kisame do not scale to War Arc Kakashi nor have they in any previous scaling.
That's... very false. Kakashi's powercliffing was marginal until vs Kakuzu, which he is only comparable, but inferior to. So it's not like it's some drastic change, considering that Base Kabuto is considered his equal, and he is unsure of taking on Orochimaru. Meanwhile, Kakashi is only using just his base Sharingan against the SNSOTM, and ultimately beat Zabuza (but not Haku, he sacrificed himself, again) again. So, what you're saying is completely incorrect.
 
That's... very false. Kakashi's powercliffing was marginal until vs Kakuzu, which he is only comparable, but inferior to. So it's not like it's some drastic change, considering that Base Kabuto is considered his equal, and he is unsure of taking on Orochimaru. Meanwhile, Kakashi is only using just his base Sharingan against the SNSOTM, and ultimately beat Zabuza (but not Haku, he sacrificed himself, again) again. So, what you're saying is completely incorrect.
So you really think that Kakashi during Part I is still the same Kakashi during the War Arc that fought Obito, and V2 Jinchuriki
 
In an actual battle, Kakashi would stomp Haku in any way shape, or form. The statement of Haku beating him is hyperbole. Haku is just more skilled and more talented than Zabuza, Haku definitely doesn't have more AP than Zabuza or Kakashi.
 
In an actual battle, Kakashi would stomp Haku in any way shape, or form. The statement of Haku beating him is hyperbole. Haku is just more skilled and more talented than Zabuza, Haku definitely doesn't have more AP than Zabuza or Kakashi.
Zabuza is consistently above Kakashi in both fights, and he says Haku would beat him. Very straightforward.
 
I'm unsure about scaling Haku to High 7-A, War Arc Kakashi's Tier. I know that Haku was holding back to not kill Naruto and Sasuke, but any effort from him would lol stomp both. And even if Haku was holding back and not wanting to kill them, I'm pretty sure Haku didn't want to be trashed by KN0 either.
 
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