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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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There's Gaara Taijutsu wank in there iirc.
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In terms of power, without including The Last
Sakura>Kushina>Tsunade>Mei>Jinchuuriki Girls>Temari>Hinata>Tenten>Chiyo>Konan>Kurenai>Anko
I forgot the feats of Pakura and Ino, so I didn't add them. Kurenai vs Konan is also debatable.
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One gets UNO Reversed in their speciality
The other recruits members for their club, fights their teacher, and takes out multiple punks along with her multitasking leader
In conclusion: Debatable
The other recruits members for their club, fights their teacher, and takes out multiple punks along with her multitasking leader
In conclusion: Debatable
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You’re right it’s not. Kurenai one shotsNo the hell it isn't
You did not cook my brother...
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Kurenai and Anko is highly debatable, and she's a tokubetsu Jonin, she has no business being in the same conversation as Konan
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also i can prob find a way to argue Tenten> Hinata if we talking like shippuden era.
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didn't tenten oneshot one of kakuzu's hearts?
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Yes, with one of the Sacred Tools,
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yeah but the tools themselves have insane lore and what not.
though if she misses she would be in deep doodoo
she wont though cause Hinata is subsonic
though if she misses she would be in deep doodoo
she wont though cause Hinata is subsonic
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I find Konan to be quite weak. She doesn't have any AP-Dura feat except for tanking Jiraiya's Katon. She's weak without traps.Kurenai and Anko is highly debatable, and she's a tokubetsu Jonin, she has no business being in the same conversation as Konan
Kurenai sama is pretty good at Genjutsu. I don't think she can break Konan's genjutsu.
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Apollonir.Scale
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Misstranslation. Should have been ''I don't think Konan can survive Kurenai's genjutsu''
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Dunno why this got aired but yall check it out
https://vsbattles.com/threads/moon-...pgrade-lets-do-this-again-but-right-d.173839/
https://vsbattles.com/threads/moon-...pgrade-lets-do-this-again-but-right-d.173839/
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Anko is way stronger than most Tokubetsu Jonin, though. She's nowhere near Konan, but she fought with War Arc "base" Kabuto, who's stronger than Post-TS Base Kabuto, and Kabuto has Kakashi level statements in Part 1. He won, but they could attack at the same speed with the same attack, and seemed kind of comparable.Kurenai and Anko is highly debatable, and she's a tokubetsu Jonin, she has no business being in the same conversation as Konan
Honestly, considering she has CS1 on top of that, Anko's a bit cracked.
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There is no reason tenten should not be working on scientific ninja tools with katasuke
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It's sealed iirc, so she can't use it.
Also, I wouldn't necessarily put her on par with Kabuto given she was off-screened after they "clashed" (we didn't even see how the clash ended, so we can't even say for certain that they clashed evenly). So I'm a bit hesitant to put her on par with someone on Kakashi's level (at least) off of something so vague. I guess you can use it to say she's not a lot slower, tho, which isn't too bad.
You say that as if Kurenai isn't a Jiraiya victim lmao
You do realize that if Konan spent an entire YEAR (no breaks) setting up the 600 Billion papers, that's still 19k per second, right? So miss me with the "she's only good with prep time" nonsense.
Her genjutsu is a short range technique. Konan is a mid range fighter. She'll send her papers to Kurenai and literally rip her apart limb from limb with her massively superior LS.
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How much would you guys put on Konohamaru becoming the new Hokage due to Shikamaru helping Boruto?
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Or that they're superior to Code like Boruto is
Hey I don't make the multipliers, I just work with em
Base Naruto<~Sage Mode Naruto is wild even as a sorta, but alright then
It's not, but it makes him going all out a suspicious assumption. Boruto~Hidari>>Code~Casual Boruto is perfectly fine
It is still presented like Itachi was a threat to Obito in P2
Well, depends on where you got P1 Itachi in stats ig. We don't really know for sure whether he was sick or not back then (I think at least), so it's kinda hard to say for sure.
Perhaps, or maybe something like his arm getting knocked aside after softening the blow before it hits his face
Well yeah they're not elite jonin level, but they should scale to baseline leaf jonin tier
True
Don't forget 511
Just like he's the best Sannin
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So... no. I'd agree with this if not for the fact that Seeing this actually made me go from not wanting to make a list to needing to.
Anyway, not counting random named fodders, featless characters, Blank Period, New Era, Kaguya, summons, or Ayame, who is Teuchi's greatest disciple and therefore > ETSO:
Sakura > Kushina > Tsunade > Prime Chiyo(if she literally bare-knuckle-boxed Hanzo) > Mei > Konan > Yugito > Fuu > Prime Chiyo(More probable estimation) > War Flashback Tsunade > Rin(3-Tails) > Karin > Temari > Tsume(Kiba's mom, the Preta Path had to use a corpse as a shield against her) > Ameyuri Ringo(Wielder of Kiba(the swords), said to have the sharpest cutting blade in the Swordsmen) > Kurotsuchi > Hinata > Tenten > Anko > Pakura(Clashed with a random shinobi as an edo, but chapter 522 seems to suggest that shinobi was Omoi) > Shizune > Kurenai(No fetus) > Samui(Due to being the team leader) > Karui > Ino > Hana(Kiba's sister) > Maki(The jonin who uses Cloth Binding Jutsu) > Yugao(featless in the manga) > Mabui(She's the Jonin who shoots people at light speed) > Tayuya > Rin(No 3-Tails) > Kin Tsuchi > Hanabi > Moegi > That one Elder
Yes, I included way too many people.
MinatoSparkle
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Don't forget Sasuke vs Deidara
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Better late than never
That rests on the assumption that Code was holding back to a significant degree against Code, which I don't really buy. It's neither stated nor shown to be true.Or that they're superior to Code like Boruto is
Sticking to the facts and the only things Eida would actually know are the following:
- Boruto ~ Code in terms of physical stats. Is Boruto slightly superior, maybe, but it'd be a marginal difference at best and one that White Karma should make up for.
- Boruto ~ Shinju Egos (Bug and Hidari specifically, but just like the rest of the fandom, I'm sure Eida made the safe assumption that the other two were on that level as well)
With these things in mind, my initial premise of "Code is inferior to them as a collective" makes the most sense without having to make any additional assumptions beyond just using the feats we see on-screen.
At what point does a multiplier lose its meaning to you then? Cause you should absolutely NOT be able to keep up with someone who's 10-30x faster than you.
Y'know, someone who can throw 10-30 punches in the time it takes you to throw just one?
You're the one who brought up the example of Sage Nard >~ Tendo >~ Base Nard, not me
ahh responseI don't really see it that way.
So? It's not like Itachi's punching power is what'd allow him to potentially beat Obito.
Maybe. It's hard to say for sure what happened, but at least we can safely assume the Chidori made some sort of physical contact with Itachi.
Perhaps.
Good point. I totally did. Peak chapter, so yeah, definitely a worthy addition.
If he didn't continuously lose aura points as the series went on, I'd maybe agree, but as of right now, ehhh.Just like he's the best Sannin
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I don't know about a gap of ">>"
Didn't jura task code with killing boruto in the latest chapter?
Someone who hidari pm died to
Granted, code himself lost to boruto but jura, afaik, had no way of knowing what happened
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Not in any particular order -
1. Sakura
2. Tsunade
3. Mei
4. Konan
5. Kushina
6. Temari
7. Chiyo
8. Karin
9. Yugito
10. Kurotsuchi
Honorable mentions: Guren
Testarossa002
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1. Sakura
2. Chino
3. Kushina
4. Tsunade
5. Temari
6. Konan
7. Yugito
8. Chiyo
9. Pakku
10. Kurenai
11. Anko
12. Shizune
13. Hinata
14. Tenten
15. Ino
Chino: Occular genjutsu that turns you into a bomb, which almost nobody has any intel on. Also has a fair bit going for her stat wise. Sakura edges her because she has A LOT going for her in the stat section, plus a minor advantage of being a genius at genjutsu
Temari: Long-range fighter, has the stats to back it up and battle savvy to top it. I really don't see Konan getting a W
Kurenai: Gets downplayed a lot because her single feat is getting clapped by Itachi. Which would be fine, except for the fact that Itachi is a God tier genjutsu user. It's not like she got clapped by tayuya (forgot about this one. probably below hinata) or something.
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Doesn't Chino also have Sharingan level Ocular Genjutsu? That + Blood Manip is pretty insane.
Also no Mei is criminal, but I'm assuming you just forgot her. W list for the most part tho.
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ngl I forgot about Chino
Though the only fight from her I recall is Post War Sasuke whooping her ass iirc?
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Yes, but that's SASUKE. In the context of regular ass Shinobi, she's quite cracked. She could have Tayuya lvl AP and still be a powerhouse with how insane her bag is tbh.
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Jura tasking Code with that actually just means nothing. Boruto slammed Code on his soft baby head and believes he could easily kill Code (Boruto should be well aware of Code's power). Everything in the narrative right now just says Code is a loser and it's been made abundant that the Shinju Ego would son him.
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my goat
