Yeah I can agree to this
Just checked, she did
You're right on the former. It's true that he can take hits, but his AP doesn't seem like it's up there. Naruto's dura in KCM is stupidly high.
Fair point
Tbh KCM scaling doesn’t really matter now that I think about it. Kakashi scales to the V2 jinchūriki (and by extension Guy), and Obito could swap hands with Kakashi.
Btw what do you think about my proposal for Haku and KN0?
Can you show where? He said he was finished (after he had lost a lot of chakra), and even when punched sustained a cracked mask and a bloody lip.
See here. He explicitly states “I cannot defeat this boy.”
He doesn't say that in Viz, he says he's finished.
Super late derailment but hapi blocked me for correcting him. He has a thing for lying to his audience especially downplaying op. Just found it funny he popped up.
Again, a weakened Haku that had already been suppressed.
I’m aware that Haku was suppressed. Him being weakened makes no sense because he was suppressed, and he ended the fight with Naruto and Sasuke immediately when chakra drain had the potential to become an issue.
No, he was suppressed, as stated by Sasuke, on multiple occasions, and he was getting weaker using Crystal Ice Mirrors.
A consistently stated to be suppressed Haku who wasn't trying to kill either, Sasuke himself saying he's getting weaker after taking more attacks from it than Naruto and beginning to adapt, and from Haku's own mouth says he is losing too much chakra, I think it's fairly consistent.
I frankly don't care.
Considering chakra drain is an absolute killer in Part 1, Kakashi only being able to use the Raikiri 4 times a day, outright telling Sasuke he'll die if he uses it anymore than 2, and him going into a coma after using Kamui once, yeah.
Kamui wasn’t even in Part I, so that’s irrelevant. Also none of those things are the same as going from 7-A to beneath Low 7-C+, despite instantly ending the fight as soon as chakra drain became a concern. I’d love to see an example of someone in Part I becoming that much weaker because of slight chakra drain.
I was just mentioning instances of chakra drain being irrelevant. Also, he didn't even "end" the fight, he went for Sasuke in his non-vitals, like Sasuke and numerous other parties admit to him doing throughout the entire fight, whilst still never trying.
So... he made it so he didn’t have to keep fighting Sasuke. Meaning that he ended the fight.
Yes, once Sasuke and Haku admitted to the latter's attacks getting drastically weaker.
It was to me, pretty sure that elaborated that if you lose like... all of your chakra you die, could be wrong though.
That's how it's always been, but people haven't been shown to get weaker with less chakra.
I have the chapter up, and no such thing is stated. Haku says that his Ice Mirrors expend chakra, and that as the battle goes on, Sasuke will be able to perceive his attacks better. It is not stated that his attacks are getting weaker, just slower.
Especially not to the point of going from 7-A to beneath Low 7-C+...
Well, it's Part 1, and Kishimoto has always had rough, inconsistent lore during that part. I mean, Naruto could hardly stand after losing access to all of his chakra points.
He was wounded from the Juken hits which affected his internal organs.
We need to talk about this right now.
Fair point, but still.
Never been inconsistent.
Sasuke has stupidly large reserves and Kakashi doesn't spam the jutsu.
No, you said that it takes them time, even if a couple seconds, which is never stated.
Sarada literally has her mother's chakra control, there's no reason why she should be running out faster, and it should be argued she has more reserves from the start.
First Databook
Kakashi
Naruto needing to stand and focus for a few seconds just to get enough chakra to walk on a tree.
You just disrespected the living hell out of Sakura by saying that.
Cause they know how to do it good, and everybody is advanced now. Sakura has to mould chakra before she punches, but she's so efficient and quick that it doesn't take that much time.
I accept your concession, gg
