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Naruto: Shippuden Akatsuki (+others) AP upgrade
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Read what i just posted.
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you are assuming it had the same affect as his own bijuu bomb, which you could never prove. i scale it to him because HE IS THE SOURCE/FUEL of the attack
yes.
you said it refers to things like body flicker, not enhancing strength
its not inconsistent if you accept the fact that isshiki was off guard and thus not amping himself with chakra
amping themselves with chakra is just blatantly supported and WAY more consistent than anything else
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My original point was regularly, this is obviously not a regular ass human being, this is Itachi for chirst's sake
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he also has no academy training. itachi or not, hes a 6 year old kid
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What? Are you kidding me? it's kid itachi dude. It's literally telling us this how ninjas fight. Holy crap man.
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@KingTempest Dude please read the entire page.
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Doesn't it say "kept up with their Ninja training" wouldn't that imply kid Itachi has basic training?
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ok so the basic training taught him how to do that. cool
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I obviously agree
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nice
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I agree the biju bombs should be above their normal strikes but not by like 3 tiers thats wild if their normal ap is island for example it should just say higher with biju bombs
Deidaras only hax is c4 which attacks the cells c1 2 and 3 are all ap based and since he didnt kill the 3 tails he Logically had to knock it out with his AP
Deidaras only hax is c4 which attacks the cells c1 2 and 3 are all ap based and since he didnt kill the 3 tails he Logically had to knock it out with his AP
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Hidan: Unless we have a clear feat of him harming or taking a hit from the Two Tails, he's physical statistics wouldn't need to scale to the Two Tails just above Base Yugito.
Sasori: Third Kazekage and Rasa don't necessarily have to scale to Shukaku in AP, they just have to have greater Lifting Strength and Durability with their Iron/Gold Sand to subdue Shukaku.
Deidara: Same as Hidan, his bombs would scale to Bijuu, but not his body unless we have a Striking Strength and Durability feat putting him on that level.
Kisame: He can fight V1 and V2 Jinchuriki, but we don't have a feat of him taking on Bijuu. Maybe with enough water he can physically contend with Bijuu similar to Suigetsu.
Pain: CT doesn't scale to his Striking Strength nor Durability.
Kakuzu: His AP and Striking Strength don't necessarily scale to his Durability with hardened skin it would just be rated as "Higher" unless we have a clear feat of him harming Two Tails.
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i still dont think they should necessarily be above, they can scale normally, but as you said, having them be that low is just ridiculous. and yeah, characters like kakuzu, hidan, deidara, and sasori with the sand should all get that upgrade
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I don't think the Bijuu bombs should necessarily COMPLETELY OUTCLASS everything else. The technique is the basis of the rasengan, just a pressurized ball of the user's chakra. I don't see why it would be 1+ tier higher than everything else in their arsenal.
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Hidan: He doesn't fight base yugito he fights fully transformed yugito
Sasori: The third kazekage is also just stated to be above shukaku iirc
Deidara: He uses his own chakra to mould the bombs, he can amp himself to that level, but it doesnt suit his fighting style.
Kisame: Jinchuuriki are stated to be stronger than bijuu. I don't really care if he's upgraded, since you can easily argue he has hax based attacks that wont normally scale
Pain: Same argument for deidara, except it's used to capture bijuu specifically, rather than the fighting style point
Kakuzu: someone had to have taken the two tails down. if you say its hidan, kakuzu is stated to be stronger so either way kakuzu scales
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i can do this all day.
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Off Panel which means we have no context. What we do know is that he easily harmed and incapacitated Base Yugito, we also see him dodge an attack from Matabi, unlike Kakuzu. He'd just be Tiered as "Possibly 6-C"
Without further context or feats, only their Lifting Strength and Durability with Sand would scale, but maybe with large quantities of sand, they could harm Shukaku.
The point still remains, he'd just be Tiered as "Possibly 6-C" for being able to possibly amp himself to that level
Okay
The same thing, he would be Tiered as "Possibly 6-C" for being able to possibly amp himself to that level
I can compromise with Kakuzu having 6-C AP, SS, and Durability but with his hardened skin.
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Have you contacted more staff?
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I posted on severals message walls, still waiting for a response
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I would say "Likely" is better, since theres no reason to assume she just randomly reverted to base
We know the sand has ap though, and if it's "subdued" it's likely referring to some kind of attack that scales to striking Possibly/Likely is fine
For deidara I'm fine with Possibly 6-C normally, 6-C with bombs
Fine with pain being possibly
kakuzu is pretty blatant with hardening
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U mean from a gag scene??? it’s literally made to be funny dude, that’s doesn’t count at all
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I think he's referencing the time he's talking about how 4t naruto near deathed him. He's pretty serious in that scene
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IIRC the previous assumptions on the previous forum were that she only has a limited amount of time in Bijuu Mode or that she reverted back to base because she left her guard down by thinking she beat them. Basically something among those lines of thought
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Okay
Okay
Okay, but I don't think anyone would scale to Hardened Kakuzu
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im fine with this.
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I'm personally okay with possibly 6-Cs for them if no conclusion can be reached for it. I doubt my opinion means much to others but that seems fine.
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yeah, it seems we are at an impasse, and while i do think the evidence i provided is fine, i will accept what i agreed with above
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We don't need LN for this since manga suggest all ninja can amp thier physical via chakra
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That's not even just a suggestion, that's straight up showing us they amp themselves.
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@Damage3245 and all other staff members in this thread:
Can you summarise the conclusions here please?
Can you summarise the conclusions here please?
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I think that the general consensus from all of the staff members who have commented here so far and the knowledgeable Naruto members such as KingTempest, M3X, etc. is to reject the proposed changes in the OP.
That's my understanding of the last few pages at least.
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