Naruto God Tiers Revision

[AppleLord]

I've been keeping an eye on this for a long time to see if they would be fix. However, I decided to make a account to talk with you about this issues.

Here this one is fine, you got it right:

Pain (Nagato) is Building level | At least City level with Shinra Tensei, Large Island level with Chibaku Tensei | At least City level with Shinra Tensei, Large Island level with Chibaku Tensei (Naruto stated he is stronger than Six Paths of Pain)

Explendid.

Now see the difference down here:

Hagoromo is Small Planet level (Created the moon with his brother) | Small Planet level (Provided Naruto and Sasuke the ability to do the same, by his lonesome awarding him the full value of the calc)

Madara is Small Planet level via power-scaling (Hagoromo stated that Madara approached his power) | At least Small Planet level via power-scaling (Absorbing Shinju tree and awakening Rinne-Sharingan)

Hamura is Small Planet level (Equal to his brother)

I suggest as follows:

Let's start with Hagoromo, for starters he has no feats besides the Moon creation with Hamura.

It should be:

Hagoromo: Unknow | Small Planet level with Chibaku Tensei (Created the moon with his brother) | Small Planet level (Provided Naruto and Sasuke the power needed to do the same.)

Next.

Madara: At least Small Planet level via power-scaling (Hagoromo stated that Madara approached his power, and stronger than Naruto and Sasuke) | Possibly Planet level (Stronger than before absorb the Shinju tree and awakening Rinne-Sharingan, Hagoromo stated that his power approached Kaguya's.)

Hamura: Unknow | Small Planet level with Chibaku Tensei (Equal to his brother)

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Kaguya is only Planet with ETSB and the difference between Low 5-B and 5-B is pretty big

 

[AppleLord]

You're correct. However, same thing applies to Hagoromo. He's only small planet level with Chibaku Tensei, but when he meets Naruto and Sasuke he has the energy require to be Small Planet level.

Madara absorb the Shinju which was Kaguya herself. That's why is possible Planet level, and not Planet level.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Stills, possibly is just highballing him, he is ok where he is now.

 

[Antvasima]

I will ask TheMightyRegulator and Kkapoios.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Kaguya was incredibly weakened and only managed to create the ETSB after (re)gaining more chakra from Naruto's attack.

Madara did not even absorb the chakra from those trapped in the Tsukinoyomi which was pivotal in his transformation into Kaguya in the first place.

Logically, he would not scale.

As for the rest, I've already explained why the god tiers are rated as they are compared to Nagato.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so should we close this thread?

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Well, I wouldn't mind awaiting his response.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[AppleLord]

My doubts were pretty much answered. However, before you close this I've one more question to ask you @TheMightyRegulator

How does a technique such as Chibaku Tensei (Hax + seal) and no matter how easy it's performed, applies to character's AP and Durability, when is only Gravity Manipulation.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Moving any mass in a gravitational field from one point to another requires energy.

I noticed you outlined hax and seal. The only thing about the Chibaku Tensei that's hax is its ability remove ones soul, and as explained in the link above Sasuke outlined that the seal wasn't the main driving force behind the attack as in say, fuuinjutsu, nor is it depicted as such as direct correlations between the seal and the gaining of the Sage's power were made meaning if anything it's a bi-product.

The durability is just a consequence of the character's attacks being scaled to their AP, and not the jutsu itself (again as outlined above, among other things).

 

[AppleLord]

Any power in fiction, including hax requires energy.

That still doesn't explain how does it apply to physical strenght and DC.

There's a problem with that. There are no feats of them able to resist their own attack. If anything they should powerscale to Kaguya for fighting her offscreen.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Any power in fiction, including hax requires energy.

You're referring to unquantifiable abilities such as teleportation, but Universe creation is hax too. Hax or not, if it's quantifiable it can still count for AP (and only a portion of the technique is hax anyway).

That still doesn't explain how does it apply to physical strenght and DC.

There's a problem with that. There are no feats of them able to resist their own attack. If anything they should powerscale to Kaguya for fighting her offscreen.

A moon is formed: it's DC as well. We generally view creation=destruction. AP is just a sub-genre of DC as well.

As for their physical strength and durability, you're correct. This would not scale to their physical stats normally, but their battle with the Juubi is already noted and is likely the reasoning for their current ratings.

 

[AppleLord]

I degrees, all my questions have been answered. Thanks for clearing my doubts on the subject @TheMightyRegulator. You can close this now.