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well considering goku even with prep time forgot about the paper seal needed to complete the Mafuba. I think it is safe to say goku would not win with that.That's assuming Goku even has the container with him.
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well considering goku even with prep time forgot about the paper seal needed to complete the Mafuba. I think it is safe to say goku would not win with that.That's assuming Goku even has the container with him.
Goku has sleep resistances on is profile or sleep-inducing. Goku is faster than he thinks and would blitz incapicitate him , and kill if he needs to if he comes back instant mafuba.Did you look at the rest of the argument? It should be easy for Diablo to escape the Mafuba. Goku never uses the Mafuba. Diablo can have a thought before Goku does anything due to presumably though-based Hax, and has passive Corruption type 3. He also has Sleep Manipulation on a scale of 210 people, and Resurrection if killed.
For the sleep , it was in the toei profile not in super since dbz is considered filler.Just put it this way: Goku NEVER uses the Mafuba in character, let alone in MUI where his body moves on its own, and he probably doesn't even have the seal with him either as its not in his standard equipment.
And no, Goku doesn't have sleep resistance. Even if he did, not on a scale of 210 people.
Yes I know , I realise that it was a different profil and wouldn't apply to dbs goku for some reasons.Then it can't be used here since it's DBS Goku
Goku has no mind-hax resistance and even if he did, its no where near on the level of Mewtwo. Also what would MUI do against mindhax?Reverse , mui + other resistances = Blitzes and ones shots mewtwo no dif.
Wow. A single statement that is meant as a way to hype up the form is being taken literally now?He claims that, since MUI has this one-off statement about perceptions being a blur, instincts taking over and fear and panic becoming Nonexistent, that Goku in UI can shrug off Illusions, Madness Hax, Corruption and Mind Manip, or similar effects.
It is to be taken litteraly , it explains how it works , you have no proof that it doesn't work that way and there is no reason for it to not be as the series decides it to be.Wow. A single statement that is meant as a way to hype up the form is being taken literally now?
Good point. Litwick would can also just absorb Goku's life force GGNgl I don’t think Mewtwo’s the weakest character in Pokemon who beats him.
Shedninja destroys just by turning around, looking at its back = Death GG. Wonder Guard protects it from anything Goku throws at him, which in-character is likely held back and not starting at full force. Shedninja also has plenty of Hax such as reading Goku’s Mind, Confuse Ray (which can vary in degree, from Illusions to full-on Mind Manip), Phantom Force lets it dip around in other dimensions before blindsiding Goku if need be, and he can even stop Healing with Heal Block or lower your Stamina with Spite.
At this point you already know the answer , I will not bring up mui resistances , all I will says is that goku blitzes and one shots instanly , the in character argument is not relevant when he's in mui or here to kill the opponent to death. So mui doesn't hesite and there is no hold back argument ether.Ngl I don’t think Mewtwo’s the weakest character in Pokemon who beats him.
Shedninja destroys just by turning around, looking at its back = Death GG. Wonder Guard protects it from anything Goku throws at him, which in-character is likely held back and not starting at full force. Shedninja also has plenty of Hax such as reading Goku’s Mind, Confuse Ray (which can vary in degree, from Illusions to full-on Mind Manip), Phantom Force lets it dip around in other dimensions before blindsiding Goku if need be, and he can even stop Healing with Heal Block or lower your Stamina with Spite.
Or the 100% case is goku blitzes him and ones shots , end of the battle. Hax do not matter if he gets stomped instantly and is far slower and inferior to goku.Good point. Litwick would can also just absorb Goku's life force GG
-Goku can stop and hit intangible beings look at is profile, also for that pokemon it says that any physical atks with heat will be able to beat and mui goku is surrended by heat or the flames of mui. So no draining , (as if it would work when he would overpower it) , blitzes and one shots no difficulty.Litwick is a ghost type so Goku can even touch it and it drains his life force.
Nop blitzes and one shots , you fail to realise , he's here to kill and mui doesn't hesiste do I have to pull the scans or what. Once more you failed to realise this is not normal goku , it's mui goku , so , blitzes and one shots end of the debate nothing to be added. You can also add that he harm ghost in gt or use spiritual (energy from the affecter life people who are souls).You conveniently ignore that Shedninja’s Power Null is passive via Wonder Guard, the Litwick’s Life-Force Absorption is passive, and that MUI isn’t some magical ‘Lol Bloodlust’ button. He’s still in control of himself, he’s not going to take some enemy seriously when he never takes his enemies seriously until he knows they’re a threat- this is the same guy who gave Cell a Sensu Bean, remember that.
I will say that Goku can likely interact with them though, due to being able to interact with Zamasu who was Intangible, and hitting Hit who was also intangible.
Also you are ignoring ap , and speed. The first thing mui goku doesn , is blitzes that pokemon faster than he can do or think about anything and one shots. Hax do not matter if he gets one shotted or cant react and the soul nonsense argument , since goku's soul is granted a body. Drop that pokemon.Alright now I know you're ******* with us. Goku can't just lolnope any hax because of the fact that he's strong especially when things like a resistance to Soul Manipulation aren't on his profile.
If you're using GT as a way to prove Goku can do whatever headcanon he wants, then we can also bring up the fact that MUI GOKU LITERALLY SPARED MORO IN THE MANGA.Nop blitzes and one shots , you fail to realise , he's here to kill and mui doesn't hesiste do I have to pull the scans or what. Once more you failed to realise this is not normal goku , it's mui goku , so , blitzes and one shots end of the debate nothing to be added. You can also add that he harm ghost in gt or use spiritual (energy from the affecter life people who are souls).
If speed isn't equal then this thread has no purpose of existing. Most characters that are below Low 2-C aren't nearly in the same speed tier as Goku. The OP needs to say that speed is equal or its just a giant thread of Goku lolstomps.Also you are ignoring ap , and speed. The first thing mui goku doesn , is blitzes that pokemon faster than he can do or think about anything and one shots. Hax do not matter if he gets one shotted or cant react and the soul nonsense argument , since goku's soul is granted a body. Drop that pokemon.
Plz read it again , I never said it scales, you have chosen to misunderstand it and twist it and ignore the other intangible feats I presented earlier.It was a simple example.If you're using GT as a way to prove Goku can do whatever headcanon he wants, then we can also bring up the fact that MUI GOKU LITERALLY SPARED MORO IN THE MANGA.
It isn't it was never stated to be , so blitzes and ones shots , next.If speed isn't equal then this thread has no purpose of existing. Most characters that are below Low 2-C aren't nearly in the same speed tier as Goku. The OP needs to say that speed is equal or its just a giant thread of Goku lolstomps.
It would help him resisting one that tries to pool and he should be able to use it just like is own body or outright not working on him at all. And can focus is soulAlso how the hell does Goku's soul having a body allow him to resist soul manipulation?
You forgot that goku is faster and stronger , and would blitz and end the fight , passive or not. It doesn't matter if it's combat applicable, he litteraly is covered with mui heat aura even if not for some reason doesn't matter , he can still it that pokemon and kill beat him.He also forgot that, once again, the Absorption and Power Null is passive, alongside Goku’s Heat Manip being non-Combat applicable, meaning the effects are constantly active and Heat Manip does squat
Ok. The manga is a literal example of the fact that Goku is never bloodlusted. That's not in his character. Otherwise he wouldn't have spared Frieza, or Tao, Moro. MUI is a form that is achived with a calm mind whereas Super Saiyan is a form that is built off of rage. MUI is not some magical bloodlust so that point is moot.Plz read it again , I never said it scales, you have chosen to misunderstand it and twist it and ignore the other intangible feats I presented earlier.It was a simple example.
If it's passive then there is no way for blitz in the first place. Either Goku dies or Litwick and Goku kick the bucket.You forgot that goku is faster and stronger , and would blitz and end the fight , passive or not. It doesn't matter if it's combat applicable, he litteraly is covered with mui heat aura even if not for some reason doesn't matter , he can still it that pokemon and kill beat him.
You failed to realizeOk. The manga is a literal example of the fact that Goku is never bloodlusted. That's not in his character. Otherwise he wouldn't spared Frieza, or Tao, Moro. MUI is a form that is achived with a calm mind. Super Saiyan is a form that is built off of rage. MUI is not some magical bloodlust so that point is moot.
Ether ways , goku blitzes and one shots. Assuming that fodder pokemon passive didn't instantly make him win the fight against other pokemon who should be far weaker than goku.If it's passive then there is no way for blitz in the first place. Either Goku dies or Litwick and Goku kick the bucket.
Whether or not Litwick wins every fight is irellevant because that's just a game mechanic. The Pokedex is always a credible source that we can use.T
Ether ways , goku blitzes and one shots. Assuming that fodder pokemon passive didn't instantly make him win the fight against other pokemon who should be far weaker than goku.
He's willing to kill in battle assumptions , so he blitzes and one shots mui doesn't hesiste. Again idk why you think mui is normal goku , it's not.Yeah but who's to say that Goku of all characters would kill anybody? Even in MUI. For god sake he literally spared Frieza of all people.