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My Hero Academia Plus Ultra Discussion Thread #6

AstralKing7 said:
If tetsu manages to take Shoutos strongest fire attack next chapter and beat todorki then we're gonna have to upgrade him cause it wouldn't just be PIS or an outlier cause it's an outright fight
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Yeah, cause every single fight in existance is outlier-free.

"Fodder" comes from the fact that it makes no sense that Tetsu would just jump to 8-A just because. Shoto is obviously a top tier for the class (Literally being stronger than almost every hero so far) while Tetsu is Kirishima's level (They are not weak of course, but 8-C compared to 8-A is a different story... Obvious outlier is obvious.
 
bro wasnt it literally stated that they have been training???? Like seriously its training and this is a shonen manga. Its not an outlier for someone with a stat amp quirk like him
 
I finally started reading the Chisaki arc. Is good

But I have a question: If Deku can act outside of and change the results predicted by Night Eye, should that not be some kind of resistence to Fate Manipulation or Precog?
 
It was everyone's wishes coming together that did that, at least according to Nighteye's theory. Maybe if MHA supporters wish hard enough he'll be able to use it in vs threads.
 
@Lap Deku by himself doesn't have the ability to change fate, it's just the way the verse operates that multiple people all wishing for the same outcome will lead to that outcome or something along those lines.
 
According to the raws, Shoto has Endeavour's firepower.

Also, perhaps we should add Resistance to Fire/Heat to Tetsu's profile.
 
Tetsutetsu was give heat/fire resistance but it need to be upgraded. Also yes, Shoto is able to equal Endeavor's power, though he can't hold that power for a long time.
 
So both All Might and Endeavor stated that Todoroki's fire surpassed the latter.
 
So there're two possible explanations:

  • Tetsu's 8-A now.
  • He has fire resistance.
The former was discarded so it's the second option. Even Tetsu said so.
 
Therefir said:
So both All Might and Endeavor stated that Todoroki's fire surpassed the latter.
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I heard that was a mistranslation.

It was stated he was equal to Endeavor.
 
Why would he be 8-A?

Tetsutetsu isn't getting an AP upgraded. His flame resistance should be 8-B though.
 
It was considered an outlier because people wanted to upgrade his normal durability to 8-A.

I have no problem in upgrading his durability against fire attacks to 8-B.
 
I agree.

There no reason to assume his flame resistance shouldn't be 8-B now that we've seen this.
 
Why?

It's just a heat resistance feat, he never showed 8-B AP.

It wouldn't really be heat resistance since the man himself was actually starting to melt
 
That's still heat resistance... It's resistance, not immunity. Todoroki pushed Tetsutesu's heat resistance to it's limit. That's still a good resistance feat.
 
AidenBrooks999 said:
Just against Fire and Ice
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I don't think Todoroki hit Tetsutetsu with 8-B levels of ice directly (unless you count the one that was softened which allowed Tetsutetsu to get out of it).
 
Well, the size of the ice attack was similar to the one calced at 8-B (Won't ask to calc this one cause it would be a pain) so I guess it was 8-B


Anyways, he resisted 8-B flames, why would be the same with ice? Specially since technically Fire should be his weakness and Ice naturally wouldn't do anything
 
It's called fire and ice resistance, have you heard of that?

Tetsutetsu literally states he trained his body to handle the intense heat.
 
Yeah but recently a staff member and calc member said iirc fire resistance just depends on a person's durability also is why a lot of profiles don't have fire resistance even tho they can tank certain levels of heat.

That's why I can't agree with him just scaling to 8B against fire attacks when fire basically still deals with the bodies durability
 
Bruh u do realize that still doesn't change the fact that fire resistance is normal durability. A 6B character without fire resistance can tank being in the middle of the sun even tho they don't have fire resistance. It's not about resistance but just durability

I'm still trying t comprehend how Tetsus feats are considered an outlier even after training
 
Tetsutetsu explicitly stated that he trained his body to be fire-resistant, and once again, his normal durability being 8-B would be an outlier because I'm pretty he is going fight other characters in the future, if that happens, are you going to say that Deku, Kirishima or Bakugou are 8-B because they harmed Tetsutetsu?
 
What Therefir said is correct.

It wouldn't be an outlier if later we see more people fighting against Todoroki and gaining an upper hand. But right now it's outlierish to think about 8-B Tetsu.

There're cases where a character is a certain tier but he has resistances to some abilities listed even higher.
 
He said that he "developed" his quirk and he "surpassed" his own limit meaning that he trained. I honestly don't know how that's an outlier either but hey Todoroki flames is stronger then Endeavors

EDIT: also how do we know that Endeavor is faster then 20% Deku?
 
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