My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[TheRustyOne]

I don't really think it'd be an outlier, especially since this would be Joint Training Arc Monoma, which would be a second key. The only one that would scale off the top of my head is Uraraka for overpowering and harming him, and possibly Kendo for harming him as well. Though you could say those moments are gags and don't count, I'm neutral on that.

 

[TheRustyOne]

His profile would look like this.

8% Izuku is 8.12 Tons, which means Monoma's stats would be at least 0.73 Tons (8-C), possibly 2.7 Tons (High 8-C)

Edit: I will make a CRT to discuss this, so we don't clog up this thread.

 

[CloverDragon03]

I think that makes sense.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Random thought, but Edgeshot might be the most slept on hero in the entire manga.

He was trusted enough to come with Endeavor to fight AFO and soloed Re-Destro. Quite built different.

 

[Gitagon]

Yeah, just that his Re-destro fight was offscreened otherwise he could have had as much as clout as even Mirko.

 

[ÆONS]

Random thought, but Edgeshot might be the most slept on hero in the entire manga.

He was trusted enough to come with Endeavor to fight AFO and soloed Re-Destro. Quite built different.

Whenever I see someone mention him I go: "Who in the world is he?" I legit know nothing about him except he is a top hero.

 

[BlackeJan]

I have to bring this up again, but since Twin Impact is stated to increase the power of the second blow by several times.

Wouldn't that mean Monoma's AP would be several times weaker, and several is at least 3X, to at most 11X? Which means At least 8-C, possibly High 8-C Monoma? Since his attack multiplied by several times was able to injure 8% Izuku enough to draw blood.

That would be only the attack itself, not Monoma though

 

[TheRustyOne]

Made the CRT for Twin Impact Monoma.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

How strong would a theoretical 1% Deku be, and what’s the closest real world animal that has a chance to survive Deku at 1-5%?

 

[Earthyboy]

How strong would a theoretical 1% Deku be, and what’s the closest real world animal that has a chance to survive Deku at 1-5%?

If I had to guess, the answer would probably be Building level. And I think the only animal which would have a chance at beating Deku at 1-5%, would be something like a whale maybe, but that's assuming they have supersonic reaction time, and I'm sure they don't.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

1%? Building level??

 

[AtomicSekiro]

I really hope a “full charge Fajin” makes Deku begin to look like how he looked when he bit Shigaraki’s rivet stab when Bakugo got stabbed. Imagine him building up momentum using multiple 100% attacks over and over.

 

[Gitagon]

I wish Fa Jin had it's one "transformation", like red hair alongside red energy/aura.

 

[Spinoirr]

I wish it changed his eye color or something to red eyes or something else and aura covering himself

 

[Gitagon]

Yep, I'm hoping this isn't the end for these quirks and that they have more applications and evolutions.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Kinda sad Nagant’s probably dead now she was amazing while she lasted

But on other hands can we Calc the explosion Deku face tanked with Cook’s formula?
Deku didn’t get to react to or dodge the blast which means it traveled its distance in at least 0.08 seconds (baseline Superhuman timeframe)
Then inverse square law it for Deku’s Dura

 

[TheRustyOne]

I have no idea what that is, though I don't really care. He was at 45% so I highly doubt it'd get higher than Low 7-B results.

Going calc his speed now, might get some good results.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

I have no idea what that is, though I don't really care. He was at 45% so I highly doubt it'd get higher than Low 7-B results.

Going calc his speed now, might get some good results.

I thought he was at 30% and powered down from 45%
well then nvm
Since rough guesses using that formula (Eyeballing no actual measurements so not reliable)
Got 8-A to Low 7-C results for the blast Unironically

 

[TheRustyOne]

He's apparently been using 45% for a lot longer than I thought.

He's at least been using 45% since he grabbed Nagant from his first Fa Jin use, as he stated in this chapter.

 

[Metalballrun]

A statement of All Might being faster than a speeding bullet on top of Faux 100% moving faster than Nagant's bullets. Pretty cool.

I haven't kept up with the discussions and it's been kinda too long. Do we treat Faux 100% as equal to real 100%?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I pray with this subsonic AM finally dies

 

[TheRustyOne]

His Faux 100% is from 45% plus Fa Jin, so yes his 100% should be equal or superior to that.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

A statement of All Might being faster than a speeding bullet on top of Faux 100% moving faster than Nagant's bullets. Pretty cool.

I haven't kept up with the discussions and it's been kinda too long. Do we treat Faux 100% as equal to real 100%?

Safer to just treat it as somewhat comparable or equal
Since Faux is an imitation of something it would be odd for it to be proclaimed as Faux 100% but for it to be way weaker
The reason it’s called that is because it can bring forth power and speed of a similar caliber

 

[Metalballrun]

Kinda sad Nagant’s probably dead now she was amazing while she lasted

But on other hands can we Calc the explosion Deku face tanked with Cook’s formula?
Deku didn’t get to react to or dodge the blast which means it traveled its distance in at least 0.08 seconds (baseline Superhuman timeframe)
Then inverse square law it for Deku’s Dura

You mean Nagant's explosion? It's kinda confusing since in the next shot it looked like he was significantly far away, though he probably only took a lot less of that explosion considering his surface area.

And thought so. NGL I was kinda both hoping and dreading that Fa Jin would be able to imitate 100% even before the leaks came out lol
Like if Deku can imitate 100% at 45% with Fa Jin, and seemingly not suffering as much damage than before...
Then unless Shigaraki comes back as a complete monster beyond Prime All Might, Prime Deku's gonna layeth the smackdown on his ass with a 150% Fa Jin Smash lmao

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Keep in mind AFO had strength enhancers and kinetic boosters yet 75% Shigaraki has AM tier strength with no quirks. Shigaraki also has Decay and Regen

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

You mean Nagant's explosion? It's kinda confusing since in the next shot it looked like he was significantly far away, though he probably only took a lot less of that explosion considering his surface area.

I just took it as the blast blowing him away
But it’s worthless anyway if Deku’s is at 45%
Although even though surface area is a factor Deku was still extremely close
So if that blast was like 7-C he’d still be 8-A or Low 7-C Dura give or take since the blast wasn’t really that big
Still it kinda doesn’t matter

 

[KingAllen30]

Is Fa Jin made his hand durable to handle 100%? I still don’t understand why Deku can handle pseudo 100% but still can’t handle true 100%.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Keep in mind AFO had strength enhancers and kinetic boosters yet 75% Shigaraki has AM tier strength with no quirks. Shigaraki also has Decay and Regen

Yeah Shiggy can also use those strength amps
Deku kinda needs Fajin to keep up with him

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Fa Jin is more so propulsion rather than movement (if that makes sense). Look at OFA as Muscle Augmentation and Fa Jin as Flashfire Fist.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Is Fa Jin made his hand durable to handle 100%? I still don’t understand why Deku can handle pseudo 100% but still can’t handle true 100%.

That's because 100% doesn't injure Izuku via recoil damage, we've already discussed this a long time ago.

That's why we have his dura scales to his AP at 100%.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Fa Jin is more so propulsion rather than movement (if that makes sense). Look at OFA as Muscle Augmentation and Fa Jin as Flashfire Fist.

This makes me wonder what on earth the second users quirk is going to be
Since OFA seemingly took Fa Jin which was probably way weaker (singularity theory) and made it dumb strong
And made random utility quirks also really good when used in unison

 

[Gitagon]

You mean Nagant's explosion? It's kinda confusing since in the next shot it looked like he was significantly far away, though he probably only took a lot less of that explosion considering his surface area.

And thought so. NGL I was kinda both hoping and dreading that Fa Jin would be able to imitate 100% even before the leaks came out lol
Like if Deku can imitate 100% at 45% with Fa Jin, and seemingly not suffering as much damage than before...
Then unless Shigaraki comes back as a complete monster beyond Prime All Might, Prime Deku's gonna layeth the smackdown on his ass with a 150% Fa Jin Smash lmao

Deku was holding Nagant's hands when she exploded so he got pushed away by the explosion though it didn't seem to hurt him.

Shigaraki won't be outclassed just cause Deku has Fa Jin now. His base body is already close to All Might tier even when quirkless.

And since he seems to have Kamino quirks, that means he still has a host of strength enhancers, kinetic boosters, multipliers and even Impact Recoil that basically reflects physical attacks. He never used all this stuff in the last battle but next time he will obviously use quirks and who knows what other quirks he may have added to the above.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

This makes me wonder what on earth the second users quirk is going to be
Since OFA seemingly took Fa Jin which was probably way weaker (singularity theory) and made it dumb strong
And made random utility quirks also really good when used in unison

My guess is beam with a caveat that OFA mitigates. Maybe it uses your endurance or something.

 

[KingAllen30]

That's because 100% doesn't injure Izuku via recoil damage, we've already discussed this a long time ago.

That's why we have his dura scales to his AP at 100%.

Then what made using 100% injuring him if not because of recoil?

 

[TheRustyOne]

The doctor said so himself, when he uses OFA it's like a bomb going off inside of his arm.

The damage isn't from recoil, it's from internal damage. The energy of OFA literally explodes inside of his arm when he attacks at 100%. It couldn't have been recoil that damaged him, since that's not how that works. Also Izuku would feel pain just by activating 20% Full Cowl, which clearly shows that it couldn't have been recoil.

Since he wasn't moving, but still felt pain.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Then what made using 100% injuring him if not because of recoil?

It was said to be internal damage. His doctor described it as fire crackers going off in his joints

 

[KingAllen30]

It was said to be internal damage. His doctor described it as fire crackers going off in his joints

Is it because OFA is not fully adapted to his body?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Is it because OFA is not fully adapted to his body?

Possibly.

 

[Gitagon]

Is Fa Jin made his hand durable to handle 100%? I still don’t understand why Deku can handle pseudo 100% but still can’t handle true 100%.

It's OFA itself that hurts Deku. The damage comes from within not outside. He is not getting hurt by external recoil, rather the OFA energy flowing in his body causes his bones to basically explode from the inside. In fact for all his injuries, the internal parts (bones, tendons) are far more hurt than external parts (skin, blood vessels).

Basically the damage from OFA comes from within, not from recoil.

 

[KingAllen30]

It's OFA itself that hurts Deku. The damage comes from within not outside. He is not getting hurt by external recoil, rather the OFA energy flowing in his body causes his bones to basically explode from the inside. In fact for all his injuries, the internal parts (bones, tendons) are far more hurt than external parts (skin, blood vessels).

Basically the damage from OFA comes from within, not from recoil.

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