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It would probably be like the Double Detroit Smash from Heroes Rising.Full Cowl 100% + Fa Jin is going to be sick
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It would probably be like the Double Detroit Smash from Heroes Rising.Full Cowl 100% + Fa Jin is going to be sick
Considering what type of character Bakugou is, this is impressive. Bakugou isn't known to be as heroic as Deku is, but for him to put everything on the line just to save a few of his teammates? That's ******* impressive. This goes far deeper than simple praise.Alright. Let's compile the list of praises Bakugo received during the fight.
I'm not even saying their teamwork was bad. It wasn't. I was good, just not nearly as as great as some people make it out to be as they defeated a disadvantaged opponents, which is honestly an entirely different complaint for me in a narrative standpoint.
- Kirishima praised him for "putting everything on the line for someone else." You know, the bare minimum for a hero, which is saving someone. They praised him because, as Monoma put it explicitly, Bakugo got "character development". When it comes to saving, Bakugo was so far down the standard of heroism that just saving Jiro made Kirishima so proud of him.
- Setsuna says Bakugo's team is flawless. Well, there isn't really much we can complain about this, because this is how Horikoshi chose to write it. It's just like the Cavalry Battle but Bakugo knew how to utilize his teammates best to support him. It is simple teamwork.
- And while this might lean more on a subjective take, one of the biggest reasons people didn't like this fight (me included) is that it's really just Bakugo's team. As in, Bakugo + Bakugo's goons. The only thing Jiro, Sato, and Sero did was to support Bakugo as he mows down 3/4 of their opponents.
This is just a step towards Bakugo's improvement as a team player.
He calculated the trajectory of bullets mid-air before they even hit him, and is capable of finding uses for new powers, even when he just gained them. He has an encyclopedic knowledge of heroes and their abilities too.Hey, so what's the cut off for being a genius in combat for the wiki. I feel that Deku has more than enough feats to warrant it at this point.
I know that due to anime onlies this wouldn’t happen so soonI'm more excited for the part about it being similar to DBFZ in all honesty. Though, the MHA leak community does make it sound like its a small chance in hell the rumor is actually real, but we can still hope regardless.
I'll be adding this to my list of E3 hopes now.
Well he’s definitely absolutely got the gifted rating in combatHey, so what's the cut off for being a genius in combat for the wiki. I feel that Deku has more than enough feats to warrant it at this point.
— Metalballrun never disputed this point, and I won't either. We acknowledge that this sort of thing is extraordinary for him. Your point here is moot.Considering what type of character Bakugou is, this is impressive. Bakugou isn't known to be as heroic as Deku is, but for him to put everything on the line just to save a few of his teammates? That's ******* impressive. This goes far deeper than simple praise.
Setsuna said Bakugou's team is flawless because it is. There was little error in his team's formation, and absolutely zero opportunity for Setsuna's team to actually win. Bakugou's teammates provided Bakugou with complete support. This succeeds well enough to the point they had zero casualties. Essentially, they were perfectly in sync.
If Setsuna's wrong, why don't you prove why his team's formation isn't flawless? Despite the many W's, they gained within the match.
Even if Bakugou was praised far to much for his match, this is still a significant point in his character arc. Bakugou being heavily praised for something like this wouldn't drag that down. People nitpick this fight far to much to the point it's insulting to the character and the story.
Point is, there is no valid excuse for why people make these arguments. It just seems like your pulling them out of your ass to try and downplay what Bakugou did in his match. No offense? But I don't see how any of this makes you right.
— I share your sentiments here as well.Metalballrun said:
And while this might lean more on a subjective take, one of the biggest reasons people didn't like this fight (me included) is that it's really just Bakugo's team. As in, Bakugo + Bakugo's goons. The only thing Jiro, Sato, and Sero did was to support Bakugo as he mows down 3/4 of their opponents.
Gifted seems to fit more. Deku doesn't seem to have superhuman intelligence, just that he's extremely knowledgeable and skilled when it comes to quirks which I guess counts as a specific field.Well he’s definitely absolutely got the gifted rating in combat
But I think geniuses (Since this is combat I won’t compare him to someone like Erwin Schrödinger or Einstein for obvious reasons)
But he was capable of predicting the trajectory of and dodging Nagant’s CURVING shots from a closer range despite them having a speed advantage
Is a walking Encyclopedia when it comes to quirks and heroes
Which plays into his battle strategies he makes on the fly while under pressure with quirks he barely has experience with.
At minimum he’s Gifted in Combat, but Intelligence is hard to access sometimes so I’m not sure if it warrants Genius
Edit
Gifted states this:
“Character that demonstrate high reasoning ability, can master concepts with few repetitions, and display high performance capability in intellectual, creative, or specific academic fields.”
Extremely accurate for Deku
Genius is more like:
“Individuals with an exceptional capacity for knowledge and intelligence, generally in one area of varying depth, often possessed by fictional scientists and strategists. This level of intelligence is the level of actual geniuses and famous intellectuals in the real world and, in lieu of better feats, should be the default intelligence category for fictional characters treated as if they have exceptional or superhuman intelligence.”
So which one better fits you guys can decide I guess
He's a genius, full-stop.. . .
Then good, because that means that his classmates have valid reasons to praise him. This development is impressive for someone like him and that's why they're praising him. You've basically just conceded to my point here.— Metalballrun never disputed this point, and I won't either. We acknowledge that this sort of thing is extraordinary for him. Your point here is moot.
— Exactly. Because all of that was how Horikoshi intended to write it. He wrote Setsuna's team to be utter crap while Bakugo's own squad would win out via utilizing basic teamwork. There's not much leeway to dispute what literally just happened. If you want to call Bakugo's victory a sign of his development, go ahead. I agree with you on this point. But do not act like his teamwork was phenomenal and anything more than him utilizing simple teamwork. He wasn't.
This is funny for three reasons.— If you say so, but your points really do not invalidate our arguments, like, at all. People were disappointed in the fight because Team 1-B was too crap for the fight to have actually payed off. If Setsuna and co. were more strategic and flexible against Team 1-A and actually were neck-and-neck with them in some way, Bakugo's development would have payed off even more since he would have been pushed into utilizing his own smarts much more than when he did.
No, I'm only saying that the logic behind your opinions makes no sense. In fact, you've literally just said to me several times that my arguments do not debunk your's, and have applied that you think you're right. It is perfectly within my right to disagree and explain why you're wrong. I'm not dissing on your opinion, this is just how discussions/debates work.— At your last point I'm going to have to tell you straight up to calm yourself, please. You are essentially saying that our opinions are worth dirt.
Intelligence is just a really hard thing to measure.What about Nagant's intelligence? She was able to fired a curving bullet around a building, before Izuku was moving, and it was a direct hit. Her bullets aren't something she can control remotely, so her ability to not only predict where Izuku was going to be ahead of time, but as well as calculating the curve her bullet would need to wrap around the building is very impressive.
I'm fine with either Gifted or Genius for Izuku, though I'm not sure how we'd actually rate this stuff.
General Intelligence is kinda hard to measure, but not too bad. It's measuring intellect in combat specifically that's super annoying.Intelligence is just a really hard thing to measure.
That's how I feel too TBH.How's about Genius in combat only, like a lot of other profiles? So he'd be Gifted, Genius in combat, since that seems to be where he gets his crazy feats that so far no one has been able to deal with.
nah, you're right, he got far smarter the more experience he gained.I feel like his intelligence should be split into keys tbh. I don't recall Midoriya ever performing feats on the sheer level that he just did before the current arc (please correct me if I'm wrong).
I can agree with that.I suppose that is true, but I feel like that's a tad bit under the level of evading psudeo-danmaku swarms of bullets coming from several different angles and directions from a woman who possesses superhuman shooting capabilities and accuracy via pure skill alone who also has insanely high predictive abilities herself.
Maybe just gifted in combat for every other key?
Monoma doesn't have it in the manga. The manga only has the gradient skin effect Deku gets with Full Cowl which the anime has never replicated (part from I think 100% Deku vs Overhaul).In the latest episode that just dropped, Deku and Uraraka were able to tell Monoma had OFA just from the green lightning emanating from him. This confirms that the green lightning is visible! Doesn’t it? For all the people who said it’s just for the readers and isn’t actually visible.
He also flat out confirms he can't copy OFA as it's a Stockpile type quirk.In the latest episode that just dropped, Deku and Uraraka were able to tell Monoma had OFA just from the green lightning emanating from him. This confirms that the green lightning is visible! Doesn’t it? For all the people who said it’s just for the readers and isn’t actually visible.
Ah my bad then, must have misremembered how his quirk works.No, technically he did copy OFA.
He just didn't get the power that was stored inside of it, he got an empty Quirk. That is why he calls them blanks, using Fat Gum as an example. Fat Gum can store energy into his fat, but Monoma isn't fat, so copying Fat Gum's Quirk wouldn't protect him like it does Fat Gum.
It’s a shame anime often do toning down like that unless if it’s plot relevant thing (Fatal Injury)They pretty much completely removed all the blood from Deku getting Twin Impacted in the face and only added a few barely visible speckles in the air. I hate it.
I already agree with such the amp is consistentI have to bring this up again, but since Twin Impact is stated to increase the power of the second blow by several times.
Wouldn't that mean Monoma's AP would be several times weaker, and several is at least 3X, to at most 11X? Which means At least 8-C, possibly High 8-C Monoma? Since his attack multiplied by several times was able to injure 8% Izuku enough to draw blood.