My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[AtomicSekiro]

I saw someone on Twitter say, paraphrasing: “Hawks is evil. He killed a mentally ill individual and defends abuse. If I was Hawks, I would’ve let Twice walk away or get a hero to tranq him or something.”

Person had a Kirishima profile picture. Never let fans influence your writing, broskis.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Let me spit some cold and hard facts to all of you; the story doesn't really care whether Nagant was a well-written character, or whether or not she was powerful. The story wants to build tension and stakes, and it has rightfully done so.

You wanna argue that the way she died was anti-climatic? Fine, I'm not stopping you. But this would also be ignoring the very cause behind her death, and honestly? That cause is extremely twisted and ****** up when you think about it. So there shouldn't be any excuses going around saying that "this was an extremely disappointing way for her to die." Correction; this was a very ****** up way to die. End of story.

Could this have been done better? Probably, but when you look back in retrospect on a lot of manga's and their chapters, many things could have been done better. This is a pointless argument to make. Her debut, as short as it was, was beautifully done on Horikoshi's part, and now it's possibly being wrapped up to further the development of the cast.

This is wrong. Everyone's not praising Bakugou because he did the bare minimum of teamwork, they're praising Bakugou because he gave fluid instructions to his teammates and perfectly countered Setsuna's team flawlessly. That's more than just simple teamwork. For someone of Bakugou's caliber? It's unexpected for him to work this well in a team-focused environment, which could also be a reason he's being praised.

Sadly this would not change my mind at all

 

[ÆONS]

Let me spit some cold and hard facts to all of you; the story doesn't really care whether Nagant was a well-written character, or whether or not she was powerful. The story wants to build tension and stakes, and it has rightfully done so.

You wanna argue that the way she died was anti-climatic? Fine, I'm not stopping you. But this would also be ignoring the very cause behind her death, and honestly? That cause is extremely twisted and ****** up when you think about it. So there shouldn't be any excuses going around saying that "this was an extremely disappointing way for her to die." Correction; this was a very ****** up way to die. End of story.

Could this have been done better? Probably, but when you look back in retrospect on a lot of manga's and their chapters, many things could have been done better. This is a pointless argument to make. Her debut, as short as it was, was beautifully done on Horikoshi's part, and now it's possibly being wrapped up to further the development of the cast.

. . .

Alright, I'm gonna take a walk through your points.

— The story did actually care about whether she was powerful or not. The text of the story clearly built her up to be a formidable opponent due to the testimonies of both Hawks and Sniper essentially saying that she is cut above the vast majority of people who were involved with Hero Society as a whole. You also saw just how neck-and-neck she was with Midoriya who at that point was getting exponentially stronger with OFA. Same can be (likely) said about the story caring about her being a well-written character. In order to build up tension and stakes it would need to establish a well-written, powerful, character in the first place especially at this point in the manga. If it failed in doing so it just would not work, for extremely obvious reasons. So no, I cannot possibly agree with you on this one. The evidence was laid out for all to see.

— Nobody (to my knowledge) disputed that her death was ****** up and twisted beyond reason or ignored the cause of her death. This point is pretty moot.

— It definitely could have been done better, that is the case I and others were making. That said, I am not going to dispute the other errors Horikoshi made in his writing. I am focusing primarily on what I believe to be a major flaw on his work. That being killing off Nagant far too early. I have little doubt that Horikoshi salvage whatever he did here and come up with something good, but frankly, he threw a very good opportunity down the trash bin ands now has to work his mistake.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Spoiler

We don’t even know if she’s dead. There’s a guy who can heal her to perfect health with just a slight quirk awakening which isn’t impossible as Toga showed. Wait until next chapter. Hawks caught her for a reason.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I realized something about all of these debate: Risotto Nero is Lady Nagant but done much much better

 

[Earthyboy]

Alright, I'm gonna take a walk through your points.

— The story did actually care about whether she was powerful or not. The text of the story clearly built her up to be a formidable opponent due to the testimonies of both Hawks and Sniper essentially saying that she is cut above the vast majority of people who were involved with Hero Society as a whole. You also saw just how neck-and-neck she was with Midoriya who at that point was getting exponentially stronger with OFA. Same can be (likely) said about the story caring about her being a well-written character. In order to build up tension and stakes it would need to establish a well-written, powerful, character in the first place especially at this point in the manga. If it failed in doing so it just would not work, for extremely obvious reasons. So no, I cannot possibly agree with you on this one. The evidence was laid out for all to see.

— Nobody (to my knowledge) disputed that her death was ****** up and twisted beyond reason or ignored the cause of her death. This point is pretty moot.

— It definitely could have been done better, that is the case I and others were making. That said, I am not going to dispute the other errors Horikoshi made in his writing. I am focusing primarily on what I believe to be a major flaw on his work. That being killing off Nagant far too early. I have little doubt that Horikoshi salvage whatever he did here and come up with something good, but frankly, he threw a very good opportunity down the trash bin ands now has to work his mistake.

Why does the story showcasing how strong and formidable Nagnant was matter exactly? For the most part, it disregarded all of that to create a very twisted ****** up death, or at least that's what we see in the chapter. This doesn't refute my point, this is mostly just you establishing how well written her character was.

And you're missing the big picture. Deku's goal is to understand and save his enemies, despite them being villains. All for One basically just told Deku to "**** off" with that and killed her. I will repeat this for you once again, that is amazing story-telling, from a villainous perspective at least. This can take the story in so many different directions. i.e, the aftermath of Nagnant's death would be most likely be extremely well written.

This is stakes and tension, because how is Deku supposed to accomplish one of his goals when one of his greatest adversaries is making it impossible for him? There is no simple solution to that like getting stronger. Once again, wonderful story-telling.

There is literally nothing to your argument other than you personally disliking the idea of the story killing off a powerful character to further advance the quality of the story and its characters. What would further developing Nagnant do besides delay the inevitable? We've seen what motivates her, and why she disliked Deku's philosophy. Her character arc was pretty much complete already.

Sadly this would not change my mind at all

I'm only pointing out the flaws in your logic. You don't have to agree with my stances or even have a change of heart.

 

[Gitagon]

This^ probably the reason why everyone and their mother on reddit or twitter thinks every side character deserves more screen time and lots of development.

Remember how Horikoshi flexed on the PLF team members. They were given such cool designs and in the end they were just fodder.

I think apart from the lightning guy Kaminari and Edgeshot defeated, the others didn't get to say anything.

I think the only one that might get focused on later is the guy who killed Midnight when he finally gets arrested or something.

 

[Gitagon]

I heavily disagree with the statements and outlooks on how Horikoshi deals with death, but you guys are entitled to your opinions.

In other news, I am praying and hoping that MHA fighting game is real. Like, that would be FIRE with all the characters like Miruko, Endeavor, Hawks, awakened Shigaraki, Deku with his quirks, Re-Destro, Geten, maybe even Machia. Tons of potential in a fighting game like this.

Yeah, so far the only really important character killed off is Twice and I'd argue he had one of the best deaths in the series. Even Gran Torino didn't die. Everyone else who died was in the same arc they were introduced or side characters like Midnight.

Spoiler: Nagant

As for Nagant, I wouldn't close the door on her yet. I don't think she's dead at least not yet. Next week we either get a farewell with Hawks or we get an Overhaul reveal. And as long as he could use his quirk, he could get her back into top health easily.

 

[Gitagon]

Spoiler

We don’t even know if she’s dead. There’s a guy who can heal her to perfect health with just a slight quirk awakening which isn’t impossible as Toga showed. Wait until next chapter. Hawks caught her for a reason.

Yep, lol. People just making assumptions. I honestly wouldn't hold any hope with Overhaul if not for that databook that said his quirk had been remodelled in jail. That at least shows the government in MHA knows of the importance of Overhaul's quirk and planned to use him somehow.

His quirk is too good for him not to be doing anything. Even if the government were to be filled with corrupt politicians, a lot would still want Overhaul in top shape to cure them if they ever have any illnesses considering he can cure even conditions one got as a child.

 

[Metalballrun]

This is wrong. Everyone's not praising Bakugou because he did the bare minimum of teamwork, they're praising Bakugou because he gave fluid instructions to his teammates and perfectly countered Setsuna's team flawlessly. That's more than just simple teamwork.

Alright. Let's compile the list of praises Bakugo received during the fight.

1. Kirishima praised him for "putting everything on the line for someone else." You know, the bare minimum for a hero, which is saving someone. They praised him because, as Monoma put it explicitly, Bakugo got "character development". When it comes to saving, Bakugo was so far down the standard of heroism that just saving Jiro made Kirishima so proud of him.
2. Setsuna says Bakugo's team is flawless. Well, there isn't really much we can complain about this, because this is how Horikoshi chose to write it. It's just like the Cavalry Battle but Bakugo knew how to utilize his teammates best to support him. It is simple teamwork.
   1. And while this might lean more on a subjective take, one of the biggest reasons people didn't like this fight (me included) is that it's really just Bakugo's team. As in, Bakugo + Bakugo's goons. The only thing Jiro, Sato, and Sero did was to support Bakugo as he mows down 3/4 of their opponents.

I'm not even saying their teamwork was bad. It wasn't. I was good, just not nearly as as great as some people make it out to be as they defeated a disadvantaged opponents, which is honestly an entirely different complaint for me in a narrative standpoint.
This is just a step towards Bakugo's improvement as a team player.

For someone of Bakugou's caliber? It's unexpected for him to work this well in a team-focused environment, which could also be a reason he's being praised.

Exactly. It's unexpected of him, which is why he's being praised. It's expected for everyone else though.

Yeah, so far the only really important character killed off is Twice and I'd argue he had one of the best deaths in the series. Even Gran Torino didn't die

Twice had the best death period. No other character deaths can compare to how masterfully Twice's death has been written by Horikoshi. Every other death pales in comparison.
And Torino should've died, though I don't mind if he still lived, but I'm not sure what further he can contribute to the story.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Spoiler

Overhaul definitely can use his quirk again, in some way or another. He’s been going on about his boss for god knows how long now so he probably thinks he can heal him. But then again, that makes me wonder why he hasn’t reformed himself to give himself hands. But I guess that can be explained away by the fact he can’t create new matter; he’d have to sacrifice his own mass from another part of his body to reform his hands. He’ll probably reveal this next chapter by healing Nagant and proving he can care for other people besides himself and the boss.

 

[Metalballrun]

Spoiler

Overhaul definitely can use his quirk again, in some way or another. He’s been going on about his boss for god knows how long now so he probably thinks he can heal him. But then again, that makes me wonder why he hasn’t reformed himself to give himself hands. But I guess that can be explained away by the fact he can’t create new matter; he’d have to sacrifice his own mass from another part of his body to reform his hands. He’ll probably reveal this next chapter by healing Nagant and proving he can care for other people besides himself and the boss.

Wasn't there some interview or guidebook that hints at this?
He can probably use his feet for it. As for his arms, nothing he can do about it, he can only maybe steal other people's arms or maybe even make fake stone arms.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

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I’m a little confused on how speed works. If Deku outsped the bullet, how is it that the bullet has gone way past Overhaul while Deku is beside Overhaul and pushing him out of the way? Did the bullet really miss and the push happened after it?? He’s still going super, super fast regardless.

 

[Gitagon]

Spoiler

Overhaul definitely can use his quirk again, in some way or another. He’s been going on about his boss for god knows how long now so he probably thinks he can heal him. But then again, that makes me wonder why he hasn’t reformed himself to give himself hands. But I guess that can be explained away by the fact he can’t create new matter; he’d have to sacrifice his own mass from another part of his body to reform his hands. He’ll probably reveal this next chapter by healing Nagant and proving he can care for other people besides himself and the boss.

I think even if he can still use his quirk after the "remodelling", his quirk will be nerfed compared to how it was originally. So maybe he can do simple healing but not regenerate entire limbs.

 

[Gitagon]

Spoiler

I’m a little confused on how speed works. If Deku outsped the bullet, how is it that the bullet has gone way past Overhaul while Deku is beside Overhaul and pushing him out of the way? Did the bullet really miss and the push happened after it?? He’s still going super, super fast regardless.

Spoiler: Bullet Speed

He outsped it since he covered way more distance than the bullet did while coming from further away.

When Nagant points and shoots at Chisaki, Deku uses a combination of Fa Jin and Black Whip to change directions.

The bullet is shown already a few inches from Chisaki's head while Deku is nowhere near the scene.

But at the time the bullet passes by Chisaki's head, Deku has already pushed him out of the way.

Obviously for the bullet to miss, Deku must have pushed Chisaki out of the bullets 's trajectory first so he did outspeed it and get to Chisaki first from a much longer distance.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Spoiler

But Deku said Nagant’s trajectory was off when she shot at Chisaki, implying the bullet was never going to hit anyway so Deku’s push wasn’t really needed. I also realise Nagant shot twice. Once at Overhaul, a second time as Deku begins swinging. The second bullet nicks his shoulder.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

That's true, but they could've had her in a hidden unit. Hawks doesn't get fed everything although he does spy on the majority of them so he might've found out anyway.
Point is, mass media control is one of the weapons of MLA and that was Curious's forte and she was gone. I feel like she could've worked well with Dabi more than the convenience that Skeptic did. And we know that Skeptic only survived and escaped purely as a convenient device for Dabi to do his thing, because Horikoshi forgot about him right after his thing with Dabi and had to redraw him lmao

As for Nagant, what happened to her is narratively to be expected. It's not surprising at all. But the way she went out just sucks (even if the cause of her death specifically was flashy enough to be cool), on top of her being more interesting than not just villains but literally most character in the series. If she actually does die, it'll only be justified if this actually affects Deku's and Hawks's characters but it's going to suck if all of their attention will just be directed at AFO.

They don’t have hidden units and there’s no reason to even have her in one cause only their people know their formations.

Skeptic works far better with Dabi. Curious at best could publish his story but considering when Dabi actually revealed himself only Skeptic could’ve helped him with that. Even then mass media control isn’t THAT amazing when you’re going against a group that has a primarily positive reception from the masses and are willing to make public statements.

Spoiler

Does her death suck in the sense that it makes you feel bad or that you think it’s bad writing? I found there’s nothing really wrong with her death. If the issue is just you found her more interesting than most of the cast and she’s dead that’s not really any problem with the writing. On top of that her death fits her character very well.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Spoiler

Natant fired twice. She was able to turn her bullet in Deku’s direction before her first shot really went anywhere and aimed at Deku and fired again. She then reacted to “pseudo 100%” Deku and turned her head to follow his path as he was going max speed. Nagant’s speed is insane.

 

[Metalballrun]

They don’t have hidden units and there’s no reason to even have her in one cause only their people know their formations.

Skeptic works far better with Dabi. Curious at best could publish his story but considering when Dabi actually revealed himself only Skeptic could’ve helped him with that. Even then mass media control isn’t THAT amazing when you’re going against a group that has a primarily positive reception from the masses and are willing to make public statements.

Spoiler

Does her death suck in the sense that it makes you feel bad or that you think it’s bad writing? I found there’s nothing really wrong with her death. If the issue is just you found her more interesting than most of the cast and she’s dead that’s not really any problem with the writing. On top of that her death fits her character very well.

What you said is true, but what I'm talking about is entirely different.

To make it short, Dabi's Dance happened entirely by chance, where he had Skeptic conveniently there for him to edit the videos and hack through national satellites to project what he wanted on national TV. While it's unconfirmed whether or not Skeptic knew about Dabi beforehand (most likely not), either way it relied on pure chance. Dabi wouldn't have been able to achieve his goal if Skeptic got captured during the Villa Raid.

I'm not really sure what exactly is your point about mass media "isn't that amazing". The current situation would've been perfect for mass media to manipulate the masses even further against heroes, especially as we see now that there isn't even any malicious media actually at works but the society is still ******.

Nagant's death in of itself isn't necessarily bad writing. But if you believe, that killing of characters more interesting that most of the ones still alive isn't bad writing, then I really don't know about that.
That doesn't make Nagant's situation badly written (on the contrary, Nagant is very well written, which is the point), but it speaks for the quality of writing for everyone else who isn't as interesting as Nagant but are still in the story.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

What you said is true, but what I'm talking about is entirely different.

To make it short, Dabi's Dance happened entirely by chance, where he had Skeptic conveniently there for him to edit the videos and hack through national satellites to project what he wanted on national TV. While it's unconfirmed whether or not Skeptic knew about Dabi beforehand (most likely not), either way it relied on pure chance. Dabi wouldn't have been able to achieve his goal if Skeptic got captured during the Villa Raid.

I'm not really sure what exactly is your point about mass media "isn't that amazing". The current situation would've been perfect for mass media to manipulate the masses even further against heroes, especially as we see now that there isn't even any malicious media actually at works but the society is still ******.

Nagant's death in of itself isn't necessarily bad writing. But if you believe, that killing of characters more interesting that most of the ones still alive isn't bad writing, then I really don't know about that.
That doesn't make Nagant's situation badly written (on the contrary, Nagant is very well written, which is the point), but it speaks for the quality of writing for everyone else who isn't as interesting as Nagant but are still in the story.

Yeah it was by chance but only Skeptic could’ve done it. Even if Curious survived and wasn’t captured with the turn of events she’d have been useless. She couldn’t manipulate info at this stage where it would’ve been more useful because she’d be an outed criminal either on the run or in jail already.

Spoiler

Nagant genuinely isn’t that interesting to me (I mean she’s better than like most of 1A to me but she’s not as good as say, Dabi, Hawks etc) She’s very enjoyable and is well written but there isn’t much I see her doing. Her whole character is to affect Deku’s viewpoint and now seemingly his character progression. Most of the characters who are alive either wouldn’t add much if they died (like the many side characters) or they still have plot stuff to do like Endeavor for example. Some characters even have no reason to be dead like most of the heroes in the rescue effort or students at the Villa

 

[Metalballrun]

Yeah it was by chance but only Skeptic could’ve done it. Even if Curious survived and wasn’t captured with the turn of events she’d have been useless. She couldn’t manipulate info at this stage where it would’ve been more useful because she’d be an outed criminal either on the run or in jail already.

Spoiler

Nagant genuinely isn’t that interesting to me (I mean she’s better than like most of 1A to me but she’s not as good as say, Dabi, Hawks etc) She’s very enjoyable and is well written but there isn’t much I see her doing. Her whole character is to affect Deku’s viewpoint and now seemingly his character progression. Most of the characters who are alive either wouldn’t add much if they died (like the many side characters) or they still have plot stuff to do like Endeavor for example. Some characters even have no reason to be dead like most of the heroes in the rescue effort or students at the Villa

Curious couldn't have done what Skeptic did specifically but her mass media could've done the same if she planned it with Dabi beforehand.
Hawks was able to garner a lot of information but he couldn't find out anything about Dabi and his activities. I simply believe she could've been written within the arc feasibly especially since they don't really trust Hawks that much in the first place.

As for Nagant, that's true but it doesn't really refute or contradict any of what I said. In addition, I feel like this is just another female character that was used and discarded so quickly, and that still bugs me despite Nagant's entire situation being fairly well-written. We can't really talk much about any female character that had as much presence as Nagant did in both plot, character and battle. You can almost count them with one hand.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Curious couldn't have done what Skeptic did specifically but her mass media could've done the same if she planned it with Dabi beforehand.
Hawks was able to garner a lot of information but he couldn't find out anything about Dabi and his activities. I simply believe she could've been written within the arc feasibly especially since they don't really trust Hawks that much in the first place.

As for Nagant, that's true but it doesn't really refute or contradict any of what I said. In addition, I feel like this is just another female character that was used and discarded so quickly, and that still bugs me despite Nagant's entire situation being fairly well-written. We can't really talk much about any female character that had as much presence as Nagant did in both plot, character and battle. You can almost count them with one hand.

She really couldn’t have. Let’s say Dabi planned it with her. One of two things happens she sits on the story then gets arrested or she passed it on to her news people before hand and tells them not to release it. Then they just sit on it till Dabi uses Skeptic to already get it out there.

Spoiler

So it is a problem of you expecting more from her? Nagant was never a main character even if she didn’t die (which we aren’t even sure if she’s 100% dead) she likely wouldn’t have done much because she’s just a side character introduced for this arc

 

[Gitagon]

Spoiler

But Deku said Nagant’s trajectory was off when she shot at Chisaki, implying the bullet was never going to hit anyway so Deku’s push wasn’t really needed. I also realise Nagant shot twice. Once at Overhaul, a second time as Deku begins swinging. The second bullet nicks his shoulder.

Spoiler: Bullet Speed

Yeah but whether the bullet hit or not is irrelevant since we do see the bullet close to Overhaul's head and Deku is nowhere near it and then when he pushes Overhaul as it passes by his head, the bullet appears a bit infront of Deku but it's still neck to neck with him.

Even if Deku somehow failed to reach Overhaul first, he still had to cover a much bigger distance just to catch up with the bullet as he wasn't even near Overhaul when the bullet was fired.

 

[Gitagon]

Curious couldn't have done what Skeptic did specifically but her mass media could've done the same if she planned it with Dabi beforehand.
Hawks was able to garner a lot of information but he couldn't find out anything about Dabi and his activities. I simply believe she could've been written within the arc feasibly especially since they don't really trust Hawks that much in the first place.

As for Nagant, that's true but it doesn't really refute or contradict any of what I said. In addition, I feel like this is just another female character that was used and discarded so quickly, and that still bugs me despite Nagant's entire situation being fairly well-written. We can't really talk much about any female character that had as much presence as Nagant did in both plot, character and battle. You can almost count them with one hand.

Yeah she's really tied to the central themes of the story but I don't think she's

Spoiler: Spoiler

dead yet and I think if she was it would be more conclusive. I just think people are jumping the ship on this like with Gran Torino. With Curious we saw her splattered but with Nagant, she's bloody but her body wasn't even decimated by the explosion which I think would have been a far more conclusive death is Hori was planning to kill her off.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Spoiler: Bullet Speed

Whether Deku actually would’ve managed to push Chisaki out if the way in time or not, though the story implies he actually did even if the paneling seems a bit off, he still would be way faster than the bullet since he covered several times the distance it had to cover to get that far past Chisaki. So he’s still much faster,

 

[Zezu1995]

seems like an upgrade but ill leave that to the calc people

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Spoiler

So, what is “pseudo 100%” and how does it compare to actual 100% and how does it not cause self damage?

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Spoiler

So, what is “pseudo 100%” and how does it compare to actual 100% and how does it not cause self damage?

Spoiler

It either lets him use 100% level strength for a few brief moments or is just reminiscent of that strength. It’s essentially 45% + Fa Jin boost making him mini All Might. There’s no self damage because OFA is the cause of the damage, not the strength or speed of 100%. So if he’s boosting himself there from accumulated Kinetic Energy and not solely OFA’s stockpile, he’s good to go for as long as the KE is there.

Think of it like a car having built in turbos that damage it’s engine, but then strapping a rocket to it to make it go just as fast so you don’t have to use the turbo, but the rocket doesn’t have a lot of fuel.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Young All Might at the beginning of two heroes is probably how strong Nana Shimura was, give or take a few years for OFA to stockpile.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Saw this. Thoughts? One of the replies to it was a bit off to me.

 

[Spinoirr]

Deku actually was able to not only unhinged shigarakis jaw but also was trying to twist off his head. Damn

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Explains why his mouth is so floppy when he runs at Aizawa.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

*Someone gets regeneration in MHA

Horikoshi: "Ok let's mutilate them"

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Sad Magne noises

 

[Gitagon]

Regen is always used as chance for max injury and gore in most fiction. If a character has regen then they gotta show it off and the best way to do so is to take maximum injury.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

It should be noted on Deku’s profile that he is “higher” with Fa Jin on his AP sections yes? Since speed is gonna take a while to definitively calc.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Spoiler

Best to wait until the official chapter comes out before changing anything, since there are some questions still. Since it's possible he is 7-B with Fa Jin if it actually is comparable to 100%. Pseudo 100% sounds like he's as fast/strong as 100% but he's still using 45%. I'd like to see how that translates into the officials, but it seems like he believes it's comparable to 100%. I'm thinking it might be up to 7-B with Fa Jin, but let's wait first

 

[Kingofwolves999]

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I say “higher” because he can use Fa Jin in 30% as well which wouldn’t be the same as Psuedo-100%, so I wouldn’t really know how to structure it on his profile. Because beyond just the 45%+Fa Jin, it’s a general, very high stat amp, and that seems to be represented as just “higher” for most of the wiki.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Full Cowl 100% + Fa Jin is going to be sick

 

[Gitagon]

It should be noted on Deku’s profile that he is “higher” with Fa Jin on his AP sections yes? Since speed is gonna take a while to definitively calc.

Yeah, Fa Jin is a huge boost. It should put him in a completely different tier.