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Where? I'm getting average depth of 3682 meters(total world ocean average, i think) and pacific ocean's average is 4000m(where the fight actually takes place)
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My Hero Academia: America Brings Upgrades/Revisions
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Mapl3Sy4up
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Ah ok, I only suggested the Cube as people have only been using Mild Steel which does make up the components, but the common building materials Wolfram most likely used can contain anywhere from 2%-18% tungsten (won't do much but it is still important for the numbers)
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I could be wrong, but I remember seeing a source that said this. Don't take my word for it though, I could've just been tired and remembered it incorrectly.
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and according to https://contractorquotes.us:"Tungsten is one of those metals that are used in a wide variety of fields. In fact, it is common to find it being used in electrical, chemical, manufacturing, military, and construction industries"
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construction being the main thing here
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According to https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/facts/pacific-size.html the pacific ocean has an average depth of 4000
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I think it's safe to say Star is at least 7ft looking at her height in comparison to Shigaraki. She almost looks comparable to how AFO looks next to Shigaraki.
There is no way Star is 6ft. Shigaraki is 5'7 to 5'9, I don't know his exact height but look at his comparison with Star. She looks half a meter taller than him. 6 ft is guys like Iida.
I think it's safe to say Star is at least 7ft looking at her height in comparison to Shigaraki. She almost looks comparable to how AFO looks next to Shigaraki.
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Using 7 FT height gets me 48.03 MT for the explosion.
Which is 4.8 MT for a single missile.
Which is 4.8 MT for a single missile.
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Are you using the 3.7km average depth? I'm not too good with calc lol
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I believe the 3.7km was used in the original calc done by Therefir
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I'm not measuring the crater, just the explosion size.
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https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/facts/pacific-size.html Found a source for the average depth of the ocean in the pacific ocean, so I do think that Therefir is accurate, though a low-ball as the average depth is 4k
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do you have any other High 7-A feats for supporting this? (Just incase Star's changes)
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The explosion and cloud split have nothing to do with each other, we also aren't doing cloud feats at the moment. I'll say this again here.
"Because clouds feats might be under review as a whole. Cloud density is seemingly becoming a problem due to how that varies at certain heights. Along with air displacement, and something about longitudinal wave and how vacuums aren't formed when an explosion goes off. But our calcs assume all air is moved, which would create a vacuum but they usually don't.
I'm not certain if this is right, but I've been hearing a lot of stuff and it's too confusing for me. So it's best to not even try and calc the KE of the storm being blown away until that is sorted out."
"Because clouds feats might be under review as a whole. Cloud density is seemingly becoming a problem due to how that varies at certain heights. Along with air displacement, and something about longitudinal wave and how vacuums aren't formed when an explosion goes off. But our calcs assume all air is moved, which would create a vacuum but they usually don't.
I'm not certain if this is right, but I've been hearing a lot of stuff and it's too confusing for me. So it's best to not even try and calc the KE of the storm being blown away until that is sorted out."
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That's fair, do we have anything that can be calc'd near or as High 7-A for supporting this?
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Earthy said he knew something, so wait for him I guess.
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Alright, also may I ask if someone can find a definitive answer for Wolfram's cube, as it has been calc'd so many times
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Currently is High 7-C using KE, via the shown size of the tower.
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Ah ok, I always thought using Wolfram's height and the platform would have been better, as we can actual see it in the shot (I've seen it done on other sites with the consensus being that using that method ranges from 7-A to High 7-A)
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We have an official height for the tower, which can be used to find the platform size. Anything else would be incorrect, however their could be another way to find the cube size. Actually Therefir's original calc, which was the first calc would still be correct. That is Low 7-B+, though it could be higher.
Since that doesn't use the tower size at all.
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Why would everything else be incorrect? If you used any other method to pixel scale the cube, you'd get vastly different results than this. This sounds like bullshit.
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What about Gigantomachia destroying a portion of a mountain?
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From what I understand the only supporting feat we have is Deku's shockwave(not the clouds) from heroes rising, Star's calc is the only manga feat that is this high.
I'm not exactly for trying to FIND feats for High 7-A that say we're trying to calc with a certain idea in mind, not an accurate representation of the story.
If this feat with star gets debunked to lower than 7-A I would be solidly against any upgrades over it, I really don't think there should be any higher feat in the series than this nuke(up to this point) as that's what the general community(outside of VS battles) seems to have agreed upon.
If this feat gets downgraded then it sucks, but it happens. I really think we need to wait to hear from @Therefir to see where this feat lands before trying to discuss scaling from here.
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Off-screen feat, and not likely accomplished in a single attack.
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we don't have a timeframe for that, or if it was a singular attack or not
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Not everything else, that isn't what I meant. Apologies, just that using the tower is incorrect no matter what.
We have an official size given, so that takes power over any other "version" of using the tower. If you find a way to measure the cube without the tower, it should be fine.
However I believe the cube size shouldn't be less than 146 meters.
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Ah I see, well that sucks. But what could be the result if we assumed it was in a single attack? Just curious.
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It was calc at Low 7-B.
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What ever happened to All Might's first Detroit smash (against sludge villain), should the KE version be used with a different time frame instead of 6 seconds?
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But if you use pixel scaling to evaluate the cube's size, the tower's official height becomes inconsistent with every other method. Mathematically speaking, there's no way for Wolfram's tower to be that small. The same can be said for the cube. So the method of using the tower's official and confirmed height to pixel scale the cube is technically an outlier.
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KE is inaccurate, All Might didn't pull in clouds.
We don't use KE since it is stated that he made the clouds by forming a updraft. He didn't make a vacuum that pulled in a nearby storm.
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Officials are always taken over inaccurate pixel scaling, as the people who draw this stuff aren't making it to be consistent.
Also I have no recollection of the Cube size being compared to the Tower. Also Wolfram's tower changes in sizes a lot as well, there is no consistency whatsoever.
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ah ok
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So if we can calc it without using the tower it would change?
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Given that you liked it I'm gonna go try and find one (I don't have any pixel scaling tools that won't take 4 hours with my terrible computer)
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Also when I say Tower, I'm not talking about Wolfram's thing, but the actual tower and platform itself.
Woflram's thing can be whatever size you measure it as.
Woflram's thing can be whatever size you measure it as.
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Inaccurate pixel scaling? Do you kid yourself? Literally using any other object to pixel scale the tower gives us a completely different result than using the tower's official height. Wouldn't that be an obvious hint that the tower's official height is bullshit and doesn't make sense mathematically? People have used several methods to calculate the height of the tower, its platforms width, etc. And not a single iteration of the methods are consistent with yours's.
If the rule is that officials are always taken over accurate pixel scaling, even despite the fact that there are several contradictions to the "official measurements" then there's something wrong with the site's standards that needs changing.
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So I found one from December of 2020 though it got put at island level so that shouldn't work, Though using The one from Therefir that put it at Low 7-B i'd be happy to redo it with the speed used from The High 7-C one
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@Earthyboy I don't actually know.
I'm currently not in the best state of mind right now, so maybe I'm speaking nonsense, might be best for you to ask a staff member.
I'm currently not in the best state of mind right now, so maybe I'm speaking nonsense, might be best for you to ask a staff member.
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