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My Hero Academia: America Brings Upgrades/Revisions

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The "reactions" only took place after the characters were hit.
Yep, you can clearly see that Tomura took damage from the lasers and only reflected them after being hit, and Star and Stripe was already being hit with the laser before she began activating a new rule to be able to catch the laser, so neither of them were fast enough to react anyway, assuming that the lasers are even being regarded as the speed of light.
 
Yep, you can clearly see that Tomura took damage from the lasers and only reflected them after being hit, and Star and Stripe was already being hit with the laser before she began activating a new rule to be able to catch the laser, so neither of them were fast enough to react anyway, assuming that the lasers are even being regarded as the speed of light.
She was hit before making the rule? How would that make sense. So she ranks the laser than creates the rule is what your saying?
 
Yep, you can clearly see that Tomura took damage from the lasers and only reflected them after being hit, and Star and Stripe was already being hit with the laser before she began activating a new rule to be able to catch the laser, so neither of them were fast enough to react anyway, assuming that the lasers are even being regarded as the speed of light.
How could they not be regarded as light? The move in a str8 line, they’re coming from america with grade a scientific resources and they fast.
 
The lasers do not met this site's criteria to be considered light speed.

"The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid or... The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way or reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror. The beam is called lightspeed by reliable sources. It is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source. It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera.

Shigaraki's Reflect Quirk has no reason to be assumed as a mirror based reflection. He doesn't become a mirror or something, he can likely just reflect attacks in general. Especially considering this series already has a Quirk called Reflect, and it isn't mirror reflection, it just reflects everything.

Also, as everyone one else said.. There is nothing that implies Star reacted to the laser before it hit her. Considering she's shown to have burns and her mask was even destroyed by the laser, I don't think she can react to them. Shigaraki clearly can't react to them, and she isn't portrayed as being blitzing faster than him.

They at best have one thing, a realistic origin point. That is the only proof they have, and it isn't good enough for them to be lightspeed.
 
How could they not be regarded as light? The move in a str8 line, they’re coming from america with grade a scientific resources and they fast.
I don't get why people keep saying that, moving in a straight line does not equal lightspeed.

That is not one of the criteria to be considered speed of light. And being fast means nothing, anything can be fast.
 
The lasers do not met this site's criteria to be considered light speed.

"The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid or... The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way or reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror. The beam is called lightspeed by reliable sources. It is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source. It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera.

Shigaraki's Reflect Quirk has no reason to be assumed as a mirror based reflection. He doesn't become a mirror or something, he can likely just reflect attacks in general. Especially considering this series already has a Quirk called Reflect, and it isn't mirror reflection, it just reflects everything.

Also, as everyone one else said.. There is nothing that implies Star reacted to the laser before it hit her. Considering she's shown to have burns and her mask was even destroyed by the laser, I don't think she can react to them. Shigaraki clearly can't react to them, and she isn't portrayed as being blitzing faster than him.

They at best have one thing, a realistic origin point. That is the only proof they have, and it isn't good enough for them to be lightspeed.
Jus reread the chp and it’s still a reaction am I wrong? Stars n stripes literally tells everyone to not get so cocky and then proceeds to get hit with said laser and says the laser is holdable. It can go either way also you bringing up the quirk reflect makes zero sense when we literally see mirrors for his quirk. Those mirrors reflect off lasers making the beams lightspeed. Then we have aoyama who has a costume literally made for his quirk to have multiple mirrors around it which has his lasers reflect off of them to shoot them in various places.
 
I don't get why people keep saying that, moving in a straight line does not equal lightspeed.

That is not one of the criteria to be considered speed of light. And being fast means nothing, anything can be fast.
Just a question. If a character has light manipulation and is controlling light itself in a manner that it bends and even twists at the user's whim would it invalidate it being SOL?
 
Just a question. If a character has light manipulation and is controlling light itself in a manner that it bends and even twists at the user's whim would it invalidate it being SOL?
this is what I was saying. Toru Hagakure literally makes a Lightspeed feat in the manga, in the anime they tread on this even better by showing us
 
Just a question. If a character has light manipulation and is controlling light itself in a manner that it bends and even twists at the user's whim would it invalidate it being SOL?
No, using light manipulation wouldn't invalidate something as being SoL for obvious reasons. They can manipulate light, but note that the opposite isn't true. Just because a light manipulation user can bend a "laser", doesn't mean it is SoL.
 
No, using light manipulation wouldn't invalidate something as being SoL for obvious reasons. They can manipulate light, but note that the opposite isn't true. Just because a light manipulation user can bend a "laser", doesn't mean it is SoL.
She’s refracting the laser. Which is light, she refracts the beam off her body and then sends it outwards which is LS and if it isn’t it’s damn near close
 
Just a question. If a character has light manipulation and is controlling light itself in a manner that it bends and even twists at the user's whim would it invalidate it being SOL?
Light Bending or changing shape without the influence of a great mass of gravity(like a real black hole)is one of the most damming counter-evidence for SOL is very hard to argue for lightspeed on the site if it does those things
 
No, using light manipulation wouldn't invalidate something as being SoL for obvious reasons. They can manipulate light, but note that the opposite isn't true. Just because a light manipulation user can bend a "laser", doesn't mean it is SoL.
Ok, thanks.
 
Light Bending or changing shape without the influence of a great mass of gravity(like a real black hole)is one of the most damming counter-evidence for SOL is very hard to argue for lightspeed on the site if it does those things
So your telling me since a invisible girl who’s power is to manipulate light due to her how quirk works is a counter argument for it not being light? How does that make sense bro? She’s manipulating light thru her invisible body. Light refracts off her literally it’s how she’s invisible I believe
 
So your telling me since a invisible girl who’s power is to manipulate light due to her how quirk works is a counter argument for it not being light? How does that make sense bro? She’s manipulating light thru her invisible body. Light refracts off her literally it’s how she’s invisible I believe
Invisible girl ain't an anti-argument for lightspeed , when did i even bring her up
 
Invisible girl ain't an anti-argument for lightspeed , when did i even bring her up
u say word for word that if your bending light without a gr8 mass of gravity like a (black hole) then it’s dammin anti argument for Lightspeed but if you weren’t talking about invisible girl then my fault but in the end what I said still makes sense about how she refracts/bends light
 
She’s refracting the laser. Which is light, she refracts the beam off her body and then sends it outwards which is LS and if it isn’t it’s damn near close
Not proof for lightspeed, this site does not accept that so don't argue with me. You're just wasting our time by doing so. Especially when you've brought this up multiple times and have been rejected.

Aoyama's laser is not portrayed as being lightspeed, even lightning is seen as too fast for 8% Deku and Bakugo to dodge. Yet Mina can easily dodge his Navel Laser, which is supposedly lightspeed? What form of logic is that, when even bullets are still threatening to them?
 
Not proof for lightspeed, this site does not accept that so don't argue with me. You're just wasting our time by doing so. Especially when you've brought this up multiple times and have been rejected.

Aoyama's laser is not portrayed as being lightspeed, even lightning is seen as too fast for 8% Deku and Bakugo to dodge. Yet Mina can easily dodge his Navel Laser, which is supposedly lightspeed? What form of logic is that, when even bullets are still threatening to them?
So how do I go about changing these rules? If u give me directions on how to get that done best believe you’ll see changes lol. This site downplays a lot of verses and especially mha, the things called outliers on this fandom really make zero sense sometimes so pls point me to the direction to change site standards.
 
Not proof for lightspeed, this site does not accept that so don't argue with me. You're just wasting our time by doing so. Especially when you've brought this up multiple times and have been rejected.

Aoyama's laser is not portrayed as being lightspeed, even lightning is seen as too fast for 8% Deku and Bakugo to dodge. Yet Mina can easily dodge his Navel Laser, which is supposedly lightspeed? What form of logic is that, when even bullets are still threatening to them?
Also pls show me where lightning is portrayed as too fast for deku? That wasn’t proven once. Kaminari is seen reacting to lightning from Amplivolt and before you say it isn’t real lightning how do you determine this? He’s using a super charged taser to receive the right amount of voltage and amps to call it lightning. Kaminari is seen blitzing In front of and absorbing
 
So how do I go about changing these rules? If u give me directions on how to get that done best believe you’ll see changes lol. This site downplays a lot of verses and especially mha, the things called outliers on this fandom really make zero sense sometimes so pls point me to the direction to change site standards.
Please stop talking about this.
 
dewit now

Now? Okay. Here.

@Therefir; I didn't do the entire calc all over again, but I did put this together to show a lower end for the depth being used. If you think the method looks fair enough off of the sandbox then I can go ahead and make lower end version of the calc for a full comparison.
 
So how do I go about changing these rules? If u give me directions on how to get that done best believe you’ll see changes lol. This site downplays a lot of verses and especially mha, the things called outliers on this fandom really make zero sense sometimes so pls point me to the direction to change site standards.
Give up and stop
 
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