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My Hero Academia: America Brings Upgrades/Revisions

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Therefir said:
Well, since 45% Deku is baseline 7-A+, 100% being on the same tier would be a problem.

Baseline High 7-A for current 100% Deku? Not sure if it even scales to Prime All Might.
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Maybe, I wasn't certain on that. I don't mind High 7-A 100%

Izuku states what he can do now is on par with All Might at 100%, I'm assuming he is talking about Faux 100% which should be comparable to 100%. Since 45% is not on par with All Might's 100%, as he is weaker than Shigaraki. He's comparing his strength to All Might, so at least Prime All Might should scale right?
 
Therefir said:
Well, since 45% Deku is baseline 7-A+, 100% being on the same tier would be a problem.

Baseline High 7-A for current 100% Deku? Not sure if it even scales to Prime All Might.
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Yeah i think 100% should be baseline high-7-A, not only it scales above his heroes rising version but his own heroes rising version scales far higher his air pressure
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
If Heroes Rising feat doesn’t get ruled as an outlier, All For One, All Might, and 100% Deku should get bumped up to High 7-A+ or just 6-C
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The Heroes Rising feat was recalculated at 7-A+ using a better image.
 
While All Might wasn't stated to be stronger than any man made weapon, he is stronger than anything we currently know (As Prime is still currently stronger than 100% Villain Hunter arc if I haven't misread things)
 
Therefir said:
The Heroes Rising feat was recalculated at 7-A+ using a better image.
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Ah. I still feel like High 7-A would be the best option then, but I honestly feel like Prime All Might should scale to the full missile count. (Considering from what we know, he is the strongest character in the show)
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
Ah. I still feel like High 7-A would be the best option then, but I honestly feel like Prime All Might should scale to the full missile count. (Considering from what we know, he is the strongest character in the show)
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Being the strongest character in the show, doesn't equal him scaling to man made weapons. He has zero reason to scale to the Missiles, all we truly know about Prime All Might is that he's stronger than any version of All Might we've seen. And is superior to Shigaraki.

Izuku states that what he can due now is on par with All Might at 100%, likely referring to his Faux 100% since Izuku knows 45% is weaker than Shigaraki. Faux 100% should be comparable to 100%, this implies that Izuku believes his current 100% in on par with All Might at 100%. Which scales to Prime All Might.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Being the strongest character in the show, doesn't equal him scaling to man made weapons. He has zero reason to scale to the Missiles, all we truly know about Prime All Might is that he's stronger than any version of All Might we've seen. And is superior to Shigaraki.

Izuku states that what he can due now is on par with All Might at 100%, likely referring to his Faux 100% since Izuku knows he's weaker than Shigaraki. Faux 100% should be comparable to 100%, this implies that Izuku believes his current 100% in on par with All Might at 100%. Which scales to Prime All Might.
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Ah ok, thanks, then yeah Prime Should scale to Baseline as well
 
The only one i am iffy on scaling to baseline is prime AFO since we so not know how he fought back then or exactly how the fight went, i guess you can rely on AFO damaging all might , but again how the wound happened is unknown
 
Theendzero13 said:
The only one i am iffy on scaling to baseline is prime AFO since we so not know how he fought back then or exactly how the fight went
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To be honest, Prime AFO's rating is not important. We aren't even allowed to use him in versus threads because of that reason, we know nothing about his fighting style.

For all we know he had lots of dura negation Quirks and high speed, but couldn't match All Might in power. I really don't care what his rating is, High 7-A or Unknown.
 
TheRustyOne said:
To be honest, Prime AFO's rating is not important. We aren't even allowed to use him in versus threads because of that reason, we know nothing about his fighting style.

For all we know he had lots of dura negation Quirks and high speed, but couldn't match All Might in power. I really don't care what his rating is, High 7-A or Unknown.
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That is fine i guess
 
TheRustyOne said:
To be honest, Prime AFO's rating is not important. We aren't even allowed to use him in versus threads because of that reason, we know nothing about his fighting style.

For all we know he had lots of dura negation Quirks and high speed, but couldn't match All Might in power. I really don't care what his rating is, High 7-A or Unknown.
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Pretty much a gray area with AFO, but he is still relative to All Might in strength so High 7-A should be good
 
TheRustyOne said:
To be honest, Prime AFO's rating is not important. We aren't even allowed to use him in versus threads because of that reason, we know nothing about his fighting style.

For all we know he had lots of dura negation Quirks and high speed, but couldn't match All Might in power. I really don't care what his rating is, High 7-A or Unknown.
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perhaps prime might's plus Ultra would be 6-C? (As it seems to boost his tier)
 
Acer__ said:
perhaps prime might's plus Ultra would be 6-C? (As it seems to boost his tier)
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No, we don't upscale like that without a actual multiplier. Prime All Might's Plus Ultra being a 4.3X multiplier isn't going to slide.
 
TheRustyOne said:
If Therefir's new method for the missile calc is accepted, I assume this would be alright. Note: These are not the actual descriptions we'll put on the profiles, I'm just explaining what is what and why. Does this seem okay?

Shigaraki: '''Mountain level+''' 640 Megatons (Is equal to a Near High-End Nomu, who barely survived the explosion of 10 Tiamat Missiles. Which means he should be able to withstand the explosion of a single missile. Is stated to be as strong as weakened All Might. Was able to take countless 100% Smashes, from Deku, who is stronger than he was in Heroes Rising. Albeit he took heavy injures even with regeneration. Heroes Rising Deku performed a 740 Megaton feat, with the air pressure from his punch)

USJ All Might: '''Mountain level+''' (Is stated to be just as durable as Shigaraki, who can withstand the explosion of a single Tiamat missile. Is equal to the USJ Nomu in strength, who is strong enough to harm him), '''higher''' with Plus Ultra

USJ Nomu: '''Mountain level+''' (Can injure weakened All Might, who is just as durable as Shigaraki), '''higher''' with Shock Absorption (Withstood over three hundred hits from Plus Ultra All Might)

High-End/Hood: '''Mountain level+''' (The doctor states that their stats are beyond the Upper-Tier Nomu, which should at least make the comparable to the USJ Nomu)

Gigantomachia: '''Mountain level+''' (Pulverized part of a mountain over a short period of time. Destroyed 20 cities on his way to Shigaraki. Doctor Garaki, despite unleashing dozens of Near High-End Nomu, believed that Machia's arrive would bring total destruction. Was able to take a fire enhanced attack from Endeavor, despite being weakened with a sedative)

Endeavor: '''Mountain level+''' 550 Megatons, Baseline 7-A+ (Is able to take a direct punch from Shigaraki, though his head was bleeding from the hit. Is able to take being tossed through buildings by Hood. Is able to clash with Shigaraki's Air Cannon, which is strong enough to harm him)

Two Heroes/Kamino All Might: '''Mountain level+''' higher than 550 Megatons, less than 640 Megatons. (Is slightly weaker than before, but is still stronger than Endeavor), '''higher''' with Plus Ultra

Mirko: '''Mountain level+''' > 640 Megatons with Rabbit (Her kicks are strong enough to tear off body parts of multiple High-Ends), Base Dura '''Mountain level''' 100 Megatons, Baseline 7-A (Able to survive being thrown by a Hospital High-End], who is comparable in strength to [[Hood]], though its attack heavily damaged her] even when she soften the impact with her legs. Implied that she wouldn't have been able to keep moving if it weren't for that), '''higher''' with Rabbit (Her legs can withstand the recoil of her kicks)

Crust: '''Mountain level+''' 550 MT with Shield (His shields can cause some damage to the High-Ends), '''higher''' 640 MT with Shield (Is able to block hits from the High-Ends)

Nejire: Possibly '''Mountain level+''' 550 MT (Might have been able to injure a Near High-End, which are stated to be as strong as Hood. AFO considered her and Todoroki's Quirks to be powerful)

Best Jeanist: '''Mountain level+''' 640 MT with Carbon Fibers (Was able to restrain and struggle against Gigantomachia for a period of time, but was overpowered eventually)

100% BoS Deku and Muscular: '''Mountain level+''' (Is equal to Two Heroes/Kamino All Might, who is superior to Endeavor. Muscular can take a direct hit from 100%, and overpower a slightly weakened 100% punch)

45% Deku: '''Mountain level+''' 550 MT (Took a direct hit from AFO Shigaraki to the stomach, though it made him cough up blood. Is able to injure those that can harm him)

Lady Nagant: '''Mountain level+''' with Rifle (Is able to break through Deku's Mid-Gauntlet with her bullets, which can withstand his 45% without breaking. Is able to hurt 45% Deku with a jab from her rifle)

Dabi: '''Mountain level+''' higher than 550 MT with Flashfire (His flames are stated to be superior to Endeavor's, and was able to overpower Shoto's Flashfire)

Shoto: '''Mountain level+''' 550 MT with Flashfire/Flashfreeze (Is capable of using Flashfire on the same level as Endeavor, and was able to injure a weakened AFO Shigaraki alongside Nejire)

Prime All Might/Current 100% Deku: At least '''Mountain level+''' 740 Megatons Was able to do this during the events of Heroes Rising, with the air pressure from his punch), '''higher''' with Fa Jin
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so is this the scaling that is going to be used?
 
If that calc is accepted, and people agree with what I wrote, than yes it will be.

Though it is undecided for right now, we just have to wait.
 
TheRustyOne said:
If that calc is accepted, and people agree with what I wrote, than yes it will be.

Though it is undecided for right now, we just have to wait.
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Assuming the calc gets accepted will prime all might and current deku scale to baseline large mountain , like everyone here seens to agree with that
 
Theendzero13 said:
Assuming the calc gets accepted will prime all might and current deku scale to baseline large mountain , like everyone here seens to agree with that
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If people agree with that, than yeah, since upscaling is something we do case by case. But considering the reasonings, I have no problem with upscaling 100%/Prime All Might to baseline High 7-A.
 
Yeah I agree with the scaleing and baseline high 7-A prime all might and villan hunt arc 100% deku
 
I must ask how Heavy Payload and other such quirks affect AP (Though if they don't that's fine to)
 
Acer__ said:
I must ask how Heavy Payload and other such quirks affect AP (Though if they don't that's fine to)
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Heavy Payload likely made Air Cannon stronger, however base Air Cannon is weaker than Shigaraki's physical strength. As shown by the damage it did to Endeavor, compared to his own punch. So at best we can say Heavy Payload made Air Cannon as strong as Shigaraki's punch.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Heavy Payload likely made Air Cannon stronger, however base Air Cannon is weaker than Shigaraki's physical strength. As shown by the damage it did to Endeavor, compared to his own punch. So at best we can say Heavy Payload made Air Cannon as strong as Shigaraki's punch.
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I see (how would Kinetic Booster and Strength enhancer work, AFO has 4 copies of strength enhancer)
 
Acer__ said:
I see (how would Kinetic Booster and Strength enhancer work, AFO has 4 copies of strength enhancer)
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No idea, since we aren't told how much they increase AFO's Air Cannon. Just that there is 4 of them. And Shigaraki hasn't actually used those Quirks, if he does I hope we'll get an actual multiplier.
 
TheRustyOne said:
If people agree with that, than yeah, since upscaling is something we do case by case. But considering the reasonings, I have no problem with upscaling 100%/Prime All Might to baseline High 7-A.
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So the proposed Scaling ranges from 7-A (100 Megatons) to 7-A+ (550, 640, & 740 Megatons) with High 7-A via Upscaling right?

So the Difference between 1 Gigaton/1000 Megatons and 740 is 1.35x, likely lower because of how the feat was performed (Air Pressure)
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
So the proposed Scaling ranges from 7-A (100 Megatons) to 7-A+ (550, 640, & 740 Megatons) with High 7-A via Upscaling right?

So the Difference between 1 Gigaton/1000 Megatons and 740 is 1.35x, likely lower because of how the feat was performed (Air Pressure)
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Lower or higher? because 100% shouldn't be in the same tier as 45% so baseline High 7-A was the best option
 
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