Moustache is in another dimension. Limbo vs Yhwach

[Firephoenixearl]

Ok now that CRT is done, i can do this.

Limbo vs First key Yhwach (If it's a stomp imma alter the keys a bit).

Speed Equal.

Otherwise SBA.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Welp...what could go wrong?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I'm pretty sure you need to write a loadout for Limbo, unless it's an imaginary composite.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I'd say composite tbh. Actually i wonder if a "composite Warframe" is allowed as in "the player" so that any warframe can be used. Though i guess that'd just be The Operator fighting to his fullest.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Composite Warframe with all mods and weapons at the same time...? That's not a thing.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Composite Warframe with all mods and weapons at the same time...? That's not a thing.

Not at the same time. More like, not given, so any can be used, just not stuff like 11 warframe mods for example, but any 10 mods are allowed.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Tell that to literally any composite ever made

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Tell that to literally any composite ever made

Ikr. xD

Why is it assumed to be "ok" to just have anything even though they can't in a composite profile though?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Because 99% of composites can't work unless you assume that the character just has everything they can have

most composites also aren't from just one game or whatever, or said game is absolutely massive (like with Limbo)

 

[Warren_Valion]

Limbo vs First key Yhwach

At least make it final key Yhwach + Sternritter Powers + Yamamoto's Bankai.

Otherwise, I think it is a stomp from just reading over Limbo's profile.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Some have lore that allows composite like Destiny, they can transmat gear instantly to switch out.

Here we're talking about A remote controlled mech essentially, that needs load outs directly changed in a machine on a ship. It's not just pulling out a sword out of nowhere lol.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Limbo vs First key Yhwach

At least make it final key Yhwach + Sternritter Powers + Yamamoto's Bankai.

Otherwise, I think it is a stomp from just reading over Limbo's profile.

I second this

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Limbo vs First key Yhwach
At least make it final key Yhwach + Sternritter Powers + Yamamoto's Bankai.

Otherwise, I think it is a stomp from just reading over Limbo's profile.

I don't think Limbo stomps that badly.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Some have lore that allows composite like Destiny, they can transmat gear instantly to switch out.
Here we're talking about A remote controlled mech essentially, that needs load outs directly changed in a machine on a ship. It's not just pulling out a sword out of nowhere lol.

Characters like Composite Link have stuff he genuinely cannot have at the same time. Like all equipment from all games even though he loses some/gains some in different games, he's assumed to have them and be able to use them all.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

wait

>Limbo doesn't resist fate hax

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Firephoenixearl]

wait
>Limbo doesn't resist fate hax

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yup, he's immune to stuff like soul and mind hax, and resistant to some minor stuff, but things like fate, probability or any kind of reality warping is bad for him.

 

[Warren_Valion]

I don't think Limbo stomps that badly.

I am pretty sure the thirty immortalities that Limbo has make it a stomp.

This is how I see the fight going:

Limbo dies due to disintegrating via AP difference of Reiatsu crush.

The Operator beings Limbo back, now having adapted to the matter destruction of the Reiatsu crush, and proceeds to hax Yhwach into oblivion

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Limbo has no counter to the fate hax

Yhwach stomps

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Base Yhwach doesn't have fate hax, he doesn't much of anything except power steal and absorption.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Thirty immortalities. Yeah...xD

Reiatsu crush works via soul energy no? Limbo lacks one entirely. And Limbo has like tons of stuff that can amp his defenses or reduce dmg to the point of getting like 0.1% of the total dmg dealt to him.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

he doesn't need a soul to get crushed your body gets disintegrated.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Though final Yhwach may be a fair match depending on something. Can yhwach deal with mind hax and possession?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

where exactly does mind hax and possession come from if were talking about Limbo? I'm confused.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

where exactly does mind hax and possession come from if were talking about Limbo? I'm confused.

The operator obviously, if the operator gets tired he can just possess yhwach like how he did with Umbra.

Though Limbo's new and shiny info manip might be good enough too.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Thirty immortalities. Yeah...xD
Reiatsu crush works via soul energy no? Limbo lacks one entirely. And Limbo has like tons of stuff that can amp his defenses or reduce dmg to the point of getting like 0.1% of the total dmg dealt to him.

Reiatsu is the Spiritual Pressure that comes from one exerting their Reiryoku - their Spiritual Energy.

Reiatsu has numerous effects from making you sweat, to feeling phantom pains, to paralyzing you, to knocking you out, and if the AP difference is high enough - disintegrate you.

I am rather sure that Reiatsu works on physical beings as well, not just spiritual. I think I remember Aizen disintegrating a normal human or something like that.

So I believe that it will still effect Limbo.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Can Limbo even see Yhwach?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Can Limbo even see Yhwach?

Not important. Since even if he can't, Limbo can still sense him.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

sense him how? invisible beings in bleach can't be sensed unless you can detect spiritual energy.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Yhwach is a Quincy, not a Shinigami.

Why would he be invisible?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Because he's only been in soul society and you have to be made of spiritual matter to be there which is invisible to people who can't detect it or see spiritual beings? we already had a whole thread on this for the quincy in soul society.

 

[AstralKing7]

I agree I've seen that used in debates before when soul reapers and hollows are the only ones invisible right

 

[Warren_Valion]

Because he's only been in soul society and you have to be made of spiritual matter to be there? we already had a whole thread on this for the quincy in soul society.

He's not in the Soul Society - he's in Central Park, New York.

He should be visible here.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Neutral ground, he's only been shown as a spiritual being therefore he gains the properties of spiritual beings. You don't just leave soul society can become kishi.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Neutral ground, he's only been shown as a spiritual being therefore he gains the properties of spiritual beings. You don't just leave soul society can become kishi.

SBA means they are in Central Park - which is in The World of the Living.

Again, Yhwach will be visible here as his physical matter wasn't converted by going to the Soul Society.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

That's not how it works lol, he's a spiritual being.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Yhwach is a spiritual body that is entering the World of Living. He isn't going through a converter so he is invisible like every other soul is.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I made a fight and it turned into a CRT. *evil laugh*

 

[Warren_Valion]

That's not how it works lol, he's a spiritual being.

Yeah, it is.

Read the Standard Battle Assumptions page. They start in Central Park - which again - exists in the World of the Living.

Also, we saw Yhwach as a child being carried and touched by regular people. So we can see he has been shown as a physical being before.

According to Urahara, you go through Reishi Henkan-Ki and get your Kishi (Physical Matter) converted into Reshi (Spiritual Matter).

I assume Yhwach's shadow teleportation does something similar, or else they were never even invisible in the Soul Society. Just because they can interact with the Spiritual, does not make them invisible.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Yhwach is a spiritual body that is entering the World of Living. He isn't going through a converter so he is invisible like every other soul is.

When was this ever stated?

He's a Quincy.

He was constantly touched by normal people, and even named after said peoples' God.

When was he ever a spiritual being? He can interact with the Spiritual, but that doesn't mean he has a Spiritual body.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Go make a CRT if you feel some way about it Warren, he's a spiritual being that existed in the soul society along with the other sternritters in the arc he's appeared in. In all his keys he's only a soul. This is very simple to understand.