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It's not. It's just how scaling works. If anything it's your own bias that will deny it. Dragon Ball allows us to speed & power scale to determine who has the higher power level. Especially when 1 is limited to below a specific tier and 1 surpasses it.I did not just see someone argue 2-C GT above. Like, seriously, that's the worst argument I've heard yet.
I couldn't care less about DBGT so I'm not sure how you somehow got bias from that. Really, claiming bias when someone disagrees with you is silly.It's not. It's just how scaling works. If anything it's your own bias that will deny it. Dragon Ball allows us to speed & power scale to determine who has the higher power level. Especially when 1 is limited to below a specific tier and 1 surpasses it.
I couldn't care less about DBGT so I'm not sure how you somehow got bias from that. Really, claiming bias when someone disagrees with you is silly.
And to nip this in the bud, teleportation isn't speed.
When debating our subjective interpretations we are also asserting our own biases. Nothing wrong with that. Just that there comes a time where it doesn't matter how cold hard a fact is people deny just based off of biases. But let me guess.... I'm talking to the utmost objective non interpretation unbiased guy here huh? Anyways lol that's not what this is about. Lmfao.
That's not how we treat it on this site so I have no idea what you're even asserting here.Instantaneous Movement is taking you from point a to point b. It is still faster than X amount of distance over time. Therefore it is still distance covered by time aka speed. Really it doesn't matter if you call it speed or not. A spade is a spade. Instantaneous Movement = distance covered by time still.
Why is it not how you treat it on this site? Is it not faster than a 35 minute time lapse? Sure as hell got Goku to Earth faster than a 35 minute travel.That's not how we treat it on this site so I have no idea what you're even asserting here.
Eh, but if you still feel sure about this, power to you.
It's teleportation not speed here.Why is it not how you treat it on this site? Is it not faster than a 35 minute time lapse? Sure as hell got Goku to Earth faster than a 35 minute travel.
You said that already. I asked you why and gave an example of teleportation in fiction being faster than something.It's teleportation not speed here.
Why is teleportation taking you from point a to point b in a time faster than 35 minutes?Teleportation is not speed
Who here was using teleportation as somebodies speed stat? Total red herring. I said specifically someone showcasing Ki faster than said ability whilst another character has their Ki slower than that ability. Lol "nip this at the bud" was it? Teleportation was nothing but a measuring stick for my scaling. Not sure how people on THIS site gets that wrong.Because teleportation is an ability? While speed isn't?
Teleportation is faster, yes, but it cannot be used as speed because it is not speed
DB fans will downplay anything that doesn’t bust a multiverse on screen. Which is funny since going strictly by feats, Goku is just 4-A.I seen downplay in comic vine where they had Sentry/The Void (Both of them were used) lose against Goku.
They called Sentry and The Void only galaxy level while Goku is high multiversal level.
Ikr. They do this to every community. Tbh Whis is featless. Daishinkan too. Lol power level of 0? Below planet level?DB fans will downplay anything that doesn’t bust a multiverse on screen. Which is funny since going strictly by feats, Goku is just 4-A.
don't remind them that most of what they scale to is just statements (Vegetas Planet Bust, Cell's Solar system bust, etc)DB fans will downplay anything that doesn’t bust a multiverse on screen. Which is funny since going strictly by feats, Goku is just 4-A.
I did the same thing with Nasuverse and BlazBlue with scaling to statements and showing the feats and hax from screenshots and the lore but...well they (DBZ fans) called it all outliners.don't remind them that most of what they scale to is just statements (Vegetas Planet Bust, Cell's Solar system bust, etc)
Has there ever been an actual on-screen destruction of a solar system in canon Dragon Ball? Zeno aside.DB fans will downplay anything that doesn’t bust a multiverse on screen. Which is funny since going strictly by feats, Goku is just 4-A.
Oh yeah. That and the shock waves travelling throughout the universe during Goku’s fight with Beerus are both 4-A.I think the greatest non statement feat is actually 4-A to 3-C? Via the broly destroying a galaxy scene
They do shake the planets, but I don't recall them ever destroying anythingThe shockwaves doesn't really destroy anything, no
These guys are far more wanked than downplayed...Saitama and Anos, and you know the reasons for that.
Saitama and Anos, and you know the reasons for that.
looks at the characters mentionedSaitama and Anos, and you know the reasons for that.
True, like on face value, I wouldn't expect people to think these characters are like beyond universalWhen I think about it, if you told anyone that Twin Peaks is one of the strongest verses in fiction, they'll look at you very weirdly.
Anos should be low 1C, and saitama should be 5C+. I thought this thread was about downgraded characters. So I mentioned about them.These guys are far more wanked than downplayed...
looks at the characters mentioned
looks at the title of the thread
YOU PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE FOOL
Whatsaitama should be 5C+
Saitama was never 5-C+ whatAnos should be low 1C, and saitama should be 5C+.
He destroyed the moon's surface in the anime when he was thrown into the outerspace.It happened when he was about to take off from moon to earth. Anyways, I dunno care about himSaitama was never 5-C+ what
That's not 5-C.He destroyed the moon's surface in the anime when he was thrown into the outerspace.
both of them are wrong actuallyAnos should be low 1C, and saitama should be 5C+
This was calculated at High 6-A lolHe destroyed the moon's surface in the anime when he was thrown into the outerspace.It happened when he was about to take off from moon to earth. Anyways, I dunno care about him
That's only High 6-A. Destroying it's surface is not 5-C let alone 5-C+He destroyed the moon's surface in the anime when he was thrown into the outerspace.It happened when he was about to take off from moon to earth. Anyways, I dunno care about him