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Most downplayed character, in your opinion

I did not just see someone argue 2-C GT above. Like, seriously, that's the worst argument I've heard yet.
 
I did not just see someone argue 2-C GT above. Like, seriously, that's the worst argument I've heard yet.
It's not. It's just how scaling works. If anything it's your own bias that will deny it. Dragon Ball allows us to speed & power scale to determine who has the higher power level. Especially when 1 is limited to below a specific tier and 1 surpasses it.
 
It's not. It's just how scaling works. If anything it's your own bias that will deny it. Dragon Ball allows us to speed & power scale to determine who has the higher power level. Especially when 1 is limited to below a specific tier and 1 surpasses it.
I couldn't care less about DBGT so I'm not sure how you somehow got bias from that. Really, claiming bias when someone disagrees with you is silly.

And to nip this in the bud, teleportation isn't speed.
 
I couldn't care less about DBGT so I'm not sure how you somehow got bias from that. Really, claiming bias when someone disagrees with you is silly.

And to nip this in the bud, teleportation isn't speed.


When debating our subjective interpretations we are also asserting our own biases. Nothing wrong with that. Just that there comes a time where it doesn't matter how cold hard a fact is people deny just based off of biases. But let me guess.... I'm talking to the utmost objective non interpretation unbiased guy here huh? Anyways lol that's not what this is about. Lmfao.

Instantaneous Movement is taking you from point a to point b. It is still faster than X amount of distance over time. Therefore it is still distance covered by time aka speed. Really it doesn't matter if you call it speed or not. A spade is a spade. Instantaneous Movement = distance covered by time still.

 
Instantaneous Movement is taking you from point a to point b. It is still faster than X amount of distance over time. Therefore it is still distance covered by time aka speed. Really it doesn't matter if you call it speed or not. A spade is a spade. Instantaneous Movement = distance covered by time still.
That's not how we treat it on this site so I have no idea what you're even asserting here.

Eh, but if you still feel sure about this, power to you.
 
That's not how we treat it on this site so I have no idea what you're even asserting here.

Eh, but if you still feel sure about this, power to you.
Why is it not how you treat it on this site? Is it not faster than a 35 minute time lapse? Sure as hell got Goku to Earth faster than a 35 minute travel.
 
Because teleportation is an ability? While speed isn't?

Teleportation is faster, yes, but it cannot be used as speed because it is not speed
 
I seen downplay in comic vine where they had Sentry/The Void (Both of them were used) lose against Goku.

They called Sentry and The Void only galaxy level while Goku is high multiversal level.
 
Because teleportation is an ability? While speed isn't?

Teleportation is faster, yes, but it cannot be used as speed because it is not speed
Who here was using teleportation as somebodies speed stat? Total red herring. I said specifically someone showcasing Ki faster than said ability whilst another character has their Ki slower than that ability. Lol "nip this at the bud" was it? Teleportation was nothing but a measuring stick for my scaling. Not sure how people on THIS site gets that wrong.
 
DB fans will downplay anything that doesn’t bust a multiverse on screen. Which is funny since going strictly by feats, Goku is just 4-A.
don't remind them that most of what they scale to is just statements (Vegetas Planet Bust, Cell's Solar system bust, etc)
 
don't remind them that most of what they scale to is just statements (Vegetas Planet Bust, Cell's Solar system bust, etc)
I did the same thing with Nasuverse and BlazBlue with scaling to statements and showing the feats and hax from screenshots and the lore but...well they (DBZ fans) called it all outliners.
 
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DB fans will downplay anything that doesn’t bust a multiverse on screen. Which is funny since going strictly by feats, Goku is just 4-A.
Has there ever been an actual on-screen destruction of a solar system in canon Dragon Ball? Zeno aside.
Without calculations, I doubt DB even has a 4-C feat.
 
I think the greatest non statement feat is actually 4-A to 3-C? Via the broly destroying a galaxy scene
 
I think the greatest non statement feat is actually 4-A to 3-C? Via the broly destroying a galaxy scene
Oh yeah. That and the shock waves travelling throughout the universe during Goku’s fight with Beerus are both 4-A.
 
I was talking about canon Dragon Ball, the movies are treated as a separate continuity.

The shockwaves doesn't really destroy anything, no? We treat tremors and shockwaves as something that would yield something AP, which is not necessarily wrong.
But Dragon Ball fans are the last people I'd expect to complain about the lack of on-screen actual destruction feats. Like, something that's actually destroyed. When most fights still operate on a 5-B scale despite universal statements in the first arc of Super.
 
When I think about it, if you told anyone that Twin Peaks is one of the strongest verses in fiction, they'll look at you very weirdly.
 
When I think about it, if you told anyone that Twin Peaks is one of the strongest verses in fiction, they'll look at you very weirdly.
True, like on face value, I wouldn't expect people to think these characters are like beyond universal
 
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