No transcripts, except for several community translations, at this moment given there isn’t an official localization. The one mentioned was one on SpaceBattles. I can link that later.
That’s what Xeno does for every migrating Elder. It was also not even born yet, and just reenacting what it did for the others, it’s not like it knew the place would blow up and willingly chose to pull Zorah there.
The phrasing still feels a bit strange if it would be an event that would directly result in Xeno'jiiva just immediately dying to their own hubris (Just saying "It was called here by Xeno'jiiva to make one last stand" instead of mentioning any amount of spite or how Xeno's methods would have backfired on them)
There's no personality or hubris at play here from where I can see. Xeno'jiiva is literally just sending out pheremones to capitalize on the natural inclination of aged elder dragons to travel to the New World and absorb energy upon their death. Xeno'jiiva is never stated, or even implied, anywhere, to be conscious of what it's doing until its birth. It's just a gestating organism, a fetus, essentially, that's doing the same thing it's been doing for the past fifty years, and had no way of knowing whether Zorah would explode it or not, or indeed that it was a Zorah it was luring this time.
This kinda loops back around to Safi'jiiva being able to survive and absorb this energy when it was still growing and thus Xeno likely being able to as well (or at least scale that high)
I don't think the Everstream is a force multiplier, it would have just spread their power around the place and thus greatly increased how much overall devastation it causes instead of all it's energy pouring into one specific location and causing a cataclysm specifically there
When and where is Safi'jiiva stated or depicted to survive a Zorah explosion? We have reason to believe the Zorah skull is really ancient, and no reason to believe Safi predates the Guiding Lands or that explosion. Plus, we already have members of the same species scaling vastly differently, and no reason to scale Xeno to Safi rather than the other way around when Xeno is a young, incubating, immature version of what Safi is, before molting countless times and absorbing more bioenergy. That'd be like scaling Gore Magala to a feat that a Shagaru can pull off, even assuming that's what's happening.
That sounds like the more reasonable explanation as to why they fixated on the Everstream.
What specifically? It's obviously old, but Elder Dragons in general are about a missed semi-colin from having Longevity to begin with and Safi is a mature version of something we knew operated for about 50 years, if I'm remembering right?
Even though nothing in this statement implies Safi'jiiva is as old as the Guiding Lands, let's assume it is. We have zero evidence or even implication that it was even in the location when the creating explosion happened. The Zorah explosion most likely made the Guiding Lands. Before it was likely just a tiny island or just sea. Regardless of the possibility that it could have had a Safi'jiiva just hanging in the area at the time, there is just nothing indicating it was there or that it lived through such an explosion.
If you want to bring up the species point, Safi'jiiva is the matured form of Xeno'jiiva after having molted from absorbing the earth's energy countless times and, following this theory, was sufficiently mature enough and with enough surplus energy to lay several Xeno'jiiva cocoons, in a world where Shagaru Magala, an elder dragon currently treated as equal to or superior to Kushala and the like, molts from Gore Magala, which is broadly considered to be an apex-level monster. Xeno'jiiva just hatched.
We know that Zorah is meant to die in the Rotten Vale, which, yeah the Guiding Lands has it's equivalent, but it wouldn't if Zorah was the thing creating it in the first place. Either it randomly decided to go into the ocean to make another island, or it was drawn there by Safi'jiiva and detonated that way
When I say Safi, I mean them while they were still maturing and thus at a stage where they'd be lured by Zorah. I mean Xeno'jiiva in all terms, but I didn't want to be confusing, which... is still confusing.
just whenever you want, we have everything out there (you could probably out madness manipulation from Dragon Element in the same swoop, too)
Zorah specimens dying in the ocean and creating land is a base concept about the world, predating creatures like the Jiivas luring them around. It's kind of treated as a natural-ish thing to return Zorah to the sea in MHW. One of the images I linked above referencing Zorah exploding explicitly describes the New World (or at least the beginnings of it, starting from what would become the Rotten Vale and Everstream) first being created from a Zorah exploding on the sea floor anyways. Making land from sea sort of comes with the "volcanic dragon" package. All in all, I don't think it was drawn by Safi.
Considering there are zero links for any of our points regarding dragon element's interactions with the mind or intelligence, I suppose the ball is in my court to at least come up with a source. I'll probably try for "Animalistic" and "High Animalistic" for monsters aside from the ones specifically mentioned as being "superhuman" or whatnot.
It's mentioned that it has happened, but we don't really see any Zorah Skeleton in the new world to back this up, or on any of the other islands besides the one with a fully grown Safi'jiiva. Admittedly this is one of those situations where we have to pull a lot of info from obscure texts and ancient histories we never get to see but, for as much as I was skeptical when you released your initial draft for a refurbishing of Xeno's page, it's really an impasse from
I'll be honest I hate the idea of "varies from High 8-C to High 6-C" on every Apex monster page but at this point I'm really just stalling the pages from becoming more accurate for the amount of times it's shown that at least some specimens are indeed just that strong, even if not at large
I will say that if a creature dies and explodes on the bottom of the ocean, and this explosion causes tectonic plates to be impacted and to erupt a massive land mass from the ocean floor, that will ultimately grow and expand to become an entire continent rising above the sea over tens of thousands to hundreds of millions of years, then it's permissible to not have players stumble across the bones of that creature. Entire continents take hundreds of millions of years to be created, a far cry from something as small as the Guiding Lands, and the only fossils you'd find dating that old are those that were buried in the ground and not sticking out anywhere. As an aside, the book also mentions the Dalamadur (or Dalamadur-like species) came to the New World later and created the Vale with their bodies when they died. I could link the picture if there is interest, of course.
Interesting possibilities for sure, but I think:
As much as I would also like profiles to have just one rating, they are for entire species rather than individual characters, so it is sort of inevitable that this kind of issue comes up. It would be like if you had a listing for "Monster" in OPM rather than individual pages for Orochi, Black Sperm, or Manako, or "Human" for that matter. Although, the third option would be to just slap on a singular rating of High 6-C on most/all monsters, and just said elder dragons are just on the higher end. Sure, there is definitely some willing suspension of disbelief (greater than otherwise) going on with that, but not much more than believing monsters can destroy whole regions in their vast power and yet still have their back be broken from a rock being dropped on them or being greatly injured by being flinch-shotted off a six-meter drop.
That is what a likely/possibly rating is for, there are plenty instances of something like this happening
The explosion is a lot smaller in pure diameter, yeah. We already know this is a thing with how long it takes new landmasses to be formed and that the damage was supposed to be contained in the rotten vale, but having it happen in the everstream spreads it's energy to melt the entire continent wholesale.
It's really just what one has to do
I’d agree with a “At least High 6-C, possibly/likely higher” here.
Sure, yeah. The entire continent exploding is already essentially the worst thing that could happen to the ecologies of the New World, and human intervention ensured that didn’t happen. Evacuating would not have been a good outcome in the slightest, and the climax isn’t made any less… climactic for it. Whether Xeno would have survived the blast is not going to change that.
On an unrelated note, Nergigante may be portrayed as a force for balance, but that’s not because it intentionally picks and chooses targets to restore some kind of order or tries to force its prey into hiding, it’s just because Nergigante is adapted to go after the biggest source of bioenergy that is close and convenient to eat and attacks that. It, as a whole, is a species depicted to chase and prey on strong monsters- look no further than Stories 2 or Iceborne, or World.
I think I figured out where I got this from (assuming the source isn't just that I completely made it up)
Tsujimoto was not the original creator, but instead has been the producer for games in the series since Freedom 2 in 2007. Kaname Fujioka was the director of the original Monster Hunter game but still maintains a central position in the series as executive director and art director of titles as recent as Iceborne.
I don't think he would agree with most of them. They're interested in making games that keep a relatively consistent gameplay loop (using big weapons and the environment to gain the advantage in hand-to-hand combat with large animals), not trying to keep perfect consistency between titles and feats. As such, there will always be feats that indicate a higher tier (such as Kushala clearing the skies with its wind powers) and feats that indicate a lower tier (such as being able to drop crystals on Kushala to knock it over and break its parts).
As someone whose being on this wiki much longer than you I'm curious how you got this preconception from VSBW, when you look at the Herald level tierings for Marvel/DC (compared to Death Battle), the constant yo-yo tierings for the HST, the mess that is the Pokémon ratings/profiles, etc.
It is true that I don't follow the wiki for many other settings, but when you have several games where you can just drop rocks on the heads and backs of monsters to break them and knock them down while dealing a significant chunk of damage or have monsters take damage by being dropped off a cliff from gravity alone, or monsters that can get themselves stuck in walls, and monsters are shown requiring effort to smash through stuff like trees or a small stone barricade, yet a single cutscene of a Lagiacrus breaking an undersea pillar three games ago is used to scale everyone while ignoring all of the other examples, there's definitely a selection going on. What else does one call that? Plus, there's also the idea that calcs aren't "worth it" if they don't supersede existing feats earlier in this thread. That was the basis for my statement.
In matching with the blue-grey theme, Legiana or Azure Rathalos might look nice.
I change it up a lot, but recently I've been having my World hunter in MR Kushala Armor w/o helmet. I really like the neutral tones and burnished knight aesthetic. It'd probably be "my" armor, considering my profile picture is of a Kushala Daora from afar, too.
In short, all we know about that is they're a distinct species and definitely not half-breeds of humans and wyverns, and we don't know if they're physically compatible with humans.
Doesn't stop some MH fans making waifu material outta of the wyverian sisters of Kamura heh!
Interesting, I guess. What are your guys' results?
I suggest messaging either @Mr._Bambu or @DMUA to give they blessing and then you can publish them no problem, ofc don't forget to link them to the MH verse page with the respective tags/icons.
Fatalis, go wear his armour.
Yup the armour of the black dragon is simply to die for.
just create a new page and add all the categories it needs (including the {{ around the tiers)
And for a good weapon?
Any Greatsword, unga bunga
