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Can you callSo have you reached any agreements/conclusions here?
I can call them but out of curiosity, how come? Is there something that needs to be sorted out?Can you call this members?
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Toichiro in the anime creates sonic booms at 50% so that where that comes fromIsn't the Subsonic+ value used do to all the sonic booms the characters are easily able to do while flying (don't even Mob and Toichiro were making them various times in their fight)? Like I sort of remember even characters far lower than them being able to do such a things. I underestand not to use other calced speed because calc staking, but if demostrably the characters are easily above Subsonic+ without even the need of calcs I don't see the problem with use it Subsonic+ as lowball.
In regards to the subsonic+ scaling at this point Base Mob is so far superior to Shimazaki (The one who performed the subsonic+ feat) that he runs the moment he senses his energy. I really feel Subsonic+ would be the best to use since we straight up have confirmation in-universe that Mob is superiorI don't think existing calculations are necessarily grounds for this, otherwise we'd just use said existing calculations... which we don't, because calc stacking
Well these lowballed assumptions are unfortunately the best that can be done sometimes.
Let's wait for additional input, though
Espers like Mob have no problem with this. Even Teruki could use a shield and an attack at the same time.Toichiro in the anime creates sonic booms at 50% so that where that comes from
In regards to the subsonic+ scaling at this point Base Mob is so far superior to Shimazaki (The one who performed the subsonic+ feat) that he runs the moment he senses his energy. I really feel Subsonic+ would be the best to use since we straight up have confirmation in-universe that Mob is superior
Base Mob once again is arguably weaker than 3% and definitely weaker than 4% so we can use that to scale up there speed
However I'm not opposed to using baseline subsonic if we have to
In regards to what percentages to scale Mob to I Believe 4% Toichiro is the best to scale above base Mob as Mob had given energy to Sho before getting demolished and the fact that Mob is shown as comparable to Serizawa even without being in 100% who was comparable to 3% Toichiro
100% Anger Mob should 100% scale to 20% Toichiro as it was stated multiple times that he was holding back his full power because of his friends.
You may point to 10% Toichiro hurting him but once again this was him focusing on lifting the building which means he wouldn't be able to use his full power to block. We know that espers when distracted or doing something else lessens there defensive power as Reigan was able to harm Shimazaki with his self defense rush despite him being a normal human
The "47th Division" scars were capable of harming Shimazaki and should scale. They were fodder for base Mob and the only reason Mob lost to Kayama in the first place was inexperience and brass knuckles.Why were all the 9-A keys removed? That seemed unnecessary: that power was between the beginning of the series up until the 7th division arc. After that, they got significantly stronger. It should stay the way it was, there would just be an extra key.
I would like to hear at least Plank69 and Celestial_Pegaus about the changes in the verse.I can call them but out of curiosity, how come? Is there something that needs to be sorted out?
Due to what? They parted and began to live a normal life. Their power level remained the same.Mob at his earliest was going out of his way to not fight and the feats he scales to are either effortless for him or him tanking such hits with barely a scratch. I'm fine with just having his Post-Seventh Division Arc as the base key.
That aside, don't the SCAR members canonically get stronger after that?
I think so too, wasn't one of the SCAR members said that they got stronger? the one that mob beat with 100% animosity? or i just misremembered it.That aside, don't the SCAR members canonically get stronger after that?
Yes. I made changes to the verse and profiles and put things in order in the "calculations" section. Previously, there were two calculations of the same feat.Have the changes already been made? Also, if they're not as strong then I guess they can scale. Though, if we're fine with anime feats then don't they have some from earlier?
They were only capable of harming Shimazaki after he’d been distracted and lost focus, which his durability decreases. Besides, we don’t know whether or not they haven’t been training since then. Even if they wanted to start living regular lives, they knew Claw would be targeting them, so that would give them incentive to train. So I still think there should be separate 9-A and High 8-C keys.The "47th Division" scars were capable of harming Shimazaki and should scale. They were fodder for base Mob and the only reason Mob lost to Kayama in the first place was inexperience and brass knuckles.
While your first point makes sense (honestly can't believe I forgot about that), the second is an assumption based on basically nothing at all. You'd have to prove they did, not just ask for proof that they didn't.They were only capable of harming Shimazaki after he’d been distracted and lost focus, which his durability decreases. Besides, we don’t know whether or not they haven’t been training since then. Even if they wanted to start living regular lives, they knew Claw would be targeting them, so that would give them incentive to train. So I still think there should be separate 9-A and High 8-C keys.
Thus, Shimazaki, Base Mob, Teruki and Ritsu should scale to 8-B, and Scar members should downscales to High 8-C+That'd upgrade Shimazaki to 8-B I think, since he's far superior to any Division Leaders. But the 8-C/High 8-C all scale to either Super 5 level espers or Teruki, who's explicitly stronger than before.
.....Ok but like why? Backscaling isn't arbitrarily to the upper bound of the lower tier. There still needs to grounds for that. Does he ever fight anyone on that level.In this case, it should be High 8-C+
Now it also has a High 8-C key, being downscales from Teruki.....Ok but like why? Backscaling isn't arbitrarily to the upper bound of the lower tier. There still needs to grounds for that. Does he ever fight anyone on that level.
Huh, that's fine then. What do you guys think?Now it also has a High 8-C key, being downscales from Teruki
What do you mean?Could you add a feat to the page and make changes to the profiles after that ?
Sorry for replying late, I find myself without Internet and just now I was able to connect.
I mean add the Dargo calculation to the verse page and make changes to the profiles
Teruki will be 8-B. The Ritsu should scale as High 8-C+ in this caseI suppose I'm fine with at most for Ritsu but nothing more since he's without a doubt not entirely on Teru's level at all so wither at most or just 8-C+
Thats fine to meTeruki will be 8-B. The Ritsu should scale as High 8-C+ in this case
He's far stronger than 100% Mob.What does "Dwarfs 100% in power" mean in the key "???"
Again, the value is above baseline 8-B so Ritsu should just be "At most 8-B."Teruki will be 8-B. The Ritsu should scale as High 8-C+ in this case
Ishiguro's skill is rated as High 8-C+, which is very close to the 8-B baselineHe's far stronger than 100% Mob.
Again, the value is above baseline 8-B so Ritsu should just be "At most 8-B."
Are you assuming the low-end of the calc?Ishiguro's skill is rated as High 8-C+, which is very close to the 8-B baseline
Ishiguro was the strongest of the 47th division. The Ritsu is hardly above this level
I misunderstood Dargo when he wrote about "safe", making the end with fragmentation. I am satisfied with both optionsAre you assuming the low-end of the calc?