Mob Psycho 100 upgrade

[NikHelton]

You can ask them to check, but I'm not sure if there is a need for this, given that I just corrected the volume error and used the same math

 

[Planck69]

Just post the calculation, and I'll have them check.

@CloverDragon03 @KLOL506

 

[NikHelton]

Suzuki releases all the energy

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[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[PhantomØ4]

I asked Damage about these type of calculations since it seemed very strange to me that they were accepted and this is what they said.

We can't just assume that everything within a radius of an explosion would be vaporized. Typically we got by actual visible destruction, or the explosion formula if not.

 

[NikHelton]

I asked Damage about these type of calculations since it seemed very strange to me that they were accepted and this is what they said.

The evaporation was rejected by the calc group. We go with pulv

 

[Planck69]

So, we adjust the tiers?

 

[PhantomØ4]

The evaporation was rejected by the calc group. We go with pulv

I pulverization or vaporization doesn’t really matter, what matters is the actual visible destruction part. Damage said that the explosion formula should be used when there is no visible destruction like here.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

So, we adjust the tiers?

If you could call some calc members to sort this out that would be appreciated

 

[Edutyn]

Little question.

Wouldn't LS be higher because of the percentage increase?

 

[Planck69]

It would. It already scales up linearly.

 

[Edutyn]

Hey, I just checked and Psycho Helmet's profile needs to be updated.

 

[Antvasima]

If you could call some calc members to sort this out that would be appreciated

What do you need them to do specifically?

 

[PhantomØ4]

What do you need them to do specifically?

There’s a potential problem with the Touchiro calc, not mathematically but like standard wise/conceptualization of how to calculate the feat.

I was the one who asked Damage for thoughts regarding calcs like that and they told me that they should not be done like that. I think they want input in the thread from calc members regarding such.

 

[NikHelton]

PsychoMaster evaluated two such calculations, this was also approved by other members of the calculation group.

And it makes sense, given that the explosion should also be dangerous for Mob regardless of the distance.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

What do you need them to do specifically?

The updated Toichiro calc instead of using a hemisphere now uses a Sphere because the current accepted Genos suicide attack assumes this and someone brought up that if were gonna assume the energy density to that depth anyway might as well use it for the other half as well

However Damage has replied and said that that's not how we do things so we now need to now which is the right way

Also if this is rejected then that mean that Genos's suicide attack needs to be halved

 

[Antvasima]

The updated Toichiro calc instead of using a hemisphere now uses a Sphere because the current accepted Genos suicide attack assumes this and someone brought up that if were gonna assume the energy density to that depth anyway might as well use it for the other half as well

However Damage has replied and said that that's not how we do things so we now need to now which is the right way

Also if this is rejected then that mean that Genos's suicide attack needs to be halved

Okay, and which calculation blogs are you referring to here? Can you link to them please?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Okay, and which calculation blogs are you referring to here? Can you link to them please?

This one

Personally, I believe that pulverization is supported enough, as psychic blasts of this nature have already shown at least pulverization capabilities, and this is an even stronger version. That said, I can understand Damage's concerns

 

[Antvasima]

If you could call some calc members to sort this out that would be appreciated

What do you need them to do specifically?

The updated Toichiro calc instead of using a hemisphere now uses a Sphere because the current accepted Genos suicide attack assumes this and someone brought up that if were gonna assume the energy density to that depth anyway might as well use it for the other half as well

However Damage has replied and said that that's not how we do things so we now need to now which is the right way

Also if this is rejected then that mean that Genos's suicide attack needs to be halved

Okay, and which calculation blogs are you referring to here? Can you link to them please?

This one

Personally, I believe that pulverization is supported enough, as psychic blasts of this nature have already shown at least pulverization capabilities, and this is an even stronger version. That said, I can understand Damage's concerns

@Jasonsith @Executor_N0 @Migue79 @Therefir @Psychomaster35

What do you think about this? Some help would be appreciated.

 

[Therefir]

@Jasonsith @Executor_N0 @Migue79 @Therefir @Psychomaster35

What do you think about this? Some help would be appreciated.

Whatever happened with Genos' calc is irrelevant to this thread, the explosion didn't create any spherical or hemispherical crater, so it should be calculated as an explosion, as simple as that.

We estimate things that happened, not things we think might happen based on past showings.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Whatever happened with Genos' calc is irrelevant to this thread, the explosion didn't create any spherical or hemispherical crater, so it should be calculated as an explosion, as simple as that.

We estimate things that happened, not things we think might happen based on past showings.

Well that's unfortunate

I went ahead and made a new calc doing it that way

Toichiro Releases all his Energy

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The result is 6-B+ which is now what all the top-tiers would scale to

 

[Planck69]

So, the new top tiers would be;

Shigeo Kageyama:

High 8-C | 6-C | 6-B, possibly High 6-A | At least 6-B, possibly High 6-A

Toichiro Suzuki:

Low 6-B to 6-B, possibly High 6-A | 6-B, possibly High 6-A | 6-B, possibly High 6-A

Keiji Mogami:

6-B, possibly High 6-A

 

[NikHelton]

ну это к сожалению

Я пошел дальше и сделал новый расчет, сделав это таким образом.

Toichiro Releases all his Energy

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Результат — 6-B+, до которого теперь масштабируются все топ-уровни.

You should use 3% instead of 4%

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

So, the new top tiers would be;

Shigeo Kageyama:

High 8-C | 6-C | 6-B, possibly High 6-A | At least 6-B, possibly High 6-A

Toichiro Suzuki:

Low 6-B to 6-B, possibly High 6-A | 6-B, possibly High 6-A | 6-B, possibly High 6-A

Keiji Mogami:

6-B, possibly High 6-A

Looks good except for Mob I think we should do this
Shigeo Kageyama:

High 8-C | 6-C | 6-B, higher with stronger 100% forms, possibly High 6-A | At least 6-B, possibly High 6-A

You should use 3% instead of 4%

I did
The 3% scaling is what was accepted

 

[Planck69]

I'll make the adjustments later today then.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

I'll make the adjustments later today then.

I appreciate your hard work soldier

 

[NikHelton]

I have an idea to make a Mob profile in the style of Luffy. I mean, we can give each emotion its own picture.

Also can anyone change the profile picture of Dimple and Psycho Helmet?
I already threw a picture for Dimple above.

 

[Planck69]

Done with the top tiers. If that's all then I can close the profile.

I have an idea to make a Mob profile in the style of Luffy. I mean, we can give each emotion its own picture.

Also can anyone change the profile picture of Dimple and Psycho Helmet?
I already threw a picture for Dimple above.

Images don't really need CRTs. We can discuss it on one of our pages or a discussion thread. But I'm OK with it.

Dimple's picture needs to be rendered yeah.

 

[Dalesean027]

Done with the top tiers. If that's all then I can close the profile.


Images don't really need CRTs. We can discuss it on one of our pages or a discussion thread. But I'm OK with it.

Dimple's picture needs to be rendered yeah.

Message me any images if you want I can do a render for them

 

[CloverDragon03]

The calc still needs to be added to the verse page and replace the previous High 6-A version that's there

 

[Planck69]

Done adding the calculation. Anyway, that's all of the changes made. I'll close the thread now. Anything not involving tiers can be addressed to one of the supporters pages.

@Dalesean027 @NikHelton

You two can sort out the images.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you to everybody who helped out here.