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I'm still in opposition of using the Mogami world feat because of reasons we've already discussedCan we use the interpretation "Is the full release of his psychic energy and should be able to do so. Finally destroyed Mogami World.
Suzuki talks about the huge gap between their strength despite being so powerful. One random attack was enough to charge Toichiro powerfully enough"
Or now we can use "possibly higher" instead of "possibly High 6-A"
Although the option with scaling "???" seems like the best idea
Mob matched Toichiro's 4% and was pushed back by his attack. Hitting Toichiro's 10% also caused him to bleedWait, isn't the feat 91 Pentagons? And isn't the weakest 100% Mob equal to 20% Toichiro?
If so then 100% Mob would just be plain High 6-A, wouldn't he? And why does his 100% key have a possibly higher? Only ???% scales to the feat.
I don't have a problem with the 10% scaling, it's just that Mob was clearly trying to protect everyone from Toichiro's attack, but eventually everyone flew away and could have died if they hadn't been caughtI'm okay with 100% Anger being equivalent to 10% Toichiro but the 4% aspect seems iffy. Just pushing someone back isn't exactly enough to scale in my opinion.
I'm in support for this there many times that a weaker character pushed back their stronger opponent and still not scaling. If he damaged 4% Toichiro i would've agreed as well.I'm okay with 100% Anger being equivalent to 10% Toichiro but the 4% aspect seems iffy. Just pushing someone back isn't exactly enough to scale in my opinion.
At least High 8-C | 6-C | High 6-A | At least High 6-A, possibly far higher (Exceeds himself many times during his battle with the Mogami and destroyed his world with just his presence. One accidental Mob attack was enough to give Suzuki some of his powers back)I'm okay with 100% Anger being equivalent to 10% Toichiro but the 4% aspect seems iffy. Just pushing someone back isn't exactly enough to scale in my opinion.
Yes. In this case, can I apply the changes?So have you reached any agreements/conclusions here?
I believe someone said something along these lines earlier in the thread is well so ik at least one other person saw that the sameI'm kinda iffy about using baseline Subsonic+ speed as a baseline in the calc because it seems a bit arbitrary as opposed to using baseline Subsonic due to being able to move FTE. And I'd like to discuss this in the thread first before making any comments in the calc blog
I am not against using subsonic, but two members of the calculation group agreed to subsonic+, it was accepted here and I have already made it into profiles...I'm kinda iffy about using baseline Subsonic+ speed as a baseline in the calc because it seems a bit arbitrary as opposed to using baseline Subsonic due to being able to move FTE. And I'd like to discuss this in the thread first before making any comments in the calc blog
This was based on the fact that the basic Mob is far superior to the Subsonic+ feat, which is on close to Supersonic. And also on the fact that he has already shown a movement speed of tens of mach earlier, and his base is scaled to mhsI'm kinda iffy about using baseline Subsonic+ speed as a baseline in the calc because it seems a bit arbitrary as opposed to using baseline Subsonic due to being able to move FTE. And I'd like to discuss this in the thread first before making any comments in the calc blog
I have made changes to the profile and the verse page. It remains to raise the members of the claw to High 8-C, as they are able to deal damage to Shimazaki, as well as increase the Psycho-Helmet. To be honest, I was tired while I was rewriting everythingFrom what I can gather, we've agreed to use the accepted High 6-A feat and linear backscaling from Toichiro's 100% power to scale the top tiers as such;
Shigeo Kageyama
High 8-C | 6-C | High 6-A | At least High 6-A, possibly higher
Since 100% Anger would also scale to High 6-A via being 10% of Toichiro's power, he'll be plain High 6-A in that key with a note of his power varying based on his emotions.
Other statistics seem to he accepted.
Could you call @Planck69, @Dalesean027, @Lugh_Tuathe_Dé, @Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, @Expectro2000xxx, @edutyn, @Palaeocene.epoch1, @It_is_i_wyatt, @Recon1511 for them to express their opinion, please?So have you reached any agreements/conclusions here?
I think there is nothing more to discuss and/or change.Could you call @Planck69, @Dalesean027, @Lugh_Tuathe_Dé, @Shmeatywerbenmanjenson, @Expectro2000xxx, @edutyn, @Palaeocene.epoch1, @It_is_i_wyatt, @Recon1511 for them to express their opinion, please?
Rest, you've already done a lot.I have made changes to the profile and the verse page. It remains to raise the members of the claw to High 8-C, as they are able to deal damage to Shimazaki, as well as increase the Psycho-Helmet. To be honest, I was tired while I was rewriting everything
Can you correct the lexical errors, if there are any? I used a translator, to be honest
Have you fixed everything yet?There are some small errors but otherwise it's ok.
This was based on the fact that the basic Mob is far superior to the Subsonic+ feat, which is on close to Supersonic. And also on the fact that he has already shown a movement speed of tens of mach earlier, and his base is scaled to mhs
Only one actually voiced agreement to Subsonic+, the other simply agreed with pulverizationI am not against using subsonic, but two members of the calculation group agreed to subsonic+, it was accepted here and I have already made it into profiles...
Not yet, it's horrible to do it over the phoneHave you fixed everything yet?
Only one actually voiced agreement to Subsonic+, the other simply agreed with pulverization
Subsonic and pulverization makes the most sense to me personally
Can you call this members, please?I think there is nothing more to discuss and/or change.
I'll also contact Psychomaster since he evaluated the calc.
@Psychomaster35 I know you accepted the Subsonic+ and pulverization end for this calc. I think Subsonic and pulverization should be used instead, so I wanted to get your input on it.
Yeah but I think baseline Subsonic should be used instead of baseline Subsonic+Already use pulverization.
Yeah and I feel that's a lot more arbitrary compared to using Subsonic speed for being able to move at faster-than-eye speedsSubsonic + was used since all other calculations are subsonic + and hypersonic
I think Subsonic+ is the most appropriate because it is based on existing calculations.Yeah and I feel that's a lot more arbitrary compared to using Subsonic speed for being able to move at faster-than-eye speeds
I don't think existing calculations are necessarily grounds for this, otherwise we'd just use said existing calculations... which we don't, because calc stackingI think Subsonic+ is the most appropriate because it is based on existing calculations.
Well these lowballed assumptions are unfortunately the best that can be done sometimes.Also Subsonic is incredibly low for some characters
OKI don't think existing calculations are necessarily grounds for this, otherwise we'd just use said existing calculations... which we don't, because calc stacking
Well these lowballed assumptions are unfortunately the best that can be done sometimes.
Let's wait for additional input, though
Can you call this members?I'll also contact Psychomaster since he evaluated the calc.
@Psychomaster35 I know you accepted the Subsonic+ and pulverization end for this calc. I think Subsonic and pulverization should be used instead, so I wanted to get your input on it.
Only member group can call other users
What are you think?I don't think existing calculations are necessarily grounds for this, otherwise we'd just use said existing calculations... which we don't, because calc stacking
Well these lowballed assumptions are unfortunately the best that can be done sometimes.
Let's wait for additional input, though