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Huh... 3-A SGGL let's gooo
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Minor (maybe more but not Major) Gurren Lagann (verse) revision
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I just realized, Dai-Gurren and Gurren Lagann went against Dekabutsu’s hammer, together. So, that would mean the force of Dekabutsu’s hammer would be cut in half for the AP of both Dai-Gurren and Gurren Lagann. So, 1.395 Teratons. Still Small Island level, but incredibly low into it
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I think you mean Country and not Island
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Lmao, yeah, Small Country level
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Just realized, the 3-B calc did not involve SGGL’s size at all, so I don’t think this one is changing. Although I noticed that there was a mention of the lower cap of the amount of portals that was shown in the anime, so this could change SGGL’s rating to At least 3-B, rather than straight up 3-B
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Believe it or not, we can bump it up into 3-A with slightly different method of calcing. Mega Maelstorm Vortex Cannon can hits immeasurable number of enemies at once, but how much? 10^68 at least.
Last two panels:
We just need to calc how much damage SGGL did to each Ashtanga then multiplied it to 10^68, then boom. And it's consistent, its inner power was compared to microcosm.
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| Dayakka: Cybela! What happened? Cybella: The enemies... Their number... Dayakka: How many!? Cybela: 10 to the power of...68. |
We just need to calc how much damage SGGL did to each Ashtanga then multiplied it to 10^68, then boom. And it's consistent, its inner power was compared to microcosm.
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That is spicy
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Wasn’t there a bunch of feats where they were attacking through all space and time? That’s pretty blatant immeasurable speed right there
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They were using portals to do so, it's more of a hax thing using context and stuff
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This definitely is not minor.
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What about the Troy Del Burst feat?
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I don't remember what Troy Del Burst is, but if you were refering to that ground-collapsing feat in episode 7, I can't say much, maybe around high-end Town to Large Town tier? We can get Small City if not City with this, and City with this, and how can we forget Enki melted a large portion of plateau?
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Great, so maybe the Ashtangas are something like 4-A
And that Enki Sun Attack is def 7-B
And that Enki Sun Attack is def 7-B
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Well, we can’t just make assumptions like that without any calcs. You can vaporize a building and be 8-B
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I don't remember the astanga being anything as powerful as 4-A. At best, I'm pretty sure they're only 5-A via sheer size and throwing planets smaller than the moon.
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They should be above the Death Spiral Machine and they also took a hit from the Mega Maelstorm Vortex Cannon
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Did they? I'm pretty sure they were annihialted by it. Could you send a scan. And I don't see why they should be above the death spiral mahine?
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I don't have an idea how strong are they either, at very least they are 5-A via sheer size, should be much higher via force field.
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Can we have a list of the things of what we need to recalc, so that I can get calc requests for them? Pls add a scan as well
@GreatIskandar14045 Would you mind moving your calcs to VSBW blogs?
@GreatIskandar14045 Would you mind moving your calcs to VSBW blogs?
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I don't see them getting hit by it
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Well, they didn't fully tank the artors, remember that they splitted into immeasurable numbers.
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Also one last thing, arc gurren Lagann fought cathedral lazengann in the TTGL movie right? Would arc gurren lagann scale in anyway? Does anyone have the full clip? I can't find a place to see the movie
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Wait, imma record it for you.
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Thx!
Nice to see my boi AGL get more respekt
Should Arc Gurren Lagann scale to SGGL? I feel like he should probably scale in LS, something like "At most Class Z", maybe 3-B+ with the giga drill break or something like that? As that was the attack that actually harmed chathedral lazengann.
Also on a sidenote: I feel like this scene kinda follows my thoughts on the GL movies being all style and no substance. Like yes, these new scenes are cool, but they kinda they ruin some stroy aspects, and this kinda makes the SGGL appearance later on more underwhelming, as it was harmed by a mecha that is supposedly much weaker.
Also anti gurren laggan has never appeared in any form of media has it?
Nice to see my boi AGL get more respekt
Should Arc Gurren Lagann scale to SGGL? I feel like he should probably scale in LS, something like "At most Class Z", maybe 3-B+ with the giga drill break or something like that? As that was the attack that actually harmed chathedral lazengann.
Also on a sidenote: I feel like this scene kinda follows my thoughts on the GL movies being all style and no substance. Like yes, these new scenes are cool, but they kinda they ruin some stroy aspects, and this kinda makes the SGGL appearance later on more underwhelming, as it was harmed by a mecha that is supposedly much weaker.
Also anti gurren laggan has never appeared in any form of media has it?
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No problem~
Well, I don't think Cathedral Lazengann by any means is = SGGL, it is very likely that its Spiral Power gets weaken by time and desparation like Lordgenome, who was a commander of the entire galactic fleet, turns into someone who gets drilled by a 14 years old shounen, his daughter's boyfriend, degrading rather than evolving. Also, Cathedral Lazengann looks a lot slower.
I'm iffy about the current used AGL calculation either, all links there are dead, so yeah we have to recalc it.
The physical strength of Cathedral Lazengann is 5-B at least, via that moon-pulling feat (the calc), so if we gonna scale AGL's Giga Drill Break(er) so maybe that works, 3-B+ Giga Drill Breaker just doesn't work to me, AGL also used the same attack against the Ashtanga but ain't even breaking through its force field protection.
Also, if this info is useful, AGL is 5 km tall at least, it can't be shorter than Arc Gurren.
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| "Arc Gurren [Mecha/Episode 19] Super Space Guard Daigunmen. A gunmen of the same kind as Dekabutsu sleeping in the basement of Teppelin. At the time of the war, it came down to the ground along with the big things. It is about to leave with about 180,000 inhabitants of Kamina City to leave the Earth with the approaching Moon. The total length is around 5km." |
Well, if Cathedral Terra is weaker than SGGL, then I don't think they ruin anything imo.
I can't find it anywhere, as per my knowledge it only appeared in Super Robot Wars or something like that.
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Maybe something like: "Unknown, likely 3-B" for CL or maybe a "Likely far higher" for arc gurren lagann?
Also this is kinda derailing from the main point of the CRT, should I just PM you about this to discuss further?
Also we should summarise the main points of the CRT.
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Yeah that works.
I can't remember anything here though lmfao, I only proposed Time Travel attack addition for Simon and his crews... The main thing is, all calcs needs to be revised, and Bluudy knows better about the chain scaling than me, so let's wait for him to step in (this scan).
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So what is left to do here? Only adding the time thing? I guess just bring in a mod to give the thumbs up
We derailed way too much lmao
We derailed way too much lmao
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Time thing and a bit chain scaling which Bluudy knows better, I'll tag Qawsedf here.
Hell yeah lol.
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I wanna say that's Multiversal range with temporal omnipresence.
But Immeasurable with that thing is fine. The mechas themselves are not Immeasurable or infinite though.
But Immeasurable with that thing is fine. The mechas themselves are not Immeasurable or infinite though.
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The attack itself isn’t transcendent of time by nature, so I think it’ll just stay as Space-Time Manipulation or Time Travel Attack
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Its Space-Time Manipulation with multiversal range with that reasoning then.
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So Time Travel attack via Spiral Power is fine, hmm?
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Well, there’s no such thing as time travel attack, I mean there is, but according to the wiki that’s just Multiversal range. PML Simon and everyone who scales above him have Multiversal+ range on an 11-D level, or high-end High Complex Multiversal range. And Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann will have Multiversal range
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Well, then something like temporal range is needed to be specified in their profiles, given the range isn't conventional.
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Planetary, Interplanetary via Super Galaxy Mega Cutter, Multiversal via Mega Vortex Maelstrom Cannon.
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