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So, If the light suit is also meant to store light energy and use it continuously to keep away darkness, and was created by the energy regulating controllers that can recycle energy, it would make sense if the suit also recycled light energy to keep up the protection effect indefinitely.
Except Samus isn’t shooting enemies with pure concentrated light of Aether energy, it’s just missiles and light/dark beam shots. Plus, even if the suit was draining energy, Samus wouldn’t be wasting it permanently for reasons I said.Except, it'd be amping Samus' AP too if it amped her durability because it'd cross scale between shit and circle back.
And no, that isn't how Samus' suits work, at all, they expend energy.
Samus can shoot into the storm all day with the light beam and nothing happens, prove they get messed up by it.Completely ignoring the fact that everything on Dark Aether takes increased damage from the light beam.
We're talking about microscopic entities, of course they get messed up by it.
And the elements on Dark Aether are primarily poisonous because of Phazon, and Phazon is a sentient being of its own (Meteor Strike lore) that tries to damage beings and has its own power level, Samus is overcoming that.And no, Samus doesn't "completely overpower anything Dark Aether attempts to throw at her", that is simply not even true? She just becomes immune to the adverse elements, a hax/res thing, not dura.
Making note of it says nothing about the timeframe, if you’re weakened in a fight it lasts about 10 seconds before you recognize it.Wasn't my point, my point was between when they used it, and when we know it came back, there was a HUGE amount of time.
And, we know it wasn't instant, given it destabilized the planet to where they made note of it.
Okay, Samus “gathers” energy from the environment all game as well.And you think it can refill naturally in literal minutes, or going by stuff below, mere seconds? Dude, prove this.
Ya missed the "gather" part of that lad.
Because of the regeneration to the energy provided by the controllers, the LoA is also effectively infinite in its recyclability, so at that point she can use it as much as needed to get the job done. And there are probably other series where this works too, like how Grand Stars in Mario keep the same power level despite being constantly used for energy to power Bowser’s reactors.Statement?
The actual worst examples you could have used.
17 and 18 have INFINITE energy, hence they can draw on it without limit, inveresely, can't use it all at once.
If you're comparing LoA/EM to them, you've ****** up, because that'd be a case where Samus is merely tapping into a power source, using only negligible bits of it, except it isn't infinite and can and will run out.
Also DBZ, hell that ain't even Nintendo.
It only regenerates to a finite amount, the amount under control of the light or dark half of the planet. That’s why they need to re-establish control over it.Yeah, I'm sure there is, but hey it regenerates within minutes according to you so why care?
Your argument, not stated mind you, is demonstrably not the case.
Yes, and then she gets it back by absorbing it from parts of the environment.You mean the ammo that has a ammo limit that she expends with every light/dark attack?
Bruh...
If you look at the early years Luminoth lore they directly spell out the process of energy into the planet -> planet sustained -> regenerate energy, repeat.Dude, statement, end of, we can go back and forth all day, hell I could argue this shit isn't even calcable, but **** it, statement given you're evidently going to repeat the same stuff.
Eight minutes is barely any time, if you wanna say that the feat gets divided by 480 to account for J/s then by all means.8 minutes? That's even worse, and yes, that's exactly my point, it took EIGHT MINUTES for DA to collapse with 0 Energy.
Samus is in another dimension when it happens, we have no idea if it kills her or not because whether it kills her is irrelevant. She wouldn’t be able to get back to the light dimension and would just be in limbo forever.You realize that's an issue right? That tells us the energy wasn't doing mass conversation stuff, it was simply sustaining it, and the dimensional collapse, is its own thing, that literally nobody even scales to given it KILLS Samus, and DS regen'd from particles.
The act of sustaining and the act of creating mass from the energy are one and the same, given that restoring the energy to Aether fully immediately recreates the rest of the planet on an atomic level, and without any energy to convert to mass to sustain Dark Aether, it reaches a point where there is no mass and the planet doesn’t exist (not just, in pieces, it ceases to exist)The literal only thing you can even attempt to argue as EMC, that being the collapse, doesn't scale, but rather the actual act of sustaining it so it doesn't chain reaction and die is what scales and I don't think I need to explain why that takes an exponentially ludicrous less amount of energy.
Well if Samus is hypothetically scaled to Leviathan durability in the future, she would upscale the potency of the LoA in Prime 3 anyway because the Leviathan no-sold that.My point was, even if the suit had better durability, it can be simply due to being better armor, not "oh it's actually using the whole of LoA to amp its durability directly 1:1 with it". You take the extreme high ends constantly based on nothing but conjecture, stop please.
Except they spend the energy all the time? That’s, the whole point of the LoA? And yes, it’s conjecture, but it’s conjecture based on multiple pieces of provable evidence, explain why U-Mos would hold back power to give to Samus when he’s trying to stop an incredibly powerful evil force that has control over the same amount of Aether power that the light side has, AND can use it to amp himself.Contextually he doesn't want ANY of it spent dude.
And case and point, you're assuming this, based on the premise she is amped by, she's using it constantly, she regenerates the energy she expends, and she's expending the highest amount always.
This, is headcanon you made up, no proof, no evidence. Stop it. Post statement and scans dude.
Yes he uses it, he evolved midway through the fight into a stronger mutated form that swaps between light and darkness power, and he directly shoots Samus with lasers from his eye (the same eye that is actually just a red orb, the same red orb that we see his version of the Light of Aether as just a few moments earlier if you watch the boss battle, and an orb that gets notably smaller in the final phase showing it was siphoned off of heavily ). So he is actively using energy from the LoA as a beam to eliminate Samus, multiple times.So? Does he use it all? No. Does he use enough to make a dent in it? No. Then they don't scale.
Hell the fact he gets stronger based on what little he does use, isn't a very good indicator btw.
That’s literally not true, otherwise the planet would have died off years ago. We know that there was an energy crisis, and after building the energy controllers, there was no longer a crisis even though the same energy amount was required. The only logical explanation is the energy regenerating.No, it can't, this is headcanon. We know, because they say as much, that when used it's gone. You think they used LoA, had next to nothing, then 2 seconds later it came back because that's like the gap between some of Ing's attacks so same timeframe ig?
No, I'm not even going to humor this.
Which would mean that Samus is keeping roughly the same amount of LoA in her suit at all times, the same amount that can match the beams fired directly from half the light of Aether.Which would mean they dont scale to it.
And? Still doesn’t change how the health packs restores the same amount no matter how durable the suit is.Dog that's like, actual gameplay mechanics wtf
This is assuming the LoA is even being expended or that Samus would need to restore it, because she doesn’t, and can restore it to full by just going back and returning the energy to the controller.Yes, refill it, assuming she even can mind you because they don't state this at all and she obviously isn't doing it with known aspects of what the LoA is but for argument's sake, a puny ass geemer energy ball or limited ammunition, is not going to replenish any notable fraction of the LoA, I'm baffled this is even being argued.
Even though that directly explains why the energy is going away or how the planet’s mass is kept in existence in a 1-1 ratio of energy loss-matter creation.Yes, doesn't matter.
That’s just how the planet works, the energy keeps the planet alive, and without the energy the planet will dissipate to nothing.Post this.
Light Beam< Light Suit in dealing with Dark Aether anomalies, this is a fact.This isn't even actually true.
Yes, and to get it back U-Mos gives Samus a suit made of concentrated Light of Aether lightThe context is "hey we need this shit, please get it back or we're ******", and then she gets it back and hands it over as is without all this made up shit you're talking about.
I never said 1 second, I said it can regenerate, and that’s enough for Samus to just keep trying by putting the energy back in the controller to recharge, since she can already beat normal Ing.yeah via prep time, a big giga weapon, and that very fact left the planet weakened because the LoA was used up in part and didn't regen in like 1 second like you think it somehow can.
So then the Light Suit is also made of better material than normal suits, being the light of Aether. Samus even demonstrated in the next game that she can beat the source of some great power even when holding a tiny fraction of it, by defeating Dark Samus amped by an entire origin planet of Phazon (log entry says she fused with AU that was symbiotically linked to the planet) despite only having a minuscule amount of Phazon herself. So even if Samus did only have a fraction of the LoA that was barely notable, her taking on the Emperor Ing utilizing a full half of the Light makes sense from a story perspective.Lad, ya know the other suit is more durable just because it's made of like, better alloys and shit right? Energy tanks is unrelated to that, you kinda of conflating game mechanics with lore here.
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