Having mid godly regen doesn’t change the plot of prime 3 at all.
Im saying Prime 3 has a bunch of extra info?
So even when I agree with you it’s still a problem somehow, okay.
Dont waste time.
Could have is not did.
, but the fact she was stuck in that dimension while it was erased alongside the Ing (who did completely get annihilated),
Who said it was? It collapsed?
along with Dark Samus’ regen profession from Prime 1 to 2,
With statements and explanations given. You can't assume literal multiple infinite bounds past that just because. Hell she even has a anti-statement.
showcases low-godly can also work, given she regenerated after being inside an erased dimension.
Dude, the feat is like 8-C maybe due to ISL. We see that her particles still existed, we're told her particles reformed. You're adding in a whole extra bit of wank there. Due to a dimensional collapse, that is like 5-B at best, assuming she took it all (she didnt).
How is it all my fault if you don’t really source anything either.
Huh? Everything I've noted has been linked, at some point, in this thread?
Do I really need to link the final boss death every other sentence or something? No. I don't.
You on the other hand, are quite frankly just making stuff up, I've asked and given you a chance to post a statement a dozen times, that's on you.
The burden of proof here, is on you to prove all these claims man.
It was inside a module though, the entire thing was an energy controller the emperor wrapped his mouth around, that’s what the log entry says.
Yeah and then he died and Samus just kinda sucked it up.
Funny you mention that though, the scan literally also says him draining it is a continuous process, aka, he ain't using it all at
once.
Stop making stuff up.
Literally how would the places begin decaying if the light was no longer under the control of the dark world.
Because according to you Samus has it? If they don't have it, they'd stay ****** up, it doesn't matter who has it.
And we know because we see as such.
Now that it’s in the controllers, the energy is regulated and everything can be distributed properly.
Exactly, meaning she doesn't have it.
They don’t even have the full amount of light energy, and yet it still calls the receptacles at “full power”,
It doesn't, it says near yes? If I'm misremembering, then goddamn, she might not even have a small amount. That's BAD for your argument.
that alone showcases that ifs not about the amount of light of Aether.
The literal plot of the game.
Since when do they say it was due to diminished resources? Almost all of the Luminoth deaths are attributed to Ing attacks.
Dog, cataclysms, at least one even starved.
And there, again, "
almost all".
They were still in a survivable state though, the planet wasn’t going to disappear into oblivion in 5 minutes, they had the necessary planetary energy to continue existence.
They WEREN'T. Even the space pirates say the planet is gonna be gone soon. They were doomed. They LITERALLY didn't have enough to continue existence, the planet was failing.
The Light Suit objectively cannot be obtained canonically without first restoring the planetary energy of Aether to at least half. Not a portion of half, not “beginning of game” levels of energy, but specifically in the endgame. The way the light suit cutscene is framed is that the suit is unable to be collected without first acquiring enough planetary energy to energize it.
Dude, none of that matters. We know it didn't have it all, we know it isn't the majority. The game disagrees with you. You can make up whatever you want to go "see it makes sense!", it doesn't matter if we're flatout told the opposite. It isn't even the game being inconsistent, they just straight up don't do what you're saying they do.
You keep saying that even though the energy in the controllers can regenerate energy to a degree
They can't, you made this up, post a statement. It's made abundantly clear that shit can't, gathering more over time ISN'T regenerating.
and we know that “full power” doesn’t refer to amount of light energy.
It does when we know it has to be enough to sustain and route energy to all 3 regions, which it is quite literally doing, and as we know the amount he had prior, wasn't enough to do even 1 other region. Well, do I need to elaborate further?
No, because if Samus was only getting a tiny boost from the light of Aether, again, there is literally zero reason U-Mos couldn’t just give Samus the suit at the start.
I can think of several, like the fact why the hell would he want to give any at all?
The suit was inside the main energy controller all along, and it would literally only be a benefit to do so.
"We needed stronger weapons, better armor. We withdrew from Dark Aether while our greatest minds devised new engines of war."
" The Energy Transfer Module, a device designed to recover our lost planetary energy, was ready at last. A force of our greatest warriors was assembled, each equipped with the best armor and weaponry available. We sent this brave cadre of fighters to invade the Sky Temple and seize the missing energy lying within."
"That last hit breached my armor. The poison spreads. "
The Luminoth invented armor immune to Dark Aether's toxic effects, damn why didn't U-Mos give Samus this right away too? Even worse if this stuff is just Light Suit expies (only armor in game actually immune to DA). Were they all using LoA too?
Who knows, who gives a shit. Point is we know she didn't have it all, end of.
U-Mos recognizes Samus as a capable warrior and she has the energy transfer module that is the ONE thing that can save the planet, and he knows that he can’t use the module due to not having the capacity to reclaim the energy,
Damn sucks that Samus and Ing use it all even tho all he wants is it back.
so Samus is the only chance. Not giving the LS to her at the earliest opportunity is stupid on his part.
Why didn't he give her all the weapon upgrades, DA immune suits and more right away too?
You're trying to justify shit, we know simply isn't true. It doesn't matter what you think does, or doesn't make sense, it is how it is.
Energy recharges over time by absorbing from the environment,
Which she doesn't do, Ing doesn't do, and isn't an instant process (How the **** are they getting 5-B energy back every few seconds from draining like tier 6 and 7 stuff at best?)
this process has been going for 50 years and is why the planet is still livable despite starting from a position of low energy and having it continuously stolen, etc.
FIFTY YEARS. Is not a few seconds.
It does not say almost in the scan of the main controller post-Light suit, it says “running at full power”. Now you’re twisting the words.
Are we even talking about the same scan? But hey, that's even worse, you're flflat-outrong then. The Temple Module was peak condition. She has like none of it then.
She can literally replenish it by putting it back in the energy controller, that’s the controller’s job.
No, the controller's job is to regulate it, and give it to places where it needs to go.
"Our greatest minds devised a way to preserve and regulate the remaining planetary energy - the Energy Controllers."
"The main Energy Controller was built in the Great Temple: three sub-controllers were built in the temples of Torvus, Agon, and Sancuary. They collected the energy of Aether, then radiated it over the world to all who needed it. In time we came to call this precious energy the "Light of Aether." It brought an age of peace and prosperity to the Luminoth."
"Nothing worked. Our efforts placed a great strain on the Energy Controllers, and weakened Aether. "
Where does it say it's job is to do that?
Everything it says, the game shows us, like the radiated part, if ya scan it at the end game tells ya that, hell that's how ya can fast travel even. They don't state or show what you claim it can do. And the worst part is, you're only arguing this, to justify something else they never actually state or show. It's a chain of conjecture, some of which is provably wrong.
Same with Emperor Ing, he’s sitting on an energy controller.
Which it can't do. I told you to post a scan.
I’ll admit though, it does feel like scaling to the LoA is sort of pointless since it’s 5-B max anyway. There might be another way to get star level but I’ll save that for another time.
Do not reply, unless you can post an actual statement saying it's constantly regenerating, and does so in huge batches to where they can expend it without issue and it instantly comes back.
Even tho
"In time the roar of a wounded planet subsided. The air, though foul, was breathable. Light made its way through the dark veil over our world. Slowly, we ventured out from the shelters of our homes to see what remained of our paradise. What little comfort we gained by surviving was soon shattered, for when we looked outward, all we saw was devastation. Half of the planet's energy had vanished from the Energy Controllers. Aether became violently unstable as a result."
(Aka it literally can't regenerate it, even just half being gone caused the planet to become unstable, if the energy controllers, in your very argument, can instantly regenerate major fractions of energy instantly, why in the actual hell do they care? This is also a case of a huge length of time, we know on impact DA was made and the energy was shifted.
Yet in that whole time, where they were hiding and taking shelter, till when they emerged, the Energy Controller hadn't regenerated it?
"They discovered that this world held the missing half of our planet's energy. "
Sometime later, they still talk as if they're only at half capacity.
"We developed Crystals that brought the Light of Aether to the dark world. Using these Crystals allowed our warriors to explore the enemy lands, to bring war to the Ing. Sadly, the Crystals were not enough. We needed stronger weapons, better armor. We withdrew from Dark Aether while our greatest minds devised new engines of war."
This is damning. Those tiny wee lil crystals ya find throughout DA where ya heal, can be protected and aren't harmed by the environment?
Also contains LoA.
Do they all use the whole ass thing at once? For the like, idk, 200 crystals ya find throughout? **** no, they just use a tiny lil infinitesimal fraction of it, enough to protect from Dark Aether, rendering it safe.
Gee, that's almost exactly like what the Light Suit is stated to do, and is shown to do.
" We decided to build a device to recover our lost planetary energy from Dark Aether. Without this energy, the dark world would cease to be, and our world would be restored to stability."
Them saying the thing just like, moves stuff, not regens it.
"The Energy Transfer Module, a device designed to recover our lost planetary energy, was ready at last. "
Them stating again what it does, simply collect it and bring it back. Mind you, there's been a war, why hasn't it regenerated yet if it can quickly?
"Our studies of the Ing revealed their attacks as dark energy. We built weapons to use this energy, thinking it could overload enemy targets and eliminate them. We soon learned our error, as the Dark Beam was not of great effect on the Ing. We then began to develop a weapon that used light energy. This weapon would dispatch the Ing with terrible efficiency."
"None of the warriors sent to the Sky Temple returned. Our forces searched Dark Aether for them, in vain. Of the Energy Transfer Module, there was no sign. Though saddened, we set out to prepare another mission, to build another module, to try once more to save our dying world.
Why do they need it? Why is the world dying? Why isn't it regenerating? It's been ages since simply half was gone, why ain't it coming back quick enough to where the planet dying is a nonissue?
"Our blood chilled when we learned that the energy within that temple was drained. The Ing had found the Energy Transfer Module, and were using it as a weapon against us."
Why? It'd just regen? They don't need it? As long as they have a tiny bit it'll come back?
"The Ing turned their focus on the Torvus Bog next, sending a vast force to lay siege to the temple there. Thousands upon thousands of Ing were destroyed by our warriors, yet they kept coming until there was no Luminoth alive to offer resistance in Torvus. On that day, the energy of Torvus was taken to Dark Aether, and our hopes for survival grew dim."
They lost more and began to think they were doomed? Why? They still have the main hub and Sanctuary? That's over 25%?
"Our battered forces gathered in the Sanctuary Fortress to prepare for the inevitable siege there. They didn't wait long. Wave after wave of Ing assaulted the greatest of our fortresses, with one goal in mind: to seize the energy there. The Ing turned the machines of Sanctuary against our warriors, and soon all was lost. The energy of Sanctuary was taken by the Ing. Only one Energy Controller remained on Aether.
"What few remained gathered in the Great Temple. There, all but U-Mos, the last Sentinel of Aether, entered into life-preserving stasis. There they would remain, to be released once the Ing were destroyed... or to sleep forever. His people safe, U-Mos prepared for the last, terrible assault. In the silence of the Great Temple, he prayed for salvation, for deliverance from the terror of the Ing."
Literally praying to god.
You're telling me, the energy modules can regenerate huge swarms of energy in moments, yet everything tells us it can't do that.
We also know they use disgustingly small amounts for protection, whether it be light crystals or armor.
And yet you think Samus was empowered the whole of it, and was using it constantly and it just regenerated in mere seconds? Stuff never even stated? While also telling and showing us the Light she gathered was being used and routed across the planet with the main hub being at peak and very clearly still filled with energy she gathered, which we see, a fact we know isn't possible without having gathered each chunk of energy (Ie, a minority of the energy isn't sufficient to route to the other regions).
