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Medaka vs Hiiragi

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>Passive envy will activate as soon as he sees her not before seeing her, it's impossible to hate what u don't know.

Funny enough because he does just that
 
ALRF said:
>Passive envy will activate as soon as he sees her not before seeing her, it's impossible to hate what u don't know.
Funny enough because he does just that
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No. Again he doesn't hate what his brain doesn't know. Hate and envy are all done by the brain, which won't be able to work in time before getting BM'd. So...no.
 
Clockwork Cookies said:
Ehhhh...i remember she won because something like "maybe your heart isnt really that weak, Kumagawa-senpai"
Forr your "the rest will get sealed" it will gonna be depend, if those power was showed above the league of Medaka Box's abnormality then they will be accepted á being sealed. But in this case...looking at Hiiragi's profile, i dont think so
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That wasn't the problem xD. Zenkichi got fodderized from the sudden drop in power, Medaka is even stronger than Zenkichi, having her power drop to Kumagawa would trash her, but he u can't overpower plot in Medaka Box, no matter how strong u are. That's the deal of the show.

Uhm...styles, minuses (which go beyond universal as accepted by the wiki) and abnormalities such as The End (which is basically everything stronger), were trashed. Kyudan ain't escaping.
 
Clockwork Cookies said:
Gotta ask out of củiosity, how did the protagonist managed to beat Hiiragi ? His power seem broken as hell
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"-Inuzuka Shino Moritaka: Yoshiya's third Hadan. It deals with severing emotional illness, mental effects, and corruption from oneself and others. This ability is what also allows Yoshiya to sever Forced Cooperation between himself and the user, as he was able to sever the ability of his father Seijuurou from himself."

Basically, his son managed to make a counter ability to the whole Forced Cooperation thing

And then after that, Akira healed Hiiragi Seijuurou. But suffered severe consequences to his body (He desired badly to be healed so that backfired on him). He died and had his whole body destroyed. But he came resurrected himself back and got his body back (low-godly regen) and went on his life
 
ALRF said:
"-Inuzuka Shino Moritaka: Yoshiya's third Hadan. It deals with severing emotional illness, mental effects, and corruption from oneself and others. This ability is what also allows Yoshiya to sever Forced Cooperation between himself and the user, as he was able to sever the ability of his father Seijuurou from himself."

Basically, his son managed to make a counter ability to the whole Forced Cooperation thing
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^^^

PIS at it's finest xD.
 
>(which go beyond universal as accepted by the wiki)

Never was accepted in our wiki. Dunno why you are bringing it up? Unless there is a CRT then please show me it.
 
@ALRF

I alway get amazed on how insane is Masada's creativity on creating the mind blowing haxes like these... Gotta catch up you guy in japanese to read Senshinkan.
 
Clockwork Cookies said:
Abnomality, style and minuses are accepted as universal ? May i see the thread ?
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(Her Pioneer Flag power is a "Create Universe Skill", though the size of this universe or the details of its creation are not clear)

(It was stated that his lack of full control over his powers could wind up with him erasing all of existence. Also, combining it with Book Maker Managed to seal Najimi, but according to Kumagawa, he was only as successful as he was because she herself wanted to be held; he sealed an exact copy of Ajimu with little difficulty so it is unclear to what extent his success relied on her consent)

Likely universal with All Fiction.

All are from the profiles.

Main point. 3-A Tier gets 1 shotted if it doesn't have resistances. A thread sometime ago. "Only dimensions are able to stop hax unless resistance is involved"

So untill resistance to type 2 sealing and power null is accepted for Kyudan, it gets 1 shotted even if it's many tiers above Bookmaker.
 
Clockwork Cookies said:
@ALRF

I alway get amazed on how insane is Masada's creativity on creating the mind blowing haxes like these... Gotta catch up you guy in japanese to read Senshinkan.
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That's Masada shenanigans for you ovo.

And now we have a mobile game incoming and new stuff for Dies Irae in the Switch (Yeah...dunno why but it is)

And wait until you see Dan Karuma
 
"Erased the concept of color"

No statement about that. The only thing said about that is "Did you undo the existence of colors, Kumagawa-kun?", which do not say anything about concepts.
 
Question

Can Medaka affect metaphysical/fictional beings such as dreams?
 
If she can't, theres no way she will be able to affect Hiiragi. Also, Bookmaker is lolnoped by 2-B will.
 
SchroKatze said:
If she can't, theres no way she will be able to affect Hiiragi. Also, Bookmaker is lolnoped by 2-B will.
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1. Is 2-B will resistant to type 2 seal and null?

2. Will escapes, his skills don't escape doe. Having higher will doesn't somehow magically save your skills aswell. It just means she's not gonna close the deal with Bookmaker but will add a simple all fiction at the end.
 
When his will is enough to resist Amakasu spiritual and mind crush, resist all the diseases and etc, it will nope the hell out of Bookmaker.
 
SchroKatze said:
When his will is enough to resist Amakasu spiritual and mind crush, resist all the diseases and etc, it will nope the hell out of Bookmaker.
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Oh ok nice. It will resist.

Abilities still get lolnoped. He loses everything except his will and gets toyed around by Medaka for the rest of eternity.
 
Because if she can't affect metaphysical/fictional beings such as dreams, she will just pass by Seiji body.

Meanwhile he can interact with the material/reality world
 
ALRF said:
Because if she can't affect metaphysical/fictional beings such as dreams, she will just pass by Seiji body.
Meanwhile he can interact with the material/reality world
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Im sorry but i fail to get this. Is his body intangble or something like that?
 
ALRF said:
Non-corporeal
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Oh it's easy.

1. All Fiction shots either way. Be it on him or his powers, it's a win either way.

2. Bookmaker still shots. It worked on Ajimu without her consent and she has accepted non corporeality as well as existing in multiple people at once (the ajimu we see is not the true ajimu, just 1 of the ajimu's). So yeah it works on Non-Corporeality.
 
Ajimu exicitly let Book Maker work on her, and she was on a physical body at the time.

Hiiragi's non-corporeality comes from the fact he isn't even on reality to begin with. He is just a dream, and dreams are something outside reality in Senshinkan. All Fiction can't erase something thats not even there to begin with, and Book Maker can't do shit.
 
SchroKatze said:
Ajimu exicitly let Book Maker work on her, and she was on a physical body at the time.
Hiiragi's non-corporeality comes from the fact he isn't even on reality to begin with. He is just a dream, and dreams are something outside reality in Senshinkan. All Fiction can't erase something thats not even there to begin with, and Book Maker can't do shit.
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No, ajimu let herself get bookmakered, though it sealed her even though she is not the true ajimu. And im not talking about that, but about the bloodlusted Ajimu doppleganger who was stalemating he actual Ajimu. So yeah, non corporeal gal got 1 shotted.

And verse equalization. Skills are usable in dreams in Medaka Box so All Fiction 1 shot. Also being outside of reality doesn't make you safe from All Fiction, a perfect All Fiction can affect non existant things bringing them back into reality. Dreams aren't a big deal.

On a side note...the profile says he's nothing more than a dream....All Fiction shots.
 
>So untill resistance to type 2 sealing and power null is accepted for Kyudan, it gets 1 shotted even if it's many tiers above Bookmaker.'

Actually we don't that. Unless she has shown the ability to affect tier 2 / tier 1 characters, we don't assume she can
 
ALRF said:
>So untill resistance to type 2 sealing and power null is accepted for Kyudan, it gets 1 shotted even if it's many tiers above Bookmaker.'
Actually we don't that. Unless she has shown the ability to affect tier 2 / tier 1 characters, we don't assume she can
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He's not tier 2.

And in a previous thread it was said.

Hax has no tier. Unless resistance is involved the only thing capable of stoping hax is higher dimensionality (provided the hax can't affect higher dimensions)

So yeah, you need resistance not tier.
 
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