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The real cal howard said:
Law+Concept+Fate+Probability overrides hero plot.
Ajimu couldn't, stomp that hero even though she has all those on a level far beyond BB. She couldn't even make a dent in The Hero. She even made Medaka fodder and STILL gets stomped.
 
The Wright Way said:
It comes from Earth. It doesn't work on a level that BB can't touch. It'll be bypassed.
It worked on a level Ajimu couldn't touch. A being who can deal with most things u can think of with less than 1/1'000'000'000'000 of her power, MUCH less than that.
 
The real cal howard said:
...didn't Ajimu lose to Yukari on the OBD? ovo
If the wiki hadn't disregarded ajimu's powers we'd be talking about her. A being who crosses dimensions and just creates universes at will ain't getting stomped by Yukari.
 
The real cal howard said:
...didn't Ajimu lose to Yukari on the OBD? ovo
Did she really? If she did then that's another Medaka Box character that gets stomped here.


Anyway, this is more of a "which instant ability will one-shot Medaka". You have Authority, which passively negates stuff. Not even Gilgamesh could bypass it without Power of the Beginning, and he ***** on the Moon Cell on a beautiful sunday morning. Then you have Law Manipulation, which is BB controlling the rules of the Moon Cell and slamming them in your face. Then there's all the Fate manipulation, space-time manipulation etc. Then there is Cursed Cutting Crater, which is conceptual manipulation, existence erasure and like four more abilities. Gilgamesh can't survive this and, as mentioned before, he ***** on the Moon Cell.

The only way Medaka is winning this is if she summons Gilgamesh to kill BB.
 
Anyway this is getting pretty off topic. The Hero stomped a universal+ reality warper who is immune to every power in the verse (with the exception of bookmaker) AND has literally 13 quadrillion different hax. All this vs Meaka without ANY hax would be a stomp due to The Hero.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Anyway this is getting pretty off topic. The Hero stomped a universal+ reality warper who is immune to every power in the verse (with the exception of bookmaker) AND has literally 13 quadrillion different hax. All this vs Meaka without ANY hax would be a stomp due to The Hero.
Lihiko Say hi
 
DodoNova2 said:
Lihiko Say hi
Yeah, my point, though Iihiko does have some decent abilities besides The Hero. Medaka would literally have to punch an immortal being to win, though The Hero would make that possible. The Hero is being overlooked QUITE a bit here.

PS: It's "Iihiko", u tend to mess up names quite a bit. xD
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Anyway this is getting pretty off topic. The Hero stomped a universal+ reality warper who is immune to every power in the verse (with the exception of bookmaker) AND has literally 13 quadrillion different hax. All this vs Meaka without ANY hax would be a stomp due to The Hero.
I'm going to say this really slowly so you understand. No. One. In. Medaka's. Box. Even. Touches. Tier. Two. We've been over this.

The Hero is nowhere near as powerful as you are hyping it up to be. Medaka can't defend herslef from things that she's never shown the ability too. She can't defend from passive power null that counters everything she can do. She lives on earth? Has no way past causalty manipulation on BB's scale? If the answer to both of these is yes then she can't win. Now stop putting Medake up against people she has no chance against. Continue acting like you are and you'll be banned.
 
The Wright Way said:
I'm going to say this really slowly so you understand. No. One. In. Medaka's. Box. Even. Touches. Tier. Two. We've been over this.

The Hero is nowhere near as powerful as you are hyping it up to be. Medaka can't defend herslef from things that she's never shown the ability too. She can't defend from passive power null that counters everything she can do. She lives on earth? Has no way past causalty manipulation on BB's scale? If the answer to both of these is yes then she can't win. Now stop putting Medake up against people she has no chance against. Continue acting like you are and you'll be banned.
She will get power nulled, not a problem. She doesn't need them when with something like The Hero on her side. And again Ajimu can't even be considered BB's enemy. What bb has authority over the earth? Ajimu has "make all of creation sit down". BB can null powers? Ajimu has that with the adition of being immune to most powers. BB has conceptual, fate and law manipulation? Ajimu has much stronger versions of those. BB has time travel? Ajimu has 3 types of tima manipulation. BB wants to use authority? Yeah good luck against Ajimu.

As for not touching tier 2. All Fiction alone on being able to erase multiple universes makes 2-C. Ajimu who doesn't even count AF as a threat, crosses dimensions at will and governs all of Magic? Yeah i wonder what tier she is.
 
@Fire
Luke z
Authority basically says that if you're from Earth then your powers are useless. All of creation can mean anything from 3-A to 1-A depending on the verse. The vagness of it is why Ajimu doesn't have a tier. Authority is a passive affect, BB doesn't have to "use" it.


Citation needed on that second paragraph because otherwise Medaka would be 2-C. Seriously, how have you not been banned yet?
 
Well TBH I feel like the word "concept" in MB is thrown around in a manner similar to Nasuverse.

I might be wrong though.
 
Reposting because it's so damn true

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The Wright Way said:
@Fire
Luke z
Authority basically says that if you're from Earth then your powers are useless. All of creation can mean anything from 3-A to 1-A depending on the verse. The vagness of it is why Ajimu doesn't have a tier. Authority is a passive affect, BB doesn't have to "use" it.


Citation needed on that second paragraph because otherwise Medaka would be 2-C. Seriously, how have you not been banned yet?
OK yeah Authority is that. Do you know what The Hero is though? The Hero is: If you're up against the main character u be getting stomped hard. It's passive plot directly from our lord "the author" and even Plot Manipulation wasn't an effective counter to it. She's powerless against Authority, but she's going to win, cus the main character can't lose, no matter the odds she will win (unless her opponent is on a whole other level like featherine for example).
 
Guess what?

Any opponent is an NLF when people, such as BB, casually stomp MB with effortless ease.

As such, it's an NLF and is completely. Moot.

If it wasn't an NLF, she wouldn't have gotten destroyed by Nihilus, BB, 1440, Kharn etc.
 
Gargoyle One said:
If Medaka's Erasure is conceptual I'm putting her against White Quee
What do ya mean "if"? Kumagawa has "conceptual manipulation" as a skill on his profile due to All Fiction.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Guess what?
Any opponent is an NLF when people, such as BB, casually stomp MB with effortless ease.

As such, it's an NLF and is completely. Moot.

If it wasn't an NLF, she wouldn't have gotten destroyed by Nihilus, BB, 1440, Kharn etc.
The Hero was off in every match besides with the gal from Re:Creators who had a similar ability (or so they said idk her).
 
Gargoyle One said:
No it was unrestricted against Nihilus
Yeah just checked part of the thread. It was bullshit at it's finest lol. Nihilus stomps ajimu? xD

Ok without derailing any more from the actual topic. Ajimu is basically a stronger version of BB, if The Hero was enough to make "BASE" Medaka (without any hax what so ever) stomp Ajimu whose powers u might wanna check, then Authority is not getting the upper hand here.
 
People keeping using The Hero in vsthreads despite the note about not using it and then they're surprised when shit happens.

Anyway, not gonna vote but I want to point a couple of things:

1. Medaka's minus abilities resist nullification (scaling from All Fiction, which is based on causality like BB's authority). 2. I already said that but STOP USING THE HERO PLEASE. It's under revision and it will likely get banned soon. 3. If we still have to use it anyway remember than The Hero > Ajimu's omnipresence, don't count on omnipresence too much. Again, it would be better not to use it at all...

Gonna unfollow immediately after this, arguing in Medaka matches when The Hero is on is a waste of time anyway.
 
Kami95 said:
People keeping using The Hero in vsthreads despite the note about not using it and then they're surprised when shit happens.
Anyway, not gonna vote but I want to point a couple of things:

1. Medaka's minus abilities resist nullification (scaling from All Fiction, which is based on causality like BB's authority). 2. I already said that but STOP USING THE HERO PLEASE. It's under revision and it will likely get banned soon. 3. If we still have to use it anyway remember than The Hero > Ajimu's omnipresence, don't count on omnipresence too much. Again, it would be better not to use it at all...

Gonna unfollow immediately after this, arguing in Medaka matches when The Hero is on is a waste of time anyway.
Can you point me to the revision thread? Because no ability is overpowered enough to warrant it being banned. Besides, The Hero is not overpowered as people make it sound. It's just passive plot maniuplation. Woopie.
 
The Hero is one of the most vague and NLF powers ever and really doesn't deserve the hype it gets.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Ok without derailing any more from the actual topic. Ajimu is basically a stronger version of BB, if The Hero was enough to make "BASE" Medaka (without any hax what so ever) stomp Ajimu whose powers u might wanna check, then Authority is not getting the upper hand here.
The Hero basically gives the enemy Plot-Induced-Stupidity. Which does nothing against passive hax. Authority power nulls before The Hero can do it's thing.
 
The Wright Way said:
Passive planetary mindhax curbs the entire verse.
Dat planetary sounds nice actually especially when ajimu has skills like "control infinity" "govern speed,strength,knowledge" "create a universe" "cross dimensions" "summon hell" "control black hole" "invalidate fate" "power over life and death" "if you are seen they die" "time travel" "manipulate history" "interfere with the narrative" (plot manipulation on ajimu's level was still stomped by The Hero) "control fate" . I srsly don't want to go on. All Fiction could erase multiple universes but accident, Bookmaker is stronger than that, The End has all of these (not accepted by the wiki and im not saying Medaka can use them here, just pointing out that The End is STRONG), and as for mental abilities, Ajimu has more different mental skills than the number of seconds Nihilus has lived.
 
The Wright Way said:
The Hero basically gives the enemy Plot-Induced-Stupidity. Which does nothing against passive hax. Authority power nulls before The Hero can do it's thing.
Authority won't be power nulling The Hero lol. The Hero is not a power, it's basically "the main character", not something you can null.
 
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