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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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So I guess some remaining stuff to get sorted out would include:
More Eternals profiles (though it seems like the scaling is already figured out at least)
Determining if She-Hulk should scale to Wong
Calcing the rock busting feat from Wakanda Forever now that it's on DIsney+
Calcing Star-Lord, Nebula and Yondu withstanding this explosion (though I think there's a decent amount of other GOTG stuff that probably should get sorted out at some point too, which is sure to increase once Vol 3. comes out)
Figuring out if this is usable for anything
And of course, calcing Arthur Harrow's pillar feat.
More Eternals profiles (though it seems like the scaling is already figured out at least)
Determining if She-Hulk should scale to Wong
Calcing the rock busting feat from Wakanda Forever now that it's on DIsney+
Calcing Star-Lord, Nebula and Yondu withstanding this explosion (though I think there's a decent amount of other GOTG stuff that probably should get sorted out at some point too, which is sure to increase once Vol 3. comes out)
Figuring out if this is usable for anything
And of course, calcing Arthur Harrow's pillar feat.
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Don't remember anything in the show that would warrant this. What was the proposed reasoning again?
Should be Black Hole Creation at the very worst
Also I really want Class P LS for Thor
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There’s also this calc. too, it’s not accepted yet but if it was how would we apply it?
Hela destroys Mjölnir
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All Post-Awakening Thor-tier characters and above would scale to it.There’s also this calc. too, it’s not accepted yet but if it was how would we apply it?
Hela destroys Mjölnir
Though an argument could be made that Pre-Awakening Thor-tiers downscale, since he somewhat fought a stronger Hela before fully awakening his powers
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Either that or Thor gets another Beginning of Ragnarok key
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Is that really a Durability feat though? Isn't that more like an Endurance or Stamina feat?
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Yeah that was around what I was thinking
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@2:22 & 2:33
Would those qualify for:
• Temperature Manipulation for giving Volstagg frostbite
• Limited Deconstruction for dismantling Loki's armor
Would those qualify for:
• Temperature Manipulation for giving Volstagg frostbite
• Limited Deconstruction for dismantling Loki's armor
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Wouldn't that just fall under Ice Manipulation?
Don't think so, but the scene is really dark so I'm not 100% certain
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Thought that Ice Manipulation was just creating or manipulating ice.
Looking at the Ice Manipulation page it might fall under this.
• Frostbite to freeze anything to atomic levels making it fragile. - for Loki's armor
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Btw, do I need to make a CRT to add Longevity to Frost Giants?
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It's both ice and cold, apparently
Makes sense to me
Something as simple as that really shouldn't, but idk
Not sure about Odin stuff since the fight was off-screen, but him taking a hit for Thor could be "At most 6-B"
Also because of this, lol
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I said it once and I'll say it again Laufey is literally more impressive than Surtur and always has been.
Surtur literally got destroyed by Odin with no aforementioned injuries or anything being dealt to Odin in their battle and his means of escape was completely unknown, we just know he was very near death.
Laufey took ******* Prime Odin's eye in their fight. Like the frost Giants are kinda like that
Also the only reason surtur even got to destroy Asgard is because he was fighting severely weakened individuals i.e a heavily weakened Hela who would've otherwise no diffed him
nah but fr its kinda crazy how that worked out like really odin had more difficulty with frost giants than Surtur
Surtur literally got destroyed by Odin with no aforementioned injuries or anything being dealt to Odin in their battle and his means of escape was completely unknown, we just know he was very near death.
Laufey took ******* Prime Odin's eye in their fight. Like the frost Giants are kinda like that
nah but fr its kinda crazy how that worked out like really odin had more difficulty with frost giants than Surtur
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Actually, Laufey never got hit by Mjolnir, that was another Frost Giant. Laufey was on his throne the whole time.
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"A secret brew Odin taught me as a thank you after we helped defeat Laufey's army in Tønsberg." ―Gilgamesh
"Speaking of Odin, Thor used to follow me around when he was a little kid. Now, he's a famous Avenger, and won't return my calls." —Kingo
So Eternals were present, or at least Gilgamesh was, during the battle of Tønsberg, and Kingo may or may not be familiar with Thor.
"Speaking of Odin, Thor used to follow me around when he was a little kid. Now, he's a famous Avenger, and won't return my calls." —Kingo
So Eternals were present, or at least Gilgamesh was, during the battle of Tønsberg, and Kingo may or may not be familiar with Thor.
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Oh, and apparently Odin lost his eye from a sneak attack by Laufey @1:28, at least that's what the MCU Wiki says.
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If the Casket of Ancient Winters was able to freeze the energies being channeled through the Bifrost observatory, would that be High 6-A scaling for the Casket, or would that just be scaling an unquantifiable portion of the energy?
Essentially that Wong specifically needed She-Hulk's help to get rid of the demons in episode 4. Not entirely sure if that's enough to justify scaling or not though.
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She Hulk should remain in her 9-A till further feats
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I'm not sure, it looks like Loki just locked Gungnir and the energies in place since the energies are still flowing freely but just directed to specific points in the observatory because of the ice.
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If the energy channelled through the Bifrost is High 6-A and Thor was able to destroy a portion of the Rainbow Bridge, which is made out of Bifrost, would that make him High 6-A? I'm not too sure if that logic makes sense.
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Didn't Hulk destroy part of it too?
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I know Fenrir cracked it just by putting one of their paws on it but I'm too sure about Hulk.
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I think the both destroyed someone when they fell off the bridge
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Gamora survives this explosion
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Oh yeah, that and this explosion feat are probably worth calcing too.
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Looking at the scene, it honestly seems more like a case of there being a whole lot of demons and Wong needs a bit of help to get them all out of the room because of their sheer numbers. Doesn't seem like valid AP scaling to me
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